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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 04:50 PM Original message |
I just met a Marxist Christian Rocker. Ask me anything. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. The only real (as in actually belong to the party) Socialists I ever met |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. Outstanding |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Christian, punk, marxist? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Doesn't understand what about Christianity? nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The whole concept, apparently. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Girard says Christianity is anti-authoritarian at its core. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yeah, uhm, no. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yet you seem to have no trouble reconciling Marxism with anti-authoritarianism |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. For what it's worth |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Really depends on what supposed "words from Jesus" you want to go by |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. There are similarities. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. It is precisely the same re: Jesus and Christianity. |
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ghostsofgiants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Marxist ideology also talks about the whithering away of the state. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Well, my point was that the same could be said for Christianity |
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ghostsofgiants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. In that case we are on the same page. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Punk, like all social trends, is based on mimesis. |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I thought it was based on emesis |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. It can be |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Jesus wasn't executed for securities fraud |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. You took the words out of my mouth. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. His logic was similar to Vonnegut's |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. It works if one acknowledges that our society has moved on to a new dominant religion: consumerism |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Oh, of course |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Have you considered, alternatively |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. I think yer jest grouchy about missin yer chance t'join th'Amish Punk Commune |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. Everything old is new again..... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Dorthy Day, Cornell West, Desmond Tutu, MLK Jr.... |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Oscar Romero |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Shot while celebrating communion. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. A true martyr for Christ |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Any Christian... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Holy shit, Comrade! |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Did he have any opiates for the masses? |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Screw the masses... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. There are more Christian Marxists (or at least democratic socialists) than |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. That's because the average DUer is so wrapped up in scoffing at religion that he/she doesn't care |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
41. ITA..... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. nice |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. Leftist religion is awesome. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. So we have to fool people to liberate them? |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. If they are fooled, then they are not liberated. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. "leftist religion is awesome" |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You assume that the two are mutually exclusive. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. You can only know they're lying if you--and you alone--know ultimate reality. |
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ghostsofgiants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-27-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. I've met a few of those in my day. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
43. Here come the communist theologian punk-movement experts |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
44. The responses on this thread... |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
46. Is a Marxist Christian sort of like the "Socialist Libertarian" I once met? nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Okay, I gotta admit. "Socialist Libertarian" I just don't get. nt |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I didn't get it either. |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Social libertarian + economic socialist = socialist libertarian? |
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