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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:18 PM
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I am still sick and a very nice person.
I hate my lungs and want my bronchitis to go away! A little gift left over from my flu/ H1N1/ cold/ upper respiratory virus going around. The docs didn't want me to come in and get everyone else sick. It is viral, at least for now, so antibiotics will do nothing. I just use my inhaler, take my robo and rest......and my Vick's thingy. My family is very grateful for my self quarantine, so far nobody else has gotten sick. Just whining. How is everyone else on DU doing this cold/ flu/ hysteria season?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:22 PM
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1. I am starting to get my sinus/allergy thing. ugh. Did you change your
avatar?
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:24 PM
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2. Oh.....I hope it passes quickly
don't want to be debbie downer but that is how my illness started.

I changed it a long time ago to that. Way to pay attention! hehe
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:35 PM
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7. silly me. You usually post a pic, too and that is where my eye tends
to go. without the pic, the avatar really stands out.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:25 PM
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3. I'm doing well so far (knock on wood). I got my H1N1 shot, but they are out of seasonal vaccine
I hope you feel better. Did the doctor prescribe any antivirals for your possible flu?
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:28 PM
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5. nope, they didn't want to waste it until I was REALLY sick
There are no vaccines available to me right now, even with my asthma status. Shortage in the state.

And thanks for the well wishes. Stay healthy.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:39 PM
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8. They should have at least given you antivirals, at least that's the CDC's latest
this came out just this week

This is an official
CDC Health Advisory

Distributed via Health Alert Network
October 19, 2009, 13:51 EDT (01:51 PM EDT)
CDCHAN-00299-09-10-19-ADV-N

Recommendations for Early Empiric Antiviral Treatment in Persons with Suspected Influenza who are at Increased Risk of Developing Severe Disease

Summary Recommendations: When treatment of influenza is indicated in a patient with suspected influenza, health care providers should initiate empiric antiviral treatment as soon as possible. Waiting for laboratory confirmation of influenza to begin treatment with antiviral drugs is not necessary. Patients with a negative rapid influenza diagnostic test should be considered for treatment if clinically indicated because a negative rapid influenza test result does not rule out influenza virus infection. The sensitivity of rapid influenza diagnostic tests for 2009 H1N1 virus can range from 10% to 70%, indicating that false negative results occur frequently.
Situation
The 2009 pandemic H1N1 influenza virus continues to be the dominant influenza virus in circulation in the U.S. The benefit of antiviral treatment is greatest when it is initiated as early as possible in the clinical course. Several recent reports have indicated two problems related to antiviral treatment: (1) some patients with suspected influenza who are at higher risk of developing severe complications, including hospitalized patients, were not treated at all with antiviral medications because of a negative rapid influenza diagnostic test result and (2) initiation of treatment was delayed for some patients with suspected influenza who are at higher risk of developing severe complications, including hospitalized patients, because clinicians were waiting for results of real-time reverse transcriptase-polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR) assay.
Who is prioritized for treatment with influenza antiviral drugs?
Most healthy persons (i.e., those without a condition which puts them at higher risk for complications) who develop an illness consistent with uncomplicated influenza do not need to be treated with antiviral medications and will recover without complications. However, clinical judgment should be the ultimate guide in making antiviral treatment decisions for ill persons who are not at higher risk for complications from influenza.
Early empiric treatment with oseltamivir or zanamivir is recommended for all persons with suspected or confirmed influenza requiring hospitalization. Prompt empiric outpatient antiviral therapy is also recommended for persons with suspected influenza who have symptoms of lower respiratory tract illness or clinical deterioration regardless of previous health or age.
Early empiric treatment should be considered for persons with suspected or confirmed influenza who are at higher risk for complications, even if not hospitalized, including:
o Children younger than 2 years old
o Adults 65 years and older
o Pregnant women
o Persons with the following conditions:
. Chronic pulmonary (including asthma), cardiovascular (except hypertension), renal, hepatic, hematological (including sickle cell disease), or metabolic disorders (including diabetes mellitus):
. Disorders that that can compromise respiratory function or the handling of respiratory secretions or that can increase the risk for aspiration (e.g., cognitive dysfunction, spinal cord injuries, seizure disorders, or other neuromuscular disorders)
. Immunosuppression, including that caused by medications or by HIV:
. Persons younger than 19 years of age who are receiving long-term aspirin therapy, because of an increased risk for Reye syndrome.
When should health care providers start treatment with antiviral drugs?
Once the decision to administer antiviral treatment is made, oseltamivir or zanamivir should be initiated as soon as possible. Evidence for benefit from antiviral treatment in studies of seasonal influenza is strongest when treatment is started within 48 hours of illness onset. However, some studies of oseltamivir treatment of hospitalized patients with seasonal influenza have indicated benefit, including reductions in mortality or duration of hospitalization, even for patients whose treatment was started more than 48 hours after illness onset.
When treatment is indicated, health care providers should not wait for laboratory confirmation of influenza to begin oseltamivir or zanamivir treatment of patients with suspected 2009 pandemic H1N1 influenza virus infection. Patients with a negative rapid influenza diagnostic test should be considered for treatment if clinically indicated because a negative result does not rule out influenza virus infection. The sensitivity of rapid influenza diagnostic tests to detect 2009 H1N1 virus in respiratory specimens ranges from 10% to 70%, and therefore false negative results occur frequently. Similarly, false negative results can also occur with immunoflorescence assays.
What actions should health care providers take when waiting for influenza test results?
Health care providers should empirically treat persons with suspected influenza illness who are at increased risk for complications if clinically indicated while influenza test results are pending. Antiviral treatment is most effective when administered as early as possible in the course of illness. The rRT-PCR tests are the most sensitive and specific influenza diagnostic tests, but they may not be readily available, obtaining test results may take one to several days, and test performance depends on the individual rRT-PCR assay. Antiviral treatment should not be delayed until rRT-PCR test results are available.
For More Information
Updated Interim Recommendations for the Use of Antiviral Medications in the Treatment and Prevention of Influenza for the 2009-2010 Season: http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/recommendations.htm

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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 04:19 PM
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10. wow
figures, I called the doc last week. I specifically asked for an antiviral because of my asthma, I also mentioned that I had been flu like for only one day and that time was of the essence, if I understood correctly. She said that haven't given out ANY anti viral because they expect things to get worse.

My opinion. This is how things get worse in the first place, but hey, I'm not a doctor, I"m just sick a lot.

Finally got an appt. with the doc for my bronchitis, mentioned my asthma and shortness of breath. Appt. is NEXT FRIDAY. Thats right the 30th! Which means most likely some day next week I will have to brave the ER, panicked patients, very sick and contagious people, over worked staff and probably go home at best with breathing treatment and at home rest or I'll be REALLY sick just like they want, steroids ( yay mania!, hopefully I can get hospitalized for that! woohoo) antibiotics, and some new illness from being confined with the sickos.

Can anyone tell that I'm REALLY annoyed, pissed, tired and ready to move to Canada where I can get some friggin medical treatment. GRRRRRRRRR


I apologize for the bitchiness, all the random CAPS and to you NJMaverick. This vent was not meant for you, of course. You who were nice enough to post this link, and who thought I should have been given some type of treatment, as well. I just happened to get pissy around your post. :hi:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 06:01 AM
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15. Sorry to hear that. Feel better
:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:27 PM
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4. My dear Rising Phoenix!
Ah, sweetie...

You WILL get better! It takes time and patience...

Resting enough is very important. This gives your body the energy it needs to get well!

Whine all you want!

I've got your back...:hug:
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:29 PM
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6. You always do!
:hug:
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:43 PM
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9. I hope you get well soon.
I'm just trying to not get it, my daughter and granddaughter who live with us, have had it since early last week. I have surgery scheduled in 8 days and god only knows if I get sick when it will be rescheduled. Our insurance runs out at the end of the year.

From being on FB, I'm hearing a lot of relatives around the country have it too. My granddaughter, who has gone back to school, said that 9 kids went home one day, several had already not come in and by the end of that day there were only 7 left in class.

Take care and get plenty of rest.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 05:35 PM
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11. Sorry to hear you're feeling all crappy and stuff.
I'm sick too, but nothing major so far. A lot of yuking, but no high fever. I don't think it's the flu or I'd be wiped a lot more than I am.

Here's to both of us feeling better soon. :toast:
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 05:40 PM
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12. thanks
:hi:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 06:19 PM
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13. I hope you feel better soon.
:hug:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 06:25 PM
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14. You did appear a bit teed off in your pic thread
Completely understandable. When I'm sick, I just
want the world to leave me the f*** alone. Get
well soon, OK?

:hug:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 08:37 AM
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16. Sorry you are sick and, yes, you are a nice person.
As far as the impending swine flu, I've decided that this is a good time to panic.


AAAAAAAGGHHHH!!! It's coming!! We're goners, Scoob! Game over man!
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:15 AM
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17. thanks hon!
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:16 AM
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18. Sending you get well wishes
from across the screen and keyboard.
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:46 AM
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19. thanks hon!
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