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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 07:37 PM
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I have a headache from someones smoking.
We were in a car together all day. As soon as I got in the car I knew he was a smoker. He apologized for it, but smoked several cigarettes and hanging his arm out the window when smoking just wasn't enough to prevent me from getting a full fledged migraine.

God, I hate cigarette smoke. I am totally nauseous and I am supposed to spend the whole day with this person tomorrow too. (Being trained).
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:08 PM
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1. Gee undeterred, I hope you feel better.
G'night.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:16 PM
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2. I'd Tell Him That You Can't Tolerate The Cigarette Smoke
I mean if it is being trained for a job you shouldn't have to be subjected to smoke unless you agreed to it on the front end and knew what you were getting into.

I don't think a lot of smokers are aware of how toxic and annoying and painful it can be to be around someone's smoke and hanging the arm out the window doesn't cut it.

Hope you feel better and sorry you are hurting. Just logged on and saw your thread.

:hug: :hug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:28 PM
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3. He knows. He told me he hates the smell too. Go figure.
Everything I wore today stinks.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:29 PM
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4. Ugh, I hate that
smell

:puke:

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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:34 PM
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5. I quit smoking three years ago...
but I was a very considerate smoker when I did smoke. I wouldn't smoke in anyone's car, house, etc.
I would always, ALWAYS go outside. I never tossed my butts either. I would field strip them and stick them in my pocket. Even if I was at a park for a BBQ with a bunch of people. I would walk away from the group to light up.

Hey! All you smokers out there. You can quit like I did. I smoked for 20 years and was able to ditch the habit. A lot of states get money from the tobacco settlements and will provide free nicotine patches and gum.Wish I had a link but go to the nearby adult clinic or call around and you can find out if you can get some patches.The only downside is you have to do group. I am not a "group" person but it really helped me out. I wanted to hear how everyone else was fairing in their quitting smoking. It only hurts for the first 72 hours...then every day after it gets easier.

It's so nice to be a non-smoker. You don't have to worry about packing up your cigs when you hit the streets. You don't have to worry about people hitting you up for a cigarette when they see you smoking. And you get that extra buck in your pocket. SOOOOOOO worth it!!!
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:41 PM
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7. How did you do it?
I've tried Wellbutrin (made me emotionally labile, which was funny but often inappropriate), the patch (gave me migraines even at the lowest dose), the gum and the lozenges (made me have such bad acid reflux I thought I was having a heart attack), and Chantix (sent my blood pressure through the roof and made me a Cranky Bitch). My doc has said I'm under too much stress to quit right now, but there's always stress in my life, so ????? (I'm in the midst of my Ph.D. right now).

Cold turkey requires me to lock myself in a room kind of like in Trainspotting, where someone leaves me a couple of buckets on the floor and periodically brings me soup. I don't have the luxury of that right now.

Can I make it without chewing arm off? Alternatively, can I function with only one arm? How will I play Guitar Hero?

Seriously, though. How did you do it? I've cut back quite a bit, but I haven't been able to make the full leap.

- a fellow tries-to-be-considerate but would rather be "former" smoker
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:45 PM
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9. I know someone who went cold turkey except for gum.
Ten years later she still uses gum. Also she had a baby. Pregancy is a strong incentive to stop smoking, as is raising a child.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:54 PM
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10. Well, I'll definitely be skipping the pregnancy part
but maybe I can find some flavor of non-nicotine gum that I can keep in my mouth.

I'm damn near about done. I just haven't found a way to go about quitting that doesn't have me terrified of the withdrawal.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:10 PM
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12. I used the patch
I got HIGH the first time I put on a patch because it had so much nicotine in it. Then every few weeks you step down to a smaller patch, then a smaller patch, until they are gone.

By the time I was on my smallest patch, I knew I would never smoke again.
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Resuscitated Ethics Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 07:14 AM
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15. Just don't smoke for two minutes...
then do it again. The impulse lasts only a couple minutes: if it takes you longer to procure and ignite just skip it, only habit is driving you.

I quit 10 months ago after over thirty years. I loved smoking but am determined to never again suck the satan tubes of misery. I used Chantix, only half dose halfway through, bought a couple packs over time within a month of original quit, each time would smoke one or two then destroy remainder, believe me, the drama queen crap is gone at six weeks, but the "crazy monkeys" smoking in your dreams can go on for a couple months.

It gets easier. (Booze may make it impossible.) One day it occurred to me that I had not thought about it for a couple days. I make a scene at doorways lousy with smokers; with exhaling and gasping. Fuck the smokers, getting kissy with their lung farting! Thanks for sharing your private gas with me ashtray head!! Phew!! Ack ack! Smells like a goddammed BAR in here.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:36 PM
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6. Dude, that is thoroughly inconsiderate.
You don't smoke when there are other people in the car. Period.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:43 PM
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8. The first thing he said to me when I got in the car was
"this is the only vice I have left". Well, at least there wasn't an ashtray full of butts in the car. But the car stank anyway. I am going to have to say something tomorrow - like I'll just wait for him while he takes a break away from the car.

I have 2 close friends who smoke and both have serious health problems which are exacerbated by it. One was forced to quit when she was hospitalized for 10 days with lung problems. I would have been SCARED to death to smoke again if I were her. The other one has VERY high blood pressure and I would be SCARED to death to smoke again if I were her too. But neither of them can stop. So they keep a distance from me when they smoke but I really wish they could stop because I feel like they are killing themselves.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:00 PM
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11. It's a horrible thing. It really is.
I know I have a serious addiction problem, and it aggravates my allergies to a point where I'm taking pretty much every prescription allergy med on the market. I have family that died of heart disease in their 60s (I'm 37) and I still can't make myself quit.

As I said upthread, I'm so terrified of the withdrawal (it's horrible, at least for me) that I haven't been able to convince myself the health benefits could be worth it. I wish they had inpatient treatment for nicotine addiction they way they do for alcohol and illegal drugs. I think it's the only way I could actually kick it (although I'm getting closer).

Still, I would never, never, NEVER smoke around other people. As a teacher (college level), I hate even thinking that I might be setting an example.

Sorry you got stuck with a jerk today. I hope your head feels better. :hug:
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:25 PM
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13. I'm a smoker, and I think you have a valid complaint.
Not all smokers are the asshole kind that cannot be considerate of others. There is NO smoking allowed in my car if there is even ONE non-smoker riding along. I consider it a matter of common courtesy.

It's a terrible habit, and also a tough habit to break. I tried the Chantix a couple months back, and it made me very nauseous. At week two when the dose is doubled, I was puking a couple times every day after I took it.

And I had the side effect of very vivid and frightening dreams, and would wake up in a panic state with profuse sweating.

I think you should just approach your co-worker and tell him how you feel and how it makes you sick. If it were me, I would thank you for saying something. Hopefully he will too.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:30 AM
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14. Thanks Lil Missy
I should have been more assertive. He is training me and if I am too sick to work it affects both of us.

And I know its hard to stop. When my good friends have tried to stop they had success until a stressful event happened in their lives and then- they started again. Well life hands out stressful events fairly regularly and we all have our ways of coping.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 07:39 AM
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16. He doesn't have to smoke in the car
I had quit smoking when I got a new car last year and when I started back up again, I decided never to smoke in my car. It's not tough. On a long trip, I stop and get out if I really want a cigaret. It makes me feel almost like I have some discipline and I don't have to worry about "blowback." Ask him to do this and if he agrees, do some small thing for him to show your appreciation like buying him a coffee or something.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 10:44 AM
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17. Was it his car?
If yes, it is his right to smoke in it.

If it's a company car, no one should be smoking in it.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 01:14 PM
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18. His right? Maybe.
I am a smoker, but if someone is riding with me who doesn't smoke, I don't smoke. Period. Even on a long drive. I'll burn one at a gas stop or a potty stop. Not in the car.

If I'm alone or with other smokers, fine. Now, if you don't like the way my car smell, you don't have to ride with me.

Bake
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 03:03 PM
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19. Its his car but if he makes me so sick I can't work
then he has to cover for me. His choice. Today we talked about it. He stood 10 feet away from the car and smoked while I waited. Problem solved.

Its not really a matter of rights when you make your co-worker physically sick. We also realize that the company is going to question why the two of us would take 2 cars to go to the same place, and they would expect us to work this out. Which we did. We were driving to two sites 100 miles round trip today and it made no sense to have the company pay for mileage twice.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:17 PM
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20. What's weird is that happens to me, but only with certain brands.
Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 04:18 PM by Forkboy
Some brands don't even phase me to be around, but others make me want to puke.

I get even by smoking my crack around those people. :silly:
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:20 PM
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21. It's a Test!
They wanna see if you're difficult to get along with

or

They wanna see if you're someone that tolerates other people obviously taking advantage of you

:shrug:
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