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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:46 PM
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One of my parishioners just asked me what will happen if Obama isn't a citizen.
This is the interesting thing about being in ministry. For some people, I'm the most highly educated person in their lives--or at least the only one they can go to with questions like this. It's an honor and responsibility I take seriously. So, this woman heard this on the radio (Rush or Neil Boortz are both on the local AM station). She called me to ask what would happen if he's not a citizen. I assured her that SCOTUS isn't hearing the cases, so nothing to worry about. That seemed to settle it for her. But she's a reasonable person (hence calling to ask about it). Others won't react so sanely.

The people passing this crap around need to be smacked upside the head.

See, this is where my sanity and reasonableness end.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:50 PM
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1. Fairness Doctrine NOW!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:03 PM
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2. I dunno. I listen to AAR, and don't want them to have to "equalize" things
by adding Boortz or Hannity to their lineup. So, I have mixed feelings.

I did suggest that this lady listen to AAR, now that we have it on the Dekalb station.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:23 PM
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3. AAR sucks and has no reach
you need to get OUR side on the programs that have the most reach. that is Rush, Hannity, etc...

they OWN the market. AAR is (and has been for a long time), pretty much dead.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:41 PM
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5. We just started getting AAR--well, some is AAR programming,
some other porgressive programming--on a local station. I'm glad it's finally getting out here, and hope it's a sign that that reach is increasing.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:50 PM
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6. they don't understand the market
never did. have been listening for years (well, stopped years ago). Their marketing sucks because they just don't get the "talk radio crowd"

Like I said, go to where the people are and the success is. That (unfortunately) isn't NPR, rather it is AM and FM mouthbreather stations. MAKE them 'think'.

I'm surprised AAR is on ANY station still.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:25 PM
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4. This?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:53 PM
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7. Funny! It's a good question, though. I listened to "Christian" radio the other day,
(I do this occasionally to remember how evil the other side of Christianity is) and it was some afternoon program that is on apparently every day. They spent the whole hour - the WHOLE FUCKING HOUR - on how Obama was born in Kenya and that his presidency will ruin God's most perfect and holy nation ever.

Seriously.

I like your comment that for a lot of your parishioners, you are the most educated person they know. That's probably a pretty good bet in most churches. Something I've had to relearn since moving out of NYC, where the two churches I was involved with were filled with minsters, professors/teachers, doctors, lawyers, and business people. Plus my workplaces were filled with highly educated people, most of us Ivy League. One of my churches did a survey while I was there, and 93% of the membership had *at least* a Masters Degree. God, that was a fun place - the adult education classes, led by some brilliant people (one a lawyer), were fantastic dialogues with lots of arguing and bouncing back ideas and woo hoo ness. At the church I attend now, the adult ed. class is mostly a group of people who say "Oh, okay" whenever the leader brings something up. Not because he's authoritarian, but because they (the people in the class) don't know how to ... well, they don't really quite know how to think. Nor do they think they have the authority to offer their thoughts on things religious, probably due to abusive windbag authoritarian pastors in their past. But also, I think, a fair amount of self-doubt on their own ability to synthesize data.

It was a real change moving back into a more rural area and having to live with fairly uneducated people again. I get weird questions like you got from my family and others in the community - stuff that I don't even think about because the answers seem so obvious, but are so difficult for others. God, that sounds arrogant - I know you know what I mean, I just wish there were a better way to say it.

Anyway, that was a tangent. Sorry.

Mostly I wanted to rant over the Christian assholes on that radio station who felt that, on a show that is ostensibly about faith matters, it was REALLY REALLY FUCKING IMPORTANT FOR THE WORK OF THE KINGDOM to spend an hour telling their listeners about Obama and Democrats and other leaders lying about Obama's birthplace.
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