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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:19 PM
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Why, all of a sudden, is Amway/Quixtar running TV ads?
:shrug:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:22 PM
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1. Times are tough, gas and food are getting more expensive.
People are looking for additional ways to support themselves.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:23 PM
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2. ah
Too bad Amway/Quixtar is not the best way to support oneself.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:24 PM
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5. Well yeah, but your average dumbfuck American doesn't know that.
:D
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:23 PM
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3. ...
:rofl:

Support themselves... with Amway... that's funny.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:25 PM
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6. Hey, look, they've been laying low for a while.
A whole new batch of suckers has come into adulthood believing they have to keep up with the Joneses.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:24 PM
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4. Because people are getting desperate enough to fall for their shit again.
So now that they're hiding behind the new Quixtar name, they're trying to sucker in a whole new crowd of people.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:51 PM
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7. They've been Quixtar for awhile now...
Probably about 8 or 9 yrs actually. This is not a new thing..rather..counter to some really bad publicity of late (and yes, I know people who have been involved in Quixtar)
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 10:06 PM
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9. That's still relatively new. Amway's been around a while.
Believe me, I know far more about Amway's doings than most people.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:27 AM
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11. scamway
are you a 'diamond' 'ruby' 'emerald'? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:05 AM
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13. My parents lost all their money trying to 'build the business' and they got desperate enough
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 09:06 AM by DarkTirade
to end up doing office work for their upline.

That's when they discovered that he only made about 3% of his income from Amway itself... the rest was all from selling the promotional books and tapes to suckers like them.

So my parents got the hell out and my mom wrote a tell-all book about it. :P Didn't earn a whole lot of her money back, but at least she got something done.

She also discovered that he actually had less of a net worth than my parents did. Because he had to try and appear rich to sucker people in better, so everything was mortgaged up to the hilt and he was in debt up to his eyeballs.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:58 PM
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8. Desperation. And the fact that they can't trash our towns with spam signs anymore.
They learned their lesson when we ( www.causs.org ) beat Herbalife like a rented mule (in a public-relations sense, of course), and made them forbid their "distributors" from nailing all those obnoxious, illegal "Work From Home" signs all over the telephobe poles in everyone's towns.

Redstone
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 11:36 PM
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10. Pyramid schemes have been made legal?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:48 AM
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12. I used to be involved with Quixstar
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:07 AM
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14. I hope you didn't lose too much money.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:07 AM
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15. Hell, Amway has sponsored a basketball arena in Orlando
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 09:09 AM by PeterU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway_Arena

So anyone who goes to a game at Amway Arena has to build 10 arenas of their own, apparently.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:07 PM
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21. Rich Devos is one of the founders of Amway, and he sponsors a lot of businesses around Orlando.
Like the RDV sportsplex, the Orlando Magic, ect.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:28 AM
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16. They must be getting desparate: word of mouth isn't enough anymore.
I lost two friends to that.

Both of them joined Amway/Quixtar after they graduated college, and that's all they would talk about.

Try to bring up any hobbies or other discussion? They aim the conversation straight towards Amway like a drunk driver. "I've always had time to do what I want because I'm living my own dream..."

Invite them to a party, and they'll use the entire time to tell everyone there that they "sell opportunities" and that all of you with jobs are just "slaves" to someone else's dream.
(And while their argument is that when you go to work, you're working to make someone else rich, they don't tell you that if you join their organization, all of your hard efforts will financially benefit them until you sucker someone into joining yourself.

I hate Amway/Quixtar with the rage of a thousand suns. My experiences with it are that it's an invasive, cult-like

It got so bad the only think I could do was simply cut all ties with either of them. I have no idea if either of them were very successful with it. I know that one of them was "six months away from retirement"...and has been that way for nearly seven years now.


...but they did make decent quality squirt bottles for cleaning products.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:30 AM
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17. In hard times, people become more vulnerable . . .
to scams like this. Or so Amyway hopes. Michael Moore included a funny -- and sad at the same time -- story about this in "Roger and Me."
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:08 PM
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22. That's how my mom got suckered in.
My dad had just left her and she was stuck with two kids and wanted to make sure we were provided for. So she fell for it. Took her about 15 years to figure out how badly she'd been suckered.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:50 AM
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18. Because I guess now is as good time as any to join a cult!
:o
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:54 AM
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19. Yeah, they need their pyramid base to grow.
My buddy did Amway in the 90s. He laid out the formula for me pretty cut and dry: you send them a check for 5,000 dollars and in a couple of months they'll send one out to you for 3,000 dollars. Sounds like a GREAT plan to me.
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:09 AM
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20. you can make a small fortune with Amway
if you start out with a large fortune.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:37 PM
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23. pyramid schemes are the only part of the American economy
that still can appeal to the same percentage of suckers as it used to


basically, capitalism is all Amway anyway.
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