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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:21 PM
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I am *this close* to dumping a drum of Agent Orange on my lawn
Friggin' dandelions.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:22 PM
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1. SALAD!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:23 PM
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3. You don't make friends with salad, trof
Better living through chemistry, mi amigo.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:28 PM
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9. Yessss
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:22 PM
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2. WTF man. Just pick them, wash them and eat them with a nice vinaigrette.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:26 PM
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5. That's a hippie answer
Ya hippie.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:25 PM
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4. I'll bet you like frigging dandy lions Trebek, you furry.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:27 PM
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6. Hater.
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:27 PM
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7. Dandelion Wine!
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/dandelio.asp

Dandelion Wine (1)


* 3 qts dandelion flowers
* 1 lb golden raisins
* 1 gallon water
* 3 lbs granulated sugar
* 2 lemons
* 1 orange
* yeast and nutrient


Pick the flowers just before starting, so they're fresh. You do not need to pick the petals off the flower heads, but the heads should be trimmed of any stalk. Put the flowers in a large bowl. Set aside 1 pint of water and bring the remainder to a boil. Pour the boiling water over the dandelion flowers and cover tightly with cloth or plastic wrap. Leave for two days, stirring twice daily. Do not exceed this time. Pour flowers and water in large pot and bring to a low boil. Add the sugar and the peels (peel thinly and avoid any of the white pith) of the lemons and orange. Boil for one hour, then pour into a crock or plastic pail. Add the juice and pulp of the lemons and orange. Allow to stand until cool (70-75 degrees F.). Add yeast and yeast nutrient, cover, and put in a warm place for three days. Strain and pour into a secondary fermentation vessel (bottle or jug). Add the raisins and fit a fermentation trap to the vessel. Strain and rack after wine clears, adding reserved pint of water and any additional required to top up. Leave until fermentation ceases completely, then rack again. Set aside 2 months and rack and bottle. This wine must age six months in the bottle before tasting, but will improve remarkably if allowed a year.

Dandelion Wine (2)


* 2 qts dandelion flowers
* 3 lbs granulated sugar
* 4 oranges
* 1 gallon water
* yeast and nutrient


This is the traditional "Midday Dandelion Wine" of old, named because the flowers must be picked at midday when they are fully open. Pick the flowers and bring into the kitchen. Set one gallon of water to boil. While it heats up to a boil, remove as much of the green material from the flower heads as possible (the original recipe calls for two quarts of petals only, but this will work as long as you end up with two quarts of prepared flowers). Pour the boiling water over the flowers, cover with cloth, and leave to steep for two days. Do not exceed two days. Pour the mixture back into a pot and bring to a boil. Add the peelings from the four oranges (again, no white pith) and boil for ten minutes. Strain through a muslin cloth or bag onto a crock or plastic pail containing the sugar, stirring to dissolve. When cool, add the juice of the oranges, the yeast and yeast nutrient. Pour into secondary fermentation vessel, fit fermentation trap, and allow to ferment completely. Rack and bottle when wine clears and again when no more lees form for 60 days. Allow it to age six months in the bottle before tasting, but a year will improve it vastly. This wine has less body than the first recipe produces, but every bit as much flavor (some say more!).

Dandelion Wine (3)


* 2 qts dandelion flowers
* 1 11.5 oz can of Welch's 100% White Grape frozen concentrate
* 6-3/4 pts water
* 2-1/2 lbs granulated sugar
* 2 lemons
* 1 orange
* 1 tsp yeast nutrient
* Champagne wine yeast


Pick and remove petals from the flowers ahead of time and freeze petals until you have enough. Put the petals in a nylon straining bag, tie closed, and bring the water to a boil in large pot. When water boils, place nylon bag in water, reduce to a simmer, and cover pot with lid. Simmer for 20 minutes and remove from heat. When cool, drain petals (squeeze lightly) and return water to a low boil. Add the sugar and the peels (peel thinly and avoid any of the white pith) of the lemons and orange. Reduce heat and simmer for one hour, then pour into a crock or plastic pail. Add the juice and pulp of the lemons and orange and the white grape concentrate. Allow to stand until cool (70-75 degrees F.). Add yeast and yeast nutrient, cover, and put in a warm place for three days. Strain and pour into a secondary fermentation vessel (bottle or jug) and fit airlock. When wine clears, rack into clean secondary, top up and refit airlock. Rack, top up and refit airlock every 60 days as long as even a fine dusting of lees form. When wine stops throwing sediment for 60 days, rack into bottles and age six months before tasting. It will improve remarkably if allowed to age a full year.

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:28 PM
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8. I like wine, but I think I might hurl.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:29 PM
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10. It's actually very yummy. Nice green flavor.
yum yum.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:30 PM
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11. If you can taste green, you might be having a stroke
I can hear the sun!


THUD
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:37 PM
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12. You're just pissed about your margins.
Raggedy-ass margins.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:49 PM
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14. Is it sweet?
For some reason, it looks as though it might be sweet and I don't like sweet drinks.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:52 PM
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22. Depends, but the good stuff is very dry.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:43 PM
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13. I can commiserate, sorta.
DH can hear them taunting him, he tells me they are laughing at him.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:55 PM
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15. They are really pretty easy to eradicate if you understand how to treat them
I prefer to use lawn chemicals like 2,4-D to control them in the spring (Weed-b-gone and others). Effectively what the chemical does is cause unregulated growth in the weed which kills it. As such it's important to know when and how to apply.

You should apply it when the dandelions are growing their fastest. This is in the spring. Don't wait until they flower, because their growth cycle is nearly at an end and the chemical is not very effective. If you've waited this long, simply mow them down very close to the ground and wait a couple of days until they have produced a good amount of leaf surface area, but are still actively growing.

I like to use a concentrate applied with a hose end sprayer, but if you have a small lawn there are a variety of small to large sprayers you can use.

So as with most lawn chemicals, the key is to know how and when they work best.

I'm not a master gardener, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:22 PM
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16. 2,4-D was one of the two ingredients in Agent Orange.
It (2,4-D) was what gave it the orange color.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:38 PM
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17. Except sans dioxin
Most selective herbicides work essentially the same way and contain many of the same ingredients.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:12 PM
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23. They didn't add dioxin to Agent Orange.
It's a byproduct of the manufacturing process. The sloppier the quality controls during manufacture, the more dioxin in the final product. When you buy from lowest bidder there's a good chance that you will be buying a less than perfect product.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 01:47 PM
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26. It's really just two ways of saying the same thing
I don't think it has much to do with lowest bidder, it's just the nature of the production of 2,4,5-T. Although you can certainly reduce the amount of dioxin produced with better quality control, you can't eliminate it and at the time they didn't fully understand the effects of the by-products. So there's no guarantee that a more expensive producer would have produced less dioxin and they very well could have produced more.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:58 PM
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18. pave your front yard and spray paint it green
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:22 PM
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19. Learn to live with nature, and quit dumping herbicides, pesticides
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 06:26 PM by hedgehog
and fertilizers all over your lawn. That stuff ends up in the watershed and makes for funny looking fish and frogs!


While you're at it, raise the cutting height on your mower so the grass won't be as stressed during any dry spells.


http://www.seattle.gov/util/stellent/groups/public/@spu/@csb/documents/webcontent/ecological_200312021255394.pdf

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elfrangel Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:54 PM
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20. I hate dandelions too....but...
found out this week that they are very important for hummingbird health. They help protect the birds from bacterial infection. :shrug:

Who knew?!



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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:17 PM
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21. Quit watering them...they will go away eventually. n/t
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:14 PM
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24. I keep telling the wife
she is going to come home one day, and find the whole hard has been black topped...I hate mowing grass, I hate weeds.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:54 PM
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25. They're flowers. Chill.
Yellow flowers are pretty. They feed bees and other critters. They are edible. What's not to like?

A vast expanse of emerald green grass - now that's horrifying and unnatural.
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