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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:40 PM
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Why does fucking FLORIDA have TWO NHL Franchises
Yet Wisconsin has none?

This does not make sense to me.

Personally, if I was NHL commisoner, all teams south of the Mason-Dixon Line (With the exception of the LA Kings) would either be moved to more appropriate climes or be disbanded.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:42 PM
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1. Because it has enough fucking fans to support two NHL teams
It's not like they play the game outdoors.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:54 PM
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16. Florida gets a lot of vacationers from Canada in winter
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:54 PM by Art_from_Ark
I wouldn't be surprised if Canadians made up a large proportion of "Florida" hockey fans
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:43 PM
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2. Well, first the NHL allowed Mr. Huizenga to buy the Panthers.
But then both the state of Florida and the NHL insisted Florida have a team to NOT be ashamed of, and we were granted the Tampa Bay Lightning.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 07:25 PM
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14. lol
dude you crack me up
where are you on the limp dick of america?
i am over where they used to shoot rockets off in the old days
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:47 PM
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3. Because nobody in Wisconsin wants to fork over the cash
to start an expansion team or buy a franchise, and somebody in Florida DID?

:shrug:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:49 PM
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4. I've always thought the southern shift in the NHL was very odd, although
completely rational in the economic sense. However, for the honor of the game, perhaps all ownership-change and franchise requests should be weighted by the mean winter temperature of the destination city, or the per capita purchase of ice augers, or some other wintery measure...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 07:15 PM
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13. Can't fight market forces. Besides, where do you think all those retired Wisconsinites move to?
Hint: it ain't Montreal.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 07:26 PM
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15. look at the northern shift of NASCAR
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 07:27 PM by realisticphish
as much as people talk about it like its a southern thing, you have tracks in Delaware, New Hampshire, California, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, even freaking Quebec if you count Nationwide series.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:11 PM
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5. To quote Lewis Black (after Florida won the Stanley Cup) :
"Here's how lame hockey is: The country that invented it got beat by the country that doesn't care about it, by a team from a state that HAS NO NATURAL ICE!!!"
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 10:13 PM
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6. Florida has only been to the Cup finals. You must mean T*mp* B*y.
:grr: :banghead:
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 09:09 AM
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7. Gary Betteman needs to go.
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 09:10 AM by Tripper11
Simple as that. That fuckwad has destroyed the game. I understand how it needed to move forward, but he's taken it way too far. There are way too many teams.
Dump Betteman, get a proper hockey person in there and sort it out.

edited for spelling...
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 09:34 AM
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8. Yes, clearly our FOUR FEET OF SNOW in DC disqualifies us
from having the appropriate Hockey weather here in the deep south of Maryland. Thats kinda an idiotic thing to say if you are basing it on winters. Plenty of stuff below the Mason-Dixon line is cold. I also think Alex Ovechkin might object to having his team yanked.
Should we now take away the Minnesota Twins because they play outdoors in a place thats not always baseball weather?
This is a stupid post. Climate control is easy in arenas. And some places in the North can be quite warm during hockey season as well.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 10:05 AM
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9. 4th largest state in the union.
By population anyway. You go where the money is.

Florida 18.5 million
Canada 33 million
Wisconsin 5.6 million
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 10:41 AM
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10. Good question, but keep in mind hockey happy Minnesota was without a franchise for almost a decade
and Minneapolis St. Paul is a bigger metro area than Milwaukee.

Both Tampa Bay and Florida have mediocre home attendance at best, and teams like Phoenix, Atlanta and Nashville have been mentioned in relocation rumors, so maybe a franchise would become available. Wisconsin could certainly support a team, but so could Quebec, Winnipeg and maybe even Hartford and Seattle.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:38 AM
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11. Would San Jose be considered "south of the Mason-Dixon line"?
The Sharks actually have pretty decent fan support hereabouts, as evidenced by the ubiquity of these:

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:02 PM
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12. the state is flooded with retirees from up north
I was in Daytona on business a few years back and could not believe the sheer number of Jersey/Brooklynese/Boston accents I heard from the locals...
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