Most overrated band. Seriously, let's call this The Luckiest Effing Band In Show Business Thread.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Poll question: Most overrated band. Seriously, let's call this The Luckiest Effing Band In Show Business Thread.

For the record, I love MOST of the bands on this list, but I knew if I didn't include them in the choices, they'd be added via "other."

:toast:

[MrCoffee]

1. Since The Doors weren't on the list, I voted prog

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. Since Prog has never been very highly rated, it's difficult to be overhyped.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

22. I saw Genesis on the "Seconds Out" tour...

...also known as the last gasp of Steve Hackett.

Here's what I came away with:

1). Genesis survived, and prospered, after Peter Gabriel's departure.

2). Steve Hackett was as much a part of the band's heart as Collins / Banks / Rutherford

3). Phil Collins is one of the greatest drummers alive

4). After Steve Hackett left Genesis, the band was basically worth jack shit.

:toast:

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. I gotta go with the Stones.

Yeah, they have staying power. Yeah, they early music kicked ass.

But, man, talk about a band living on their triumph of 40 years ago and never doing anything worth a shit in the between time - Jesus.

I don't understand their allure at all, except their first few albums.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

4. They are a certified "You Had To Be There" band.

I've gotta tell you, when "Jumpin' Jack Flash" spilled out of AM radio speakers across the USA, it was thrill time.

Like The Who's "I Can See For Miles"...like Mountain's "Mississippi Queen"...it's one thing to hear those songs NOW. It was another to hear them when they were new.

I basically signed a loyalty oath to the Stones for everything they released up to and including "Exile On Main Street," and put up with everything they released AFTER that.

Same for Led Zep. Page & Plant fans can wank all they'd like, but NO ONE is going to convince me that "In Through The Out Door" is anything other than a couple of hot moments wrapped in a Whole Lotta Crap.

:toast:

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. Yeah, 40 years ago.

That's my point.

Great band back then, and somewhere, along the line, they seem to have lost what they were.

But, maybe it's just me. I don't think they're awful by any means - they surely rock harder and with more integrity than 99% of the bands popular now, but they seem have totally lost what they used to be and become almost a self-parody.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

11. The self-parody comes in the form of...

...Mick trying to hit the notes on "Monkey Man" on THIS CD:



...and failing miserably.

There's a Keith Richards song on 1994's Voodoo Lounge..."Thru And Thru"...which was used VERY effectively over the end credits of a second-season Sopranos episode.

In 1975, you could gather up three or four Rolling Stones albums and make a KILLER mix cassette.

In 2008...looking only at the recent releases...a dozen Stones CDs might yield a good mix CD.

And you hit the nail on the head...in many ways they LOST it, but as Muddy Waters once sang, you can't lose what you never had.

They HAD it.

In the late sixties and early-to-mid seventies, the Stones absolutely had it.

:toast:

[DaDooRonRon]

23. Well, the question wasn't "over-rated as of 2008", was it?

Too many make the mistake of equating what a band was vs. what it is. It's frame of reference, dont'cha know? :)

Of course they have ridiculously overstayed their welcome, but that's all. They are a parody of themselves, and that is really sad, but I don't think anyone looks at the 2008 version with anything more than a pitiful stare.

Trust me, if you were walking around with a transistor radio to your ear in '65 and "Satisfaction" came out for the first time it was like nothing you had ever heard.

If that was the ONLY thing they ever did they would never be over-rated.

[hellbound-liberal]

21. Even though I enjoyed many songs after Exile on Main Street, I always thought the Stones were

overrated. I know they put on a helluva show, and maybe that is the measure of a great band, but I don't see that they put out any high quality stuff in their later years. On the other hand, one of my favorite Led Zeppelin albums is one of their later ones, Presence which,IMHO, contains no songs that suck unlike most of their other albums. In case you haven't seen or heard it lately, here is Achilles' Last Stand, one of their finer works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcW8F91dZO8

[Cant trust em]

57. I'm 27 years old. I'll never forget the first time I heard Exile

It knocked me out. Obviously I missed the whole 60's scene. I've never felt like any of those songs before 1973 felt dated. I guarantee that if a band released a song that had the intensity and energy that Jumpin' Jack Flash puts out they would be the newest buzz band.

[argyl]

85. "Jumpin'Jack Flash" really let us know that the forays into psychedelia,Victorian music

and using any instrument that caught their fancy were over.They stripped it down and just rocked.Hearing that one for the first time was like having all nerve endings flayed. A real scorcher.

[Initech]

91. I saw the Stones twice on their "A Bigger Bang" tour.

And I'm only 27 years old. That was quite possibly the best concert I've ever been to, with the most recent Tool show coming in a close second.

[TZ]

5. So you are the one with the poor taste:)

I love the Stones. I think they've done alot of good stuff even well into the eighties (I saw the Steel Wheels concert and happen to love that album).
Have you ever seen them live? Unbelievable. One of my all time favorite performers.

[Fuzz]

59. I have to go with the Stones too because they played the 'sound du jour'

They didn't start trends as much as follow them. Hell, they even made a freakin' disco album.

Sure, some of their songs kicked butt and they've been around a long time, but the only thing rock and roll about them is Keith's drug use. Mick's a corporate trend following wanker.

:)

[Bennyboy]

3. Phish...Although they are one of my all time favorites

had Jerry Garcia not died it is highly unlikely they would have become the biggest band in the US. Their music is just too weird for the masses to get really.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

10. I tried...really, really tried...to get into Phish. I failed.

Bennyboy, you and I have traded posts, so you know how I feel about the Dead, and Jerry in particular. In the past week I've watched the "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" and "View From The Vault IV" DVDs and thought what a LOSS...not just Jerry, but the views of Brent Mydland's photos of his kids taped to his keyboards while he sings "I Will Take You Home"...

The end of the Dead...and I'm not including any "Other Ones," "Phil Lesh & Friends," "Ratdog," "The Dead" configurations that followed...was too big of a void. Phish didn't fill it. They didn't come right out and say "We'll help you fill the void," but they didn't do a hell of a lot to keep others from saying it.

As a guitarist, I see Jerry in the same way that I saw Hendrix...Clapton...Jeff Beck...Neil Young...Jorma Kaukonen.

These guys did something that no one else had done.

They picked up their wire 'n' wood and cranked out something from INSIDE. They did the Star Trek thing in real life. They boldly went where no one etc. etc. etc...

Phish is a jam band. That's OK. But they've been on the receiving end of positive press that far outweighs their actual musical contribution.

To paraphrase Ian Hunter, "They ain't the Dead...they're just a buzz...some kinda TEMPORARY..."

:toast:

[Bennyboy]

36. Yeah they were not for everyone.....

But I dug the shit out of them and Trey is a GOD as far as guitar goes. Theri songs just did not grab you like the Dead's did (or some of the newer jambands).I always felt that Phish was about a 1,000 seat band.

[Fire Walk With Me]

7. Blaming King Crimson for Asia?

;)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

12. I thought the Fripp-Wetton-Bruford-Cross KC was GOD'S BAND.

I hung in a circle of friends who were KC fans.

On one THC-induced evening they put "Red" on the turntable.

All I've gotta say is that if John Wetton went from THAT to "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes," YES...

YES, I DO blame them.

:evilgrin:

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. No.

:7

[Amerigo Vespucci]

19. OK, let me rephrase that. WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP OUTSIDE?

:rofl:



:toast:

[flvegan]

9. Most overrated? Nirvana.

I wouldn't say "luckiest" as they did have talent. Just not that much.

[DarkTirade]

13. Them's fightin' words there...

:grr:

[pink-o]

24. I agree--put 'em up!

...and I'm OLD (53).

I love the stuff from the 90s, I was so happy to hear grunge, cuz it put Hair Metal to bed once and for all. Maybe Cobain didn't reach his potential, but neither did Jim Morrison (and 40 some years later, LA woman still sounds AMAZING!!! Give some time to "Teen Spirit").

What Nirvana did was open the door for some great bands in the 90s. I love Green Day, Live, Oasis, Pearl Jam, et al. Those guys are the real successors of 60s rock bands.

Too bad Alt Rock is all Fallout Boy and Panic! at the Disco right now (aren't they the same band, or am I just a grumpy old lady???) But music goes in and out. I remember back in 83, I was bitching because the Clash had broken up, and so had the Jam--to me music was boring and mind-numbing.

Then I heard "Thriller". 'Nuf said.

The good stuff will come back, as long as kids feel a need to express their deepest angst with a six-stringed piece of wood!

[DarkTirade]

28. I certainly wouldn't call Kurt the greatest musician in the world

but he poured his heart and soul into it, and for kids of my generation who reached that stage where we WANTED to just get up and DO something, like teenagers of every era... there was no big cause for us to stand behind. There was no war to protest. He gave voice to that.

In my case it's a little more personal. I was a fairly sheltered child. I'd never really been exposed to modern music. But the first rock music I heard that I realized I liked was Smells Like Teen Spirit.

It's a very simple song. I can play both the rhythm and solo part on guitar. Hell, I could probably even do both at the same time. It's that simple. :P But yet I've never played it all the way through, because I know I just can't do it justice. There's more to music than just playing the notes and singing the words. Personally, I put Nirvana up there with people like Shostakovic. They may have worked with very different mediums, but I defy you to listen to Shostakovic's 8th string quartet and not feel a bit of a connection to some of Nirvana's more emotional pieces. Or some of Shostakovic's symphonies, the ones where he was giving subtle barbs to his critics... very similar in feel to some of Nirvana's more sarcastic songs.

As far as the good stuff comin' back... I'm doing my part. If you know anybody in the upstate NY area with good taste in music who wants to start a band... I sing, write, and play bass and guitar. :) I kinda suck at writing lyrics, half of my stuff ends up sounding whiny and emo. But my music's pretty good.

[LoZoccolo]

86. I really love Oasis too. n/t

[Amerigo Vespucci]

16. When Cobain died...

...there was a quote in Rolling Stone from some college kid who said that "Kurt was my generation's John Lennon"...

...which pissed me off, and sounded like utter bullshit, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I think Kurt Cobain pretty much obliterated what might have been his "best" with that bullet to the brain.

He was a work in progress who chose to progress no further.

[DarkTirade]

26. The problem with that being

that there was a decent amount of evidence that pointed to the fact that Kurt may not have comitted suicide. But since the cops decided to wrap the case up quickly and leave it, we will never know for sure.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

30. Courtney certainly made an ass-load of profit from music she never created...

...and it all went in her arm and up her nose.

You're right...we'll never know. Maybe we're better off that way.

:toast:

[DarkTirade]

32. I'm referring to evidence at the scene

there were several discrepancies... I can't remember them all offhand, not being a conspiracy theory buff or anything, but even to someone as cynical as me it struck me as VERY suspicious.

[ghostsofgiants]

27. Yeah, Nirvana are really damn overrated.

I like them, but so overrated.

[DarkTirade]

31. I would reiterate my 'them's fightin' words'...

but since the first person I said that to could probably crush my head in his biceps, I probably won't be around to do much fightin' after that. :P

[ghostsofgiants]

34. Their music is enjoyable, but on the whole, pretty unoriginal...

They basically lifted their sound from Wipers and a few other bands.

[DarkTirade]

37. And the Pixies, ect. ect. They had a lot of influences

many of them very direct. And yes, there was a bit of luck in them rising to the top. But there was just something about them that grabbed the attention of thousands, and whatever that was, it sure as hell wasn't a slick marketing campaign.

I won't say that they were the 'best' band ever, despite my personal feelings for them. But I do honestly think that there was something really special there.

[ghostsofgiants]

40. Yes, Pixies, Killing Joke, etc.

They were a right place/right time band. They had catchy songs and a good looking singer with an edge. There was nothing really novel about them though, which is why I consider them overrated. I'm not by any means saying they were a bad band, there are plenty of good bands that aren't entirely novel, but they, nor Nirvana, really deserve that kind of adulation.

[DarkTirade]

43. See, I have to disagree there.

Despite the fact that they weren't the only band of that style, I do think there was something novel about them.

So I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree there. :)

I think we're allowed to do that in the lounge, it's only in GD and GDP that we have to scream at each other louder and louder with every comment as we disagree.

[LeftyMom]

83. If I didn't already want in your pants, I would now.

And the clones that followed almost made me want the shittiest spandex air guitar wankery of the mid-late 80's back.

[flvegan]

84. They all ripped off Mother Love Bone.

And Wiki sucks for not even including them.

[MrCoffee]

87. Amen, brother

A-fucking-men.

[Connonym]

100. They're definitely the most depressing band ever

I need to take supplemental Prozac if I have to listen to one of their songs

[redqueen]

15. Other: KISS

:puke:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

17. Marketing GENIUSES, questionable human beings, semi-talented "musicians"

Come AWWWWWWWWWN, RQ...you KNOW they know how to sell themselves. That doesn't make them bad or good, that simply sets them apart from bands that were ten times more talented but didn't have a CLUE of how to grab their share.

The current KISS...Simmons and Stanley with Tommy Thayer wearing Ace Frehley's makeup and Eric Singer pretending he's Peter "Catman" Criss...is an insult to fans.

And yet the fans line up to be insulted and turn over their hard-earned cash to Gene and Paul.

Marketing GENIUSES.

Human beings who truly SUCK.

:toast:

[redqueen]

18. All marketing / hype = OVERRATED.

Thanks for seconding my point. :)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

20. Yes, I'm the first to admit...

...I love a handful of KISS songs...especially "Detroit Rock City"...but the killer to crap ratio is EASILY 5% / 95%...

:toast:

[DaDooRonRon]

25. In the early 70's, KISS albums were mainstays of the "cut-out" bins

"Cut-out bins' were where LP's that didn't sell but were produced (for some reason) in mass quantities went to die - usually for $.99.

See, we knew back then. :)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

33. I had a friend who saw their first concert tour after they sold their souls to disco...

...and he said that Paul Stanley spent a considerable amount of time bitching about the halls they "used to" play in.

I stand by my comments regarding their marketing genius.

But as musicians?

Proof that if you give a monkey enough bananas, he'll squeeze out a solo.

:rofl:

[DarkTirade]

29. That's a good point.

They're a band that's basically made up of hype. They weren't bad, but they're much more showmen than musicians. Not sure if that still makes them overrated though... just means they got their rated-ness from a source other than the music itself. :P

[Maestro]

38. I completely agree

KISS is a band I never have liked.

[ghostsofgiants]

35. Shit, so hard to choose.

I want to say The Beatles because it's become almost a prerequisite when saying you are into music to like them. Yeah, their music is good. Quite good. But not THAT good. But like I said, so hard to choose. Any band that you see posters of in a typical college kid's dorm room tends to have that air of overratedness to me.

[Guava Jelly]

39. The Offspring

Man they suck!

[ghostsofgiants]

41. Smash and Ixnay on the Hombre were pretty decent albums, but they went downhill from there.

They were never hugely considered an amazing band or anything though.

[Guava Jelly]

44. I may have misread the topic

The guys voice just makes me cringe

[DarkTirade]

42. They've certainly had popularity...

but do you actually know anyone who thinks they're the greatest band ever or anything like that? :P Most people I know who like them just like them and that's that. They don't claim that they're great, they just happen to like some of their music.

[Guava Jelly]

45. yeah yeah

They just come to my mind when I think sucky..Them and Jackyl :D

[DarkTirade]

46. Well, this thread isn't asking what the suckiest popular band is...

just the most overrated. And I don't think they're rated high enough to make it to the top of the overrated list. :P

[ghostsofgiants]

47. By overrated, I don't think we're talking about bad bands, per se...

But bands that aren't as good as people pretend they are.

[Iris]

48. I vote for Cold Play. What's a "prog legend"? Prom legend?

????

[ghostsofgiants]

49. Prog legend = Wildly popular progressive rock band

And Coldplay are boring as fuck.

[Iris]

50. yes. I once heard one of their albums described as "a new release you AND your grandma can enjoy!"

[DarkTirade]

51. I think I can re-use the description my brother came up with for Creed a while back

and it'll fit with Coldplay fairly well.

They have a good *insert rock genre here* sound, but they use that sound to make elevator music. :)

[ghostsofgiants]

52. We might disagree about Nirvana, but we're on the same page for this one, haha.

[DarkTirade]

53. I have something shameful to admit.

I own the first two Creed CDs. :(

Come to think of it, I probably should have mentioned that on my recent thread asking 'is there anything in your record collection that you're ashamed of'. But I forgot I had 'em. Selective amnesia maybe? :P

I do like Creed's sound for the most part. I only bought the second CD because I hoped it would have improved on the first... unfortunately they seemed to gather more and more suck as they went along.

[ghostsofgiants]

54. I liked Creed's sound when I was like 13...

I think that's when "My Own Prison" came out. Then I quickly grew out of it, haha. The whole watered down post-grunge sound never appealed to me beyond that.

[DarkTirade]

56. Yeah, 'bout the same here.

Scott Stapp's little sister went to my high school. She was kinda cute, but not my type. :P

[ghostsofgiants]

60. Even then I realized that they were really just a crappy Pearl Jam wannabe.

As much as I knock Nirvana for lifting their sound from Wipers and Kiling Joke and Pixies, at least they weren't just an entirely obivious knockoff and they actually wrote good music.

On that note, I got bored of Pearl Jam a while ago as well. They're another band I'd consider pretty overrated, haha. Not a bad band, of course, I've even seen them live, but I dunno, I just don't get the hubbub.

[DarkTirade]

61. Yeah, I liked their sound way back when

and to some extent I still enjoy listening to them... but they never really struck me as anything too original. Good sound, decent music, but they didn't have that little extra something that I hear in Nirvana. :P

[ghostsofgiants]

64. I'll take Nirvana over Pearl Jam...

They're more raw, I guess, for lack of a better term.

[xmas74]

62. I'll second the "boring as fuck" comment.

I only listen to them when I'm quite sick and need some sleep. A double dose of Nyquil and A Rush of Blood to the Head will knock your ass out in 15 minutes or less.

[ghostsofgiants]

65. There's much better music you could be relaxing to you know.

:P

[DarkTirade]

67. And much less painful ways to be rendered unconscious...

I'm thinking frying pan to the head maybe... :P

[xmas74]

69. I didn't say I wanted to relax.

I put on Coldplay when I know I need to sleep and I just can't do it.

If it were good music I'd stay awake. Coldplay puts me to sleep out of pure boredom.



(Oh, and I've made a new friend IRL who is a huge David Lynch fan.)

[ghostsofgiants]

72. Nice. I wish I knew David Lynch fans outside of the internet, haha.

[xmas74]

78. We are a very small

but proud community.

It's a cause for celebration when you meet another one.

(On edit-if you're still around. Need some viewing for tonight, since I've sworn off the Nyquil for Lent. I'm at archive.org and can't decide if I should watch Dementia 13 or Nosferatu. I've watched both many times but am not sure what sounds better tonight.)

[Cant trust em]

55. It's a very close call between Van Halen and the Prog movement

[BeachBaby]

58. Jethro Tull

Don't stand on a stage calling yourself a rock band while playing a flute, and expect anyone to take you seriously.

[Inchworm]

63. Wha?!

:wow:

[DarkTirade]

66. Heh, I'm afraid you can't just pick and choose which instruments are 'rock' and which ones aren't.

If heavy metal can be played on the cello, then 70s rock can be played on the flute. :P

*edit* Let me add that I'm not a fan of Jethro Tull, although I did see them in concert once. They opened for another show I went to.

One that I'm ashamed to admit that I went to. I was only there because my GF at the time was a fan.

[Rabrrrrrr]

68. I can tolerate many kinds of disagreements, especially about art, but not this one.

To dis Jethro Tull is to dis Mozart, Beethoven, Rembrandt, Shakespeare, Thomas Jefferson, Newton, Buddha, and Jesus Christ.

[DarkTirade]

70. Rembrandt sucks!

I keed, I keed. :P

[ghostsofgiants]

75. Didn't they play that shitty theme song for Friends?

:P

[Inchworm]

71. LoL

That's what I'm sayin.. and the flutebashing...

:rofl:

[DarkTirade]

73. Personally I've never had issues with the flute...

but so far in my life the only girl that ever rejected me was a floutist...

Although she was also a violist... hmm... I wonder which had more bearing on the fact that she rejected a violinist... :P

[BeachBaby]

76. I'm not bashing flutes.

Hell, I played 1st string flute section in my college symphony. Nothing wrong with flutes.

Something horribly wrong with a man playing a flute and calling himself a rock star.

It holds about as much credibility as Bush claiming he's a Christian. :)

[DarkTirade]

77. For the most part I agree with you.

But every now and then you'll find an exception, which is why I can't agree with your original statement. :)

[Rabrrrrrr]

74. PLUS the fact that Tull has never been hyped to begin with,

they've never had the radio play they deserve, they've never had the grammies, accolades, and professional recognition they deserve -

that alone precludes them from the overhyped category.

What is overhyped is every flash in the pan, faddish, pop star piece of shit that consistently and constantly got 800 million times more press coverage in their 2 year career than Tull has had their entire 45 year juggernaut of artistic brilliance.

Ask any standard piece of shit American who britney spears, celine dion, beyonce, kenny g, billy joel, shania twain, or any other pop star is and 90% will know the name; ask any standard piece of shit American who Jethro Tull, Yes, King Crimson, Brian Eno, Robert Fripp, Frank Zappa, or any other real musician is, and maybe - on a good day - you'll get 1% who know.

That is, by definition, billions of light years away from "overhyped".

[lightningandsnow]

79. U2.

I like one or two of their songs... but they are very overrated.

[DarkTirade]

80. I kind of agree there.

I like some of their stuff... but they've got sooooo much other stuff that I listen to and say :wtf:? This isn't nearly as good.

They're one of the few bands who get their good songs played on the radio, as opposed to most rock bands who get one song on the radio, and after that whoever's in charge only puts out the ones that sound just like that first hit on the radio. There are a few bands out there who I thought were boring and repetitive, until I actually heard the stuff that didn't make it onto the radio and I realized they're actually pretty good. :P U2 is the opposite. They got lucky and their good interesting stuff made it on the radio... so the rest of the stuff we haven't heard is the stuff that isn't as good.

[pokerfan]

81. How can Lynyrd Skynyrd be included in this list?

Having your plane crash when your band is at its peak sounds pretty unlucky to me.

[Bennyboy]

82. All the votes for the Grateful Dead but nobody posts....HMMMMM?

That is funny as hell. One thing the GD was not is lucky. They were who they were and did not give a flying fuck about anything else. The critics hated them, the public did not even know about them other than three songs and the press pretty much ignored them.

But thanks for playing.

[darkstar]

92. Yeah...and in addition

part of the thing that their fans loved about them and kept them coming back for more was that The Dead "dared to suck" which meant they sometimes did. Slow, slow and slower songs back to back and 10-12 minutes long each; trainwrecks of jams where every one gets hopelessly lost and out of sync for a moments (minutes); words forgotten being a better thing because the harmonies are way off that night. Yep. The Dead.

Deadheads like them, but nobody in the general culture seems to care for them, as opposed to someone who may not own a LZ or Van Halen or Clapton record but go along with the general consensus and put them in the R&R pantheon.

The Dead are loved warts and all by their fans. Those past a certain age don't even bother trying to argue w/ their Stone's loving friends that the GD are underrated, were the best American band ever, etc. It's just so not about that, nor is it Jerry worship. It's just that to our tastes, from time to time, there would be songs, jams, brief moments that seemed impossibly good from this rag tag bunch of guys who we all knew could suck so bad.

[Bennyboy]

95. Dare to suck!

I am listening to the Field Trip show right now from 72 Veneta Oregon. Killer. Give it a whirl http://stash.nugs.net/attics/720827_mp3.asp?artist=1&show=246&cmd=shows

[darkstar]

96. Oh man, I've got Veneta.

I hope you get what I meant. You only achieve heights if you're willing to fall. If you insist in having 125 songs in your active repertoire, and and only play 24 a night, you'll step in it sometimes. Likewise going out on a limb jam wise, you have to be prepared to falter from time to time b/c you are making it up on the spot from group mind. But that's the genius, the crucible that can sometimes fizzle, but to us fans, more often produces real magic.

I mean, if Tom Petty tried to intro a song he hadn't played for 9 years by soundchecking it a time or two over the preceding weeks, wouldn't there be a good chance of someone getting lost? You bet. But Petty doesn't take that chance. That's just not his thing. Likewise, it's not U2's thing to say, "Edge, take this new song out in a minor key jam tonight and see if we can't somehow find our way into one of our classics; it doesn't matter which one; the guys will follow you or maybe point the way themselves if we all just listen closely enough." Again, just ain't gonna happen.

That's why we love these guys. Right? No one else incorporated that degree of "seat of your pants in front of 20K people" and they never will again. That's some kind of authenticity. Add in the fact that Jerry just seems to touch souls in *some* people, you've got magic.

:hi:

[triguy46]

88. What about Dino, Desi and Billy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE7GV0YogR8

[Tektonik]

89. PEARL JAM

[General Zod]

90. The Eagles

No comment necessary.

[Initech]

93. Nickelback

How the hell can this boring generic piece of shit band be popular?

[DarkTirade]

94. Yeah, I think could almost fit my generic description for Creed and Coldplay too

except that their sound isn't even that good... :P Decent, but not good.

[Initech]

97. Creed sucks, there's no contest there.

I'm not much of a fan of Coldplay either. But Creed, Scott Stapp is one of music's biggest douchebags.

[DarkTirade]

99. Which is unfortunate, because they did have a good alternative sound

at first. But they used it to make elevator music.

[GoneOffShore]

98. Arcade Fire - Total Hosers n/t