The Internet Is Ruining America's Movies and Music

[davidnc76]

Pete Yorn is a Los-Angeles based rock and roller with a gold-record career and Jesus of Nazareth good looks. His songs have appeared in "Spiderman" and "Me, Myself and Irene," and his album's have reached No. 18 on the Billboard charts.

If this were 1978, Mr. Yorn would be a multiplatinum artist living in a Malibu mansion with mountains of cocaine on every horizontal surface, lithe, hippie-ish blonde groupies with names like Veruschka and Christie lining the hallways, and ridiculous Larry Rivers paintings on the bathroom walls. But as it is, he has a cultishly loyal following, solid sales, a long-term recording contract, and a pretty darn good life -- as good as it gets in today's music industry.

The old-fashioned rock star has gone the way of the dodo and the dinosaur. Never again will we have another crazy-as-all-getout Axl Rose, another Jim Morrison who mistakes himself for a poet and has the hypnotic ability to convince a substantial audience it is so, or another Bob Dylan who changes the way a generation sees itself and the world.

Today's music industry is either moribund or dead, depending on whom you ask. Downloading has destroyed it, and no one in the business is smart enough to figure out how to fix it.



Read more:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121824228638426137.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[begin_within]

1. I dunno, maybe,

write some good songs? Just an idea.

[HEyHEY]

2. That woman's a twat - big rock stars always wrote shit music

And I'd say these days there is some of the best music below the radar, and it's easier to access due to the net. If someone's idea of a "healthy music industry" is some long-haired slob coked-up and carrying hep c than that person isn't a music fan.

I prefer finding great stuff I'd not have heard if it wasn't for the net.

[Ahpook]

15. Cheers:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KedxC3mzKPM

[ghostsofgiants]

24. Absofuckinglutely.

But it's an article from the Wall Street Journal, so of course it's bullshit.

[DS1]

3. The movie and music industries ruined America's movies and music

When they make good movies, they get a 3-fold return on them. I'm planning on seeing "The Dark Knight" a third time on my birthday, at an IMAX theater. The first two viewings were at a crappy local place.

Absolute FUCKING SHIT like "The Love Guru" is where they lose those profits. And rightfully so. Mike Myers should be shunned for 5 years after that abortion on a plate.

Sure. I get entertained to some level for free when I download movies or music. However, most of my music downloads recently have been very disappointing. I found out that The Deftones have definitely lost their way. If it was better, I might buy it on iTunes or a similar service that doesn't need iTunes itself.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. abortion on a plate ?!

:spray:/:rofl:

[davidnc76]

21. Wanna help ruin them?

Here are two sites for streaming online bootleg movies:

http://quicksilverscreen.com/videos?c=2


http://www.watch-movies.net/release_date/

[DS1]

22. nice links

[leeroysphitz]

4. I will miss some of what Hollywood does. I do like Big budget special effects popcorn movies.

But as for the music "industry" I could give a fuck if it disappears.

There always have been and always will be talented musicians who want to create and perform music and there will always be lovers of music willing to pay, one way or another, to hear it.

Why should I shed a tear just because technology has taken away the ability of some tin eared bean counter to profit from the production and distribution of the music he could never actually create for himself?

I suppose I should be more concerned with the loss to our GDP from piracy mentioned in the rest of the article but I really think a new business model is HERE TODAY and there really isn't a thing we can hope to do about it now but embrace it, see where it takes us and try to adapt. Somebody will ALWAYS find a way to make money.

[Bake]

23. Plus, the technology has now put multritrack recording capacity

in the hands of musicians everywhere, with no need for a big fancy studio. So more musicians are writing and producing their own stuff.

And that's a good thing.

Bake

[Orsino]

5. It ain't the downloading.

It's the executives who were sick of enriching hippies who merely provided content. Now the artist is hired help--not even an employee, but a contractor or day laborer.

[hippywife]

6. I dun' thin so...

I hear great music on a daily basis. The kicker is the industry has had little or nothing to do with it.

[mokawanis]

7. Maybe they should have tried not gouging us

for the price of cd's. Laying out 18 bucks for a cd that has a few good songs on it is something up with which I will not put. About half my music collection is cd's I bought years ago and the rest is stuff I either bought on itunes or downloaded for free. Fuck the IRAA I say.

[kentauros]

8. And considering that the RIAA is intent on destroying Internet Radio

as well as legitimate downloading, I say fuck 'em, too. Mainstream radio and the music "industry" doesn't care about quality, only profits, yet they still don't get the Internet Age of music. I don't use iTunes, but did any of y'all see just how upset the RIAA got when Apple was making cuts available for 79 cents a download instead of the "accepted" 99 cents? Yeah, greed'll do that to you.

http://www.savenetradio.org/

[leeroysphitz]

18. Well fuck 'em. How do they like .oo cents per download off of usenet?

If they don't like it well then, too bad. It's over johnny. It's OVER!

Or how about Brilliant artists like John Vanderslice, Radiohead or Nine Inch Nails producing and distributing and selling there own music as they see fit without the slightest need for a big label at all and doing so PROFITABLY?

I support www.3wk.com and other internet radio sources but soon we won't have to. Artists are fleeing the old system in droves.

[leeroysphitz]

16. I always KNEW Yoda hated the IRAA... n/t

[JVS]

9. No more great artists like Gene Simmons and Axl Rose?

oh well :nopity:

[XemaSab]

10. I dunno about the movie industry, but the music industry's corpse is about cooled off

I think artists like Radiohead have the right idea: let people pay to download music directly from the artist, so it's 100% profit for the group and much cheaper for the fans. :shrug:

[kentauros]

11. And that's exactly what the RIAA and the MPAA object to

as it cuts them out of the picture entirely. They won't ever state that as it would be too close to the truth, but that's what their problem with the Internet boils down to.

[datasuspect]

12. peter frampton destroyed rock music

[Orrex]

20. I see that you feel like I do

wah wah wah

[Iggo]

13. Downloading is ruining the record business.

Funny thing is, the destruction of the record business will IMPROVE the quality of the music. Rich people make sucky music.

My humble opinion, shared by several.

[leeroysphitz]

19. Several? Try millions. n/t

[geomon666]

17. Maybe if they embraced new technology...

instead of trying to either control it or destroy it they'd be doing better. People want convenience and digital gives them that. I mean where else can you store 600+ songs on a device no bigger than a book of matches? People want to openly share their entertainment tastes with others in an open environment and unfortunately for these companies it's the people that ultimately decide what will or will not succeed.

[ghostsofgiants]

25. The Wall Street Journal has even worse opinions when it comes to music than politics.

Fuck those guys.

[Sheets of Easter]

26. So, it's ruining a business loaded with payola and repetitive corporate garbage?

Oh, yeah, it's a Wall Street Journal article. I forgot...

If it weren't for the internet, people like Pete Yorn wouldn't catch a break in the industry these days.

[Forkboy]

27. Music has never been better, more diversified, and easier to learn about and find.

Dumb article.