Do you know people who are incapable of following directions?

[undeterred]

I do, and its making me insane. :banghead:

[graywarrior]

1. YES! And it makes me want to scream bloody murder!

[undeterred]

2. Is there a room where I can go to do that right now?

Somebody else lives upstairs and I don't want him to call the police.

[graywarrior]

5. I use a pillow.

[erinlough]

3. My entire 8th grade math class....

at least it seems that way sometimes.

[khashka]

4. Yeah and it makes me SO frustrated!

When my mom or my ex have computer problems they turn to me. And I'll them what to do, Simply. And they can't follow the directions. I have to write it down in a sort of "see Spot run. Run Spot run" kinda way. Most of the time I just give up and do it myself.

Khash.

[Zavulon]

6. Yes, every single one of my fucking co-workers.

Big surprise - most of them think Chimpy is a good president.

[struggle4progress]

7. It kin be a slew o'fun, not doin exactly what one is told t'do. But styles differs.

Th'passive-aggressive modes seems t'be most popular:

Why! How wuz I spozed t'know that turnin on the winch wud drag ya truck up into th'tree like that? Hold it right there: jest a minit ago, ya wuz tellin me t'turn on th'winch! Why ain't ya make up ya mind what ya want?

But m'frinds and I allus done prefer direct disobedience:

Okie-dokie, then. We hears ya loud an clear. We hears ya sayin don't do these, do those. Yessirrahbob, ain't no doubt in ours minds what ya sayin. Ya know, ya done persuaded us o'somethin: ya done persuaded us that ya is full o'bullfinchs

[NV Whino]

8. Yes.

90% of the truck drivers and delivery people I deal with.

[mike_c]

9. after every semester I have to deal with half a dozen or so folks...

...who get all irate because they missed deadlines, did stuff totally wrong, or simply shot themselves in the foot because they didn't follow simple directions.

[grasswire]

10. did ya ever run across anyone who has Central Auditory Processing Disorder?

It's a disability of the brain stem where the person's hearing is okay but the processing of the info is flawed in one of several variants. Can't follow directions, can't remember, not a verbal learner, etc. We're pretty sure our high school freshman is CAPD; getting an evaluation this month. Just wondered if you see any students diagnosed with that.

[murielm99]

11. One of my friends had a son with that.

He flunked everything in school through third grade. He was a sweet and gentle kid, and he was starting to act out because school was such a struggle. His mom insisted that something was wrong, but the school just shrugged.

She had him tested at her own expense, and they found the problem. They put him in special ed classes, and he had vocational training.

He is grown and married now. He works in his brother's auto repair business as a mechanic. He does a good job.

His mom ended up going back to school when they thought her husband's job would be outsourced. She became a speech and hearing pathologist.

She has never explained to me exactly what they did to help her son, but I am impressed by the person he turned out to be and how hard she fought for him.

[mike_c]

23. we rarely see diagnoses for learning disabilities....

We usually only get a form letter from the student disabilities folks that cites unspecified "learning disabilities," and that only if the student chooses to share it with us. I found that the number of those I receive plummeted to near zero a few years ago when I began giving multiday exams and demonstration projects for evaluations-- the majority of times students gave them to me involved seeking relaxed testing parameters, most of which don't really apply in my classes anymore.

[hunter]

31. Frustrating as all hell.

I've got a touch of that. If I can't write something down as I hear it, it's gone. If I'm not concentrating on hearing spoken language, it might as well be some language I don't understand . I know what English sounds like as a foreign language because that's the way I hear it whenever I'm not paying attention.

My favorite way to watch television is with subtitles or closed captions on and the sound turned down to almost nothing so the voices don't distract me.

Reading and writing have always been essential to my language skills. Even in ordinary conversation I feel and see the words in my head more than I hear them. It's like my hands know what I want to say before my mouth does.

[TrogL]

39. I have CAPD

So does my son and daughter.

He was finally diagnosed in Grade 10. Next year he qualifies for learning disabilities and the special stuff.

I went through school in the 60's endlessly complaining about not being able to understand the teacher. I'd demand to be taken for a hearing test or the school would send me and everytime I'd score 18-22,000 Hz. at some ridiculous level. I could hear the earth rotate and bats squeaking five miles away. The audiologist would say something about "yeah, well, people mumble" and send me packing.

What they weren't getting was that the teacher was babbling away up front, I could "hear" the phonemes but I wasn't processing them. I was getting great marks because I was tuning the teacher out and memorizing the textbook or copying stuff off the board then doing my own research in the library to make up what I'd missed. But anything auditory in the classroom was a complete nightmare for me, especially group discussions.

[grasswire]

42. I'd like to know what kind of "special stuff" is planned for your son.

I know that sometimes intensive work to retrain the ear is used, and there's some software for individualized work at the computer. Earobics is one program. This kid is right now failing spanish, global studies, biology, and geometry. She's smart, but just not processing. Perhaps there's some ADD involved, too. I'm so eager to get the evaluation done.

Maybe we should put a thread over in the health area about CAPD.

[TrogL]

44. A laptop, audio books, audio exams, he's allowed to chew gum in class

All of which is kind of wierd. He's got other learning disabilities so I think they're thinking the CAPD is the least of his problems, so perhaps with the audio in headphones he'll be able to "get it". I think the audio exams are supplemental to the written exams so he gets the question twice.

The chewing gum is for the ADHD.

Wish they allowed that when I was a teacher. There was a direct correlation between the gum chewers, the toe-tappers, foot vibrators and the kids who couldn't pay attention. I think they were self-medicating.

[grasswire]

45. yes

Fidgeting and that kind of physical manifestation is symptomatic. We've noticed that when our girl stops listening at the dinner table, she starts moving.

[ghostsofgiants]

12. About 90% of the people who call in to where I work.

x(

[timtom]

24. Don't tell me...let me guess.

Some sort of computer help desk kinda job?

[ghostsofgiants]

32. *ding ding ding* We have a winner.

:P

[timtom]

33. Why, I'm a member of that fraternity, too

though not actively anymore.

Thank God.

[raccoon]

13. Yes. I think a lot of the time it's because they don't listen worth a toot. nt

[undeterred]

14. When someone says they will do what you need them to do

and you find out a month later that they've not started it or done something completely different... and there is no disability - I just can't believe it.

[BarenakedLady]

15. What annoys me is

When I tell someone to do something one way (or the answer to something they are trying to figure out), it assumed that I couldn't possibly know what I'm talking about, being the silly woman that I am. So they do it their own way, because obviously they are much more knowledgeable on the subject (and on all other subjects) only to realize later on that I was correct all along. You think after years of this, I would get the benefit of the doubt. But nooooooooo.

:banghead:

[undeterred]

17. This is the phenomenon of men explaining things...

because we never know as much as they do. :sarcasm:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174918/rebecca_solnit_the_archipelago_of_arrogance

[BarenakedLady]

18. Awesome article.

Thanks!

"Every woman knows what I'm talking about. It's the presumption that makes it hard, at times, for any woman in any field; that keeps women from speaking up and from being heard when they dare; that crushes young women into silence by indicating, the way harassment on the street does, that this is not their world. It trains us in self-doubt and self-limitation just as it exercises men's unsupported overconfidence."

"Being told that, categorically, he knows what he's talking about and she doesn't, however minor a part of any given conversation, perpetuates the ugliness of this world and holds back its light."

:thumbsup:

"Men explain things to me, still. And no man has ever apologized for explaining, wrongly, things that I know and they don't."

Me neither.

[Inchworm]

19. Break it up ladies

Just go up the road here til you see a 'frigerator on side of the road and turn left. Thats the hand you don't eat with.. then on up t'til you get to a big pinkish house... then.. then..

:yoiks:

[BarenakedLady]

20. Oh you!

:spank: :spank:

[undeterred]

21. I keep the link handy

for EXPLAINING this phenomenon to the men who practice it.

[timtom]

25. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

[undeterred]

27. read the article at the link

It explains what women experience very well.

[timtom]

28. I was being facetious.

You know, the meme about women not understanding? and I was pretending to be a guy who didn't understand?

[undeterred]

35. Like the person who inspired me to write this post.

I am beyond angry and frustrated.

[timtom]

36. I sense your frustation

sympathasize with it and hope that my little jest wasn't too obnoxious.

[DS1]

41. That's not how you should explain things to men

:yoiks:

[BarenakedLady]

43. I prefer a 2 x 4

[mwdem]

34. Great article!

I just sent it to my daughter, and my husband who somehow has magically turned into one of those men who explains the obvious, with that faraway look in his eyes, while I patiently wait for him to finish. I usually nod, and walk away. It's not worth telling him I already knew what he's talking about. I hope he reads it, and gets it.

[kwassa]

16. Ask anyone who teaches. Our classes are full of them.

[MissMillie]

22. Yes, they're called MBA students

in particular Harvard MBA students.


(And if you want proof, look in the White House. The occupant gets a copy of the directions (the Constitution) when he moves in, but the current occupant just can't be bothered to follow the directions...)

[krispos42]

26. The electted Reps and Senators in Congress

"Get us out of Iraq"
"Impeach Bush and Cheney"



Wait, what? I don't understand...

:banghead:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

29. I know who isn't....

....and that's me. I've got an internal map. :)

[skygazer]

30. I think a lot of people have no listening skills whatsoever

As well as no reading skills. There's a gap between hearing/reading and comprehension. It's frustrating.

There's a guy in our company who I'm supposed to inform when I'm having problems with deliveries and I always have to email at least twice, usually 3 times, because it is evident from his response that he didn't understand what I told him.

How he got in that position, I'll never know. :eyes:

[Bucky]

37. Yes, I call them "students"

[TrogL]

38. CraftyGal

I tried to talk her through getting from the bus stop to my office. I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up in the air so I have line of sight.

CraftyGal: OK, I'm off the bus. Now what?
TrogL: Turn right.
CraftyGal: Which way's right?
TrogL: *sigh* I can see you from here. Turn any direction and I'll tell you if you're going the right way.
CraftyGal: *turns left* Like this?
TrogL: Your other right.
CraftyGal: Now what?
TrogL: Cross the street.
CraftyGal: But I don't know where I'm going.
Trogl: Right now, you're going across the street I'll tell you what to do after that.
CraftyGal: *upset* But I don't know where I'm going.
TrogL: You're going towards the big red brick building.
CraftyGal: Which big red brick building?
TrogL: The only red brick building within five blocks of you. It's right in front of you.
CraftyGal: *brightly* Oh, OK. NOW I'm know where I'm going. *marches down the street*
TrogL: Look up to your right.
CraftyGal: *suspiciously* Why?
TrogL: Because that's where I am. I'm waving.
CraftyGal: *crestfallen* You mean I'm not going to the big red brick building?
TrogL: No, you're going to the bigass yellow building across the street from it.
CraftyGal: *furious* But you said I was going to the big red brick building. Why did you lie to me?
Trogl: Because you couldn't see the yellow building from main street.
CraftyGal: *upset, furious, tantrum imminent* Ok, so how do I get to where you ACTUALLY ARE?!??!?!
TrogL: Errr...walk across the street to the yellow building?
CraftyGal: *tantrum* THEN WHAT!!!!!!?!??!
TrogL: Errr...take the elevator to the 21st floor?
CraftyGal: *meltdown* Why do you have to make this so complicated?
TrogL: I'm come get you.

All kidding aside, she doesn't have a good sense of direction, navigates by landmarks and doesn't like downtown at the best of times. I navigate by "dead reckoning" which drives her completely batshit.

[DS1]

40. Every time I see someone using the wrong link for photobucket

and it still posts anyway but you end up with the broken image icon immediately to its left I :mad: just a little bit

Ya'll people still fucking it up 6 months after the change suck at the intertubes.