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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:11 PM
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Well, I really showed my ass this time.
Been dating my DREAM guy for 4 months. It has been heaven. He has been kind, generous, considerate, affectionate, and we have great chemistry in every way. We're both in our 40's and of course I'm thinking he might be the one. We are in a committed relationship.

In the past he's made references to wanting to settle down (not with me, but...) and has talked about vacations we might take a year down the road, etc. He has always talked in future tense with me, as if he's considering me a part of his future.

Well, lately he's been distant, and I stupidly had "the talk". I just said (unemotionally) that since we'd never discussed our feelings before, I was wondering where things stand.

He said he just really enjoys my company, doesn't know yet where he sees things heading, and wants to take it "slow". :( He said he was really burned by his last girlfriend and still doesn't feel he can put his heart on the line.

What should I do? I am completely broken hearted.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:29 PM
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1. I'm sorry. It appears that the two of you have different goals for your relationship.
He wants to take it slow, and I submit you've no right to push it... and that would be unwise anyway. If you want, explore other relationships. If you decide to wait him out, you may wait forever. So it boils down to the question: are you happy with things as they are? If so, relax and enjoy yourself in the now, as opposed to worrying about the future. If you're not, it's time to consider moving on.

Good luck.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I am happy with things as they are--for now.
I just don't want to wait forever.

I'm hoping this isn't his round-about way of telling me I'm not "the one". :(
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. I understand why you wouldn't want to wait forever
So, why not give the relationship some kind of deadline? After all, you've only been dating for four months. Only you can decide how long you want to wait.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. I think I might give it till six months.
In the meantime, I really don't know how I'll stay happy. I thought he was in love with me, and he made it clear he isn't, at least yet.

In the meantime, I'm in love and so sad. I don't know how I'll see this through.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:50 PM
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5. I'm sorry you're going through this
Unrequited love really, really sucks. Just hang in there and take things one day at a time. Try to do things with your friends and family to remind yourself that your life is more than just this relationship and your happiness it not dependent on other people.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Yep.
I just wonder though: If he hasn't developed feelings after 4 months, what are the chances he ever will?

Love sucks.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. I really don't know
Some people know right away and for others it takes longer. I suppose his actions over the next few weeks will tell you all you need to know.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:51 AM
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8. I'M sorry... but every once in a while I see a kind of groupthink that makes ME think...
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.WHAT THE HELL'S THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!?!?!?!?
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"He has been kind, generous, considerate, affectionate,
and we have great chemistry in every way."
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"he's made references to wanting to settle down"
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"He has always talked in future tense with me,
as if he's considering me a part of his future."
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"he just really enjoys my company"
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"doesn't know yet where he sees things heading"
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"wants to take it "slow"."
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"really burned by his last girlfriend"
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"still doesn't feel he can put his heart on the line."
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You're in your 40's. If 4 months... 6 months... even one
year is AN ETERNITY at that older but hopefully WISER
age when it comes to truly COMMITTING to a (again,
hopefully) life partner... you may want to do a little
reality check into whether you're looking for Mr Right
(for life), or Mr Right RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
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NONE of the answers you relayed were just plain negative.
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"doesn't know YET"
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"take it SLOW"
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"really BURNED"
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"STILL doesn't feel"
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ALL of those responses indicate that he's considering
the future, too.
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He sounds like a great guy.
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He sounds like what you want. He REALLY sounds like what you want.
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Four months is an eternity to a highschooler... to a naive young
person who is all starry-eyed and no pragmatism.
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I WISH that would work much more often, but it just doesn't.
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If you can NOT give this GREAT guy the time he needs... maybe
you SHOULD move along.
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Maybe you don't deserve HIM.
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I wish you and him all the happiness in the world and a long life
together.
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Give it (and him) time.
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And I don't think you showed your ass with "the talk".
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I think it was probably good in the long run -- there's a good chance
it'll nudge him into thinking about it more than he probably already was.
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And LITERALLY showing your ass couldn't hoit!!!
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Especially coupled with a li'l bump-and-grind.
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:evilgrin:
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:47 AM
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10. Well, in the name of speed I left out a few details.
There are some negatives:

1. He has never declared any feelings for me, though he compliments me a lot.
2. He treats sex as sex--not as affection but more like recreation. After sex, he just withdraws.
3. He never calls me--just a text here and there until we see each other.
4. During "the talk" he would not say that he cares for me, or anything deep at all. He said he just enjoys my company and thinks a lot of me and wants to see how things go, but he's not wanting a "heavy, serious" relationship.
5. He said he just doesn't know if I'm the right person yet or not. But, he did say he didn't want to date around.

So I don't know if those are signs that he's thinking it's not me. He has been distant just the past few weeks and I don't know why. I worry that maybe he's decided I'm not the one, and our talk was his way of cluing me in gently. I'm trying to blend it in with all the positives and see where I should go from here.

I'm just feeling so sad and confused...
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Those are some pretty important details
I'd suggest (no snark intended) that you go back and read both your OP but also this second list. And you'll have your answer.

So ask yourself this: Are you really in love with him (even when he doesn't act like a dedicated BF--see your list above) or are you choosing to ignore his bad traits and convince yourself you're in love with him? Do his good traits really outweigh his bad traits? Really?

Only you can answer those questions. But IMO, life's too short to wait around for someone who either doesn't know what he wants or knows what he wants and it isn't what you want and he doesn't have the guts to be more frank.

While you work it out, here's somma dis to keep you buoyed: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. BTW, I'm also wondering if any men have any input on this.
Oh, and he hasn't called me since the talk and I'm kinda freaking out.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Bump for the afternoon crowd....
I could really use some advice... :(
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Here's this man's perspective ...
Give him some time and don't pressure him. You say you are both in your 40's, well me too. It looks like I'm going to be single again myself, and if I ever start dating, I know I will want to take things slow. I know I will be distant and emotionally unavailable sometimes. And the more I might like a woman, the more scared I will be.

Has he been married before? Has he ever had his heart really broken and shattered into a million pieces? Some guys don't just bounce back from something like that. I know I won't. I will be scarred. (I would say that I'm already scarred, but it's more of an open wound right now)

Good luck, and if he's really that great a guy, then be patient with him.

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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. Thank you.
Edited on Wed May-19-10 10:40 PM by amitten
Yes, he's been married before but divorced a long time, and it's not the divorce that hurt him so.

He (about a year ago) lost the love of his life after dating 1 1/2 years, and it totally shattered him.

I have been with him 4 months and we have had a wonderful time. I just assumed he has feelings for me, and he has now made it clear that he doesn't consider our relationship "serious", although we are monagamous and he doesn't want to date others.

Please read all my previous posts to get a better perspective, and I would love to hear your feedback.

I love him and he doesn't love me. After 4 months, I don't know if that is normal or how long I should wait.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. Also, I forgot to say that I am sorry for your pain.
Whoever hurt you lost a good thing, I'm sure. :)
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #15
43. Notice this guy's handle is "dawg"? No offense, but RUN
taking a stand might make you hot to this guy, but if not, the only thing you'll want with The One, is more time.

This shouldn't be that hard on you. Since it is, since the sex seems empty and you deserve, "Holy Fuck that was the best orgasm of my life, now hold me until I fall asleep" RUN THE FUCK AWAY.

NOW!!! :)
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. Oh, and I sorry for dawg's pain too. seriously. nt
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #43
47. I'm not *that* kind of dawg ...
Just a sweet 'lil puppy dawg from Georgia. :)
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #47
53. Puppies grow up to be DAWG's, and you know it. LOL
and those men from Georgia can charm the panties from a Nun, and you know THAT too :P
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #43
49. He does hold me afterwards.
He just isn't lovey-dovey affectionate. And the sex is good.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. What's his history? How long & how long ago did he date this girl who hurt him.
Shit, he sounds like me on a bad day.

A serious relationship doesn't have to be heavy. I'd like to think that I wouldn't be so crass & self absorbed that I could tell a girl to her face "I don't know if you're the right one for me." Especially if she actually WAS the right one for me the night before. That seems really shallow & selfish.

He sounds like he needs an iron skillet across the noggin. I take back all my excellent advice from down thread. Everyone is entitled to go through a patch of the blahs now and then. But having a patch of moodiness is not an excuse for treating one's significant other like a social & sexual convenience. If he's as great a guy as you say in the OP, you need to just tell him straight up "You're not treating me very nice right now. I deserve better."

You can't demand an answer to his committing right away--commitment takes time. But you can and should demand less bullshitty put-it-offs than "I don't know if you're the right person yet." Yet?! Sheesh, that sounds like you're a performing circus monkey! Don't let any guy tell you that.

But what ever you do, do not force him to talk. Talking out feelings does not solve anything for men. It's far more likely to turn into him thinking he's being harped at, almost regardless of what you say. Men need parameters, guidelines, goals, and/or deadlines. Structure makes a relationship work. As LBJ once said, there comes a time when you have to shit or get off the pot.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. He was really hurt, about a year ago. We've been together
four months.

He was with a girl very seriously (wanted to marry) for a year and a half, and apparently she broke his heart just waaaaaaaaay beyond belief.

But if a guy says he's not sure I'm the one, I guess I should take him at his word. I just don't know how long I can hang on for him to come around. I am beyond miserable right now.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. This is a secret, so please don't tell anyone, but...
Edited on Thu May-20-10 08:48 AM by Bucky
I (clandestinely) believe in love. It's a good thing and it's worth waiting for. But that said, your needs are not of a lesser value than his. He needs to shit or get off the pot. Um, not that you're the toilet in this analogy... But it just strikes me as ungallant for him to string you along. I've done that to girls in the past and I look back on that and realize I was being a selfish jackass for doing so. I don't impugn his motivations here; he might just be genuinely too scared to make a commitment. But then again, I think I was jack ass in response to being hurt myself. Karma may be a bitch, but that's no excuse for me acting like a son of a bitch.

If you have made it clear to him that you're looking for a long term commitment, then in the short term he owes you, and you deserve, a yea or nay. In my opinion, of course.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #10
40. feel sad, and then STOP WASTING YOUR TIME... if he is distant, it is most likely because he has
already looking for, or already found someone else.

Go get the book, "He's just not that into you" and read it. When you're the one, it'll happen right away.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #40
42. I offered that we could maybe take a break and date others.
He said no, he did not feel the need to do that. So I gave the option and he refused--he's a very up-front guy and I think if he wanted to date around he would just say so.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #42
46. I think you should tell him that since you guys don't have the same outlook, maybe it is necessary
for YOU to start dating other people. Tell him you're looking for fireworks, and he seems afraid of the flame.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Also....
After the talk he kind of hugged me in a consoling sort of way. He saw I was sad and it's like he felt sorry for me.

And, he hasn't contacted me since, a day later...
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. He obviously cares about you.
He just isn't ready to commit.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #16
50. the longer he doesn't call
the more I want to back away from this comment of mine.
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velvet Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:17 AM
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9. What should you do? Live in the present
Four months is not a relationship, it's barely an introduction. Forget setting deadlines, forget the concept of "the one", those are for soapie scripts, points for plots to turn on - real life has no plot. Forget where you might holiday together in a year's time, forget wondering where things are heading. Focus on getting to know each other, because you've hardly started, and on what you're doing together right now, not what you might be to each other in future. Let go of the fairy-tale role-play, as MFM so wisely advises, and let each of you be who you actually are. Live in the present. It's not easy, but it's the only place love will bloom.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 04:18 PM
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17. He sounds gunshy. You can't talk him through that... he has to work it out on his own.
But here's how to manipulate him. 1st, tell him, "you sound gun shy to me." Then suggest a fun getaway activity. Be easy going and relaxed the whole time. At some point during the drive home from the fun getaway, look over at him and say, "Y'know, I'm really glad we did this."

One week later make meatloaf and invite him over. At this point, he will be owned.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Plan B
I can't actually post Plan B on the internet. But if you have a sound proof basement, hand cuffs, and a bottle of chloroform, you can probably figure the rest out.

PM me if you need referrals for a good criminal lawyer...
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 04:43 PM
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20. When I told my "friend" that I loved her, she said she wasn't ready for a relationship.
I took it like a man.

She said, "I guess our friendship is over then."

I said, "Not at all. I just wanted you to know about it, because I value our friendship a great deal, never want to lose it and I put it above my personal concerns and ego and desire."

We've been lovers now for several decades, and married longer than I care to tell.

Remain calm. Be even. Be fair. Be honest. Be real. Be patient. Works every time and time makes everything that works.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Please also read post #10. It gives more perspective than the
OP. Plus, it's now been 2 days since our talk and he still hasn't contacted me. We used to text every day.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. Listen to your gut.
Maybe it's time to move on?

Relationships shouldn't be so hard and gut-wrenching. You deserve a guy who is way "into you" without reservation.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. After reading #10, speaking as a male,

I'd say you are correct that he's not seeing you as something more than what you two have together now.



otoh, I don't think you "showed your ass", you just wanted to know and you wanted to be able to show your feelings. You managed to do both things. I'm sorry it is making you feel hurt, but at least now you know and you can reassess your position.

I wish you peace and happiness whatever you do.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. What confuses the issue is this:
Edited on Wed May-19-10 11:57 PM by amitten
He has made references, about 10, to marriage and/or long-term stuff over the 4 months. Nothing direct, just hinting at things or talking in future tense. (He never actually said he wanted to marry me, for instance--but sometimes alluded to the idea.)

I guess it was just a smokescreen.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:51 AM
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29. Let me just express my disappointment that in this thread you didn't *literally* show your ass.
It's really the reason I clicked on the thread to begin with.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. I know.
:) And I appreciate your advice. But don't you think 4 months is too soon to ask for a yay or nay on a future together? We already have committment in that we don't date other people.
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burrfoot Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. FWIW, I think you should
give this a little time before making a decision. Obviously you're upset about the current state of things, and you have a right to be, but we rarely make good decisions when we're upset. At least I know that I don't :evilgrin:

I can't read the guy's mind, of course, but I can tell you that sometimes "the talk" is just difficult, even if you do have genuine feelings for someone. It sounds me to me like he's not ready YET. At four months, I think that's legitimate. Obviously it's completely up to you whether you're willing to wait and see if something more comes of it- he certainly can't expect you to stay around if he's not ever going to give you a more solid commitment, but if he's really a great guy I think you should give him a chance.

And don't fret too much about the not texting you thing. It may just be that he doesn't know quite what to say- he's probably expecting that you want an answer to "the talk" before you guys continue anything, and if he doesn't know what to tell you he may not know if it's ok to say anything at all.

My advice, as a guy, would be to call or text or whatever and say something like: hey, let's hang out this weekend. I like what we've got and I want to see where it goes.

Then it's up to him- he knows it's ok to continue things.

If he doesn't reply, or doesn't act on it, then you've got your answer. And if it goes a few more months, and you bring it up again, and he can't tell you that at least things are moving forward, then you've got your answer.

Don't wait for ages, but don't drop him just because he's not ready at the same time you are.

Hang in there. It'll come or it won't. The right guy is never the one that you don't end up with, as stupid as that sounds ;)
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. Thanks.
Did you read all my posts, including #10? Apparently that gives better perspective. Can you read it and tell me if your advice is still the same?

And are you thinking he has not just dropped me by not texting? I made it clear we were done with "the talk". But he has not texted and I am REALLY scared that he has just dropped me and doesn't even have the decency to tell me. I can't imaging that after all our time together though, and we have been close in my opinion. :(
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burrfoot Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #33
58. I did read 10, and I read
what's been posted since. I still say shoot him a text and say hey, do you want to get together this weekend? If he doesn't want to, or doesn't respond, then move on. I know that's not easy when you think that someone cared about you, but do your best.

If he responds, I think your plan of giving it two more months is perfect. There's no sense in you waiting around for him and wasting time- but two more months isn't necessarily a waste. Nothing about him screams "run away" to me- maybe nothing will come of this, but if you didn't give it a final shot wouldn't you always wonder?

Again- don't wait by the phone if he doesn't respond; but if you get a little pro-active and put the ball in his court then you know you've done all you can.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. Yes, four months is too soon.
But love is real time warpy. Who knows how long is the right amount of time.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #32
34. I am just freaking today. Totally upset.
This is the third day he hasn't contacted me. I'm starting to think he is dumping me and not even telling me! Jesus, could somone be that cold...?!
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. Don't call him.
If he doesn't want to lose you, he will pursue you (at least a little).
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:36 AM
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38. Oh man, get out of the house! Go do something fun. Go get lost in a movie. <== Awesome Advice!
Edited on Thu May-20-10 09:38 AM by Bucky
Go paintballing or bowling. Call up a girl friend and go do something strenuously enjoyable like bike riding or spitting off a highway overpass.

If you coup yourself up and get fretful like this, three days of worry is like walking around with a mouth full of hydrogen peroxide. Get out and go do some shit. Plan something fun for the weekend without men around. You need and deserve an endorphin infusion.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:29 AM
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35. OK, I'm probably the last girl to give advice considering the story I could tell, but...
...if you're both in your 40s are you looking to have kids or have someone to spend your time with in a committed way?

If he still wants to play the field then let him or don't.

If he wants someone exclusive and he wants you, well, there you are.

If you already have his exclusive affections but you feel his output is not in sink with what you're looking for then you need to decide if YOU want someone else.

Now back to my life which looks like a bowl of spaghetti after a string of firecrackers.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:36 AM
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37. We both stated up front that we're looking for committment.
And we are committed, and he said during the talk that he doesn't want to date around.

So, there it is. He just made it clear, though, that he doesn't want anything deeper right now.

Plus, the bastard hasn't called me since (3 days!) and of course I'm sitting here feeling like a total chump.

Thanks for your advice.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:57 AM
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48. Don't allow ANY action that he makes have any affect on you...YOU are the master of your own fate...
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

Don't call. Don't text. Don't 'drop by'. Just move on, and if he calls, he calls. I'd start with getting some strange.

If he doesn't expect you to step out, he should be taking better care of it
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:34 AM
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55. I'm sorry your life looks like spaghetti...
Hope things start looking up for you soon.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:50 AM
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57. Thanks...it's a lot better now but th stories I could tell
girl meets boy

girl and boy go from casual to likey-likey

boy has problems not his fault

girl has meltdown

girl and boy split

girl is miserable

boy finds another

boy becomes miserable

boy dumps other

girl and boy maybe reconcile????



That's where I'm at today.

I'm dizzy from it honestly.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 11:45 AM
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59. Oh God, I'm so sorry. Feel better soon! n/t
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 12:02 PM
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60. I think it is better...ty
We're having quiet time together now.

Last night we just hung out and watched a movie.

Keep the faith. If my life can get better anybody's can.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:39 AM
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39. walk away NOW!!! No... RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!
Tell him you are not very good at playing the rebound girl, and since you're not getting any younger, you find it a better expenditure of your time to find the one who *IS* the one and who WANTS TO BE the one.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:42 AM
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41. I don't think I am *just* a rebound girl.
I can tell he cares about me. How much, who knows.

Also, that girl broke up with him about a year ago. So, he is ready to date, but maybe just still too afraid to be all out there. Or maybe I just am not the one.

At any rate, I've decided to give it two more months and no more. I figure 6 months is not too big a waste of time, and the results might be worth it. We'll see.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:49 AM
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45. even if you're not *just* a rebound girl, the only thing you'll want with The One
when you finally find The One, is more time. You will look back at the cretin and think ,"God, I almost gave myself to someone who withdraws after sex"

You deserve peace of mind and happiness. This is neither.

And I am so sorry, because I've been there. :hug:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:58 AM
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51. um you are sitting around waiting for 3 days to hear from somebody?
I couldn't do that. No patience. I would be either getting on with my life or asking WTF? (in a polite way, of course)

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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:06 AM
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52. I am afraid if I text, he'll just feel I'm being pushy or clingy.
I really laid my heart on the line the other day.

Everyone tells me he's just taking time to think things over, and I should wait for him to contact me.

However, I'm starting to wonder if he will. But we didn't break up, and I can't imagine a grown man after 4 months with a woman would just never call again after a sensitive talk.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:16 AM
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54. I actually think it is odd you only text.
I mean maybe I am old fashioned, but talking on the phone is pretty normal for two people who care about each other and are in a committed relationship.

Also if you are as close with him as it seems after 4 months, why aren't you just calling him? Like hey, how are ya kind of thing. Do you drop by each other's houses or is it always planned?

Something seems off in this picture, just not sure what it is. I hate that you're hurting, it seems love is never easy.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:41 AM
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56. Well, there have been phone conversations but only rarely.
He's not a "phone" guy (that's becoming more and more common, unfortunately).

We don't do drop-bys. However, I have never had I guy I do that with.

I don't think he is seeing anyone else. He's the type that would just break it off. We made it clear up front that if either of us found another, we would just break up, and not carry on in secret. I believe he is of that character.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 12:15 PM
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61. three days?
if he hasn't contacted you in three days, my guess is he's not in to you. Go out with some friends, clear your head and have a good time. Stop sitting at home and being miserable because some dick doesn't have the nuts to be honest with you.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 12:18 PM
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62. Well, I think the talk scared him or shocked him.
And I think he is mulling things over.

We did not break up the other night. Surely he is not dumping me after 4 months by just not calling ever again...?
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 12:22 PM
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63. Also,
I did give him an "out" during the talk asking if he wanted to ease up and maybe date other people. He said no, he felt no need.

I would think that if he just wasn't into me, he would agree to dating around.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 12:25 PM
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64. yeah, I gotta agree with this
And at least get out for a bit and try to cheer yourself up.:hug:
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 01:02 PM
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65. I will contact him.
The suspense is putting me in too much pain.

If he has dumped me and just not told me so, at least I'll know sooner than later.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:02 PM
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67. Good idea.
I hope things are ok...

Please keep us posted and remember you are not the only one with a broken heart on DU babe! There are legions of us, lol.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:08 PM
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69. I did it.
I wrote him and he wrote back and we went back and forth with casual banter.

We did not make any plans to meet soon, but I am sure he will probably extend an invite at some point. But I will not--I've done as much as I'm willing to do.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:34 PM
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71. Well good for you.
Now get yourself up and do something fun.

And know it is not the end of the world no matter what happens.

I'm older than you (not that much lol) and lately with a relationship drama that I've been having, having that age experience has kept me sane...knowing that no matter how deep the pain - I can survive it. I have actually been grateful to be the age I am.

And more importantly, that if it is meant to be, it will be. I really believe that.

Meantime, hang on tight and take care of yourself.:pals:
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:22 PM
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74. But you have to be you
And if who you are is someone who is agonizing over it and feels a need to text, then do it.

You have to live. If your needs cannot be met without it pushing him away, best to know that now, rather than finding it out after a break and 4 more months to get connected.

And since there has been no contact, you dont know what he is thinking. If I were the guy on the other end, and it were a few years ago, I would be worried that I had horribly offended you by not knowing my own heart just yet. I would not want to send any mixed signals, and I would be afraid to contact you.

Be you and the rest will sort itself as it must be.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 01:27 PM
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66. How does he talk about his prior relationship?
Does he present himself as the victim of an uncaring or malicious ex-girlfriend? Does he describe her as irrational, emotionally absent, manipulative, critical, or having "issues"?

Or does he talk about her with a modicum of civility/respect, admitting he was hurt, he didn't understand, but he can respect her decision?

Does he talk about his role in the problems that existed in the relationship?

You've been getting clues here from some people to run from this relationship, and I also think that you should. Sex should not be emotionally empty, mechanical.

Google "narcissistic spouse," or "narcissistic partner," and see if any of it fits. If it does, just end the relationship, and detach yourself from the fantasy he encouraged you to believe.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:07 PM
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68. He talks about his ex in glowing terms.
She was the love of his life. He admits that they both contributed equally, for better and worse, to the problems that ended the relationship.

He talks respectfully about her, the few tines she's come up.

And our sex is not "mechanical"--he looks into my eyes the entire time and is concerned with my pleasure. He is just not lovey-dovey or affectionate about it--it's more "sexual" than "loving", which does sadden me. I am hoping one day it will change. If not, I know to move on.

He doesn't fit the narcissist profile I read, but thanks for sharing.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:15 PM
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70. I'm glad to hear it. I hope you have an ending (or future) that you're happy with.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:34 PM
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72. Just enjoy it
and if something happens, it does, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. Can't live in the future (or in the past). Can only live in the present. Enjoy it.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 05:48 PM
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73. how do you know it isn't just booty he's after?
Do you share any common interests? Have you met his family? Has he met yours?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:34 PM
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75. ...








Translation:

Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:46 PM
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76. So sorry. That would really hurt. Have a good cry and clear your head. Hugs!
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:20 PM
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77. Heartbreak is hard to go through alone.
Keep in touch with us everyday. Remember to use the word "heartbreak", because we all know about short memories and there are so many of us. But please don't give in to loneliness. Even if you have to write to us, it's better than what you'd find down the road with this guy. We care; write, write, write! :grouphug:
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