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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:06 PM
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You know how, in the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy kills the Witch of the West with a bucket of water?
That's a pretty lame ass plot twist. What kind of decent villain can she be if you can kill her just by getting her wet? It's really a dramatic let down after the Scarecrow & company go through all that business to sneak into her castle and rescue Dorothy.

I want my money back.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:26 PM
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1. Well, the crap that Oz gave as a reward was pretty lame too.
Here....have this ugly ass watch shaped like a heart.

Here....have this tacky medal.

Here....have this sheet of paper that is worth less than a degree from the University of Phoenix.


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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:57 PM
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2. Well, they didn't have Ambien in those days.
Dreams got a lot better in the age of Big Pharma.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:08 PM
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3. Maybe it wasn't water.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:08 PM
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4. The book was much better.
Way more subversive and twisted. The line in the movie.... "Auntie Em must of stopped even wondering what happened to me now?" Are you kidding?...this movie takes place over like a day and a half... You have suck relatives if they stop thinking about a lost child after a day and a half.

In the book I think the time period is more like six years or something. She was imprisoned by the witch a long ass time. I remember that much,

and in one of the later OZ books there's these villains that rip off their own heads and throw them at you.

Awe. Some.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:05 AM
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9. ... also, of course, nobody rescues her from the witch.
She rescues herself (and the lion) by melting the witch. Takes the golden cap (which controls the winged monkeys), and then goes and rescues the scarecrow and the tin woodman from their predicaments.

I think you may be mistaken about the time period though. it was probably closer to six months.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:46 PM
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5. Oz as allegory.
L. Frank Baum wrote Oz as an allegory about conditions in America at the turn of the century, conditions very similar to those of the 1930s.

A terrible drought had hit the farmers (the Scarecrow), a depression affected the factory workers (the Tin Man) and he took a swipe at the "do-nothing" Congress and William Jennings Bryan (The Cowardly Lion) and President McKinley (The Wizard).

Nothing stopped the drought (the Wicked Witch) until the rains came (water).
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 12:46 AM
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7. Baum always denied that Oz was an allegory.
I'm not sure I believe him, but according to Baum, Oz was only juvenile literature--an attempt at American-centric folklore--and any reading of political symbolism in there is projection.
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zen_bohemian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:54 PM
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6. I was scared to death of the tornado, and I wanted a flying monkey for myself
The witch really didn't scare me at all, but that tornado did, go figure. The lion kinda creeped me out.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:49 AM
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12. I caught a small part of the movie last night
When they meet the lion. All I could think of was -- why does kind of bark like a dog? He's a lion, fer crying out loud. Then again, it's not like the rest of it is logical.
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Rosie1223 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:37 AM
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8. Geez, how about a *Spoiler* alert!!
Way to ruin the ending. Next you'll be telling me Dorothy dreamed the whole thing...
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:17 AM
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11. Ha!
Nice!

:thumbsup: :hi:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:11 AM
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10. Same with lord of the flies
Big climax then "Oh, the adults are here!"
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 12:39 PM
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13. what I always thought when I was a kid was
that if all it took to kill the witch was a bucket of water then she must never have taken a bath. Ick what a stinker.
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kimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 02:32 PM
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14. There was a funny article on "Cracked.com" yesterday
about how Glinda the Good Witch was the real villain of that movie. How she sent Dorothy off to the Emerald City for no good reason, after robbing a corpse of it's shoes and then celebrating the death with a song-and-dance fest, thus depriving the poor survivor (Wicked Witch of the West) of a proper bereavement. Evil! :evilgrin:

I don't think I'll ever watch that movie the same way again.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:19 PM
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15. Exactly, the "Good Witch" knew all along how Dorothy
could get back to Kansas. She deliberately withheld vital information. Where was Wikileaks when it was truly needed?
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