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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:10 PM
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9/25 Midday Update On Stacey... I'm Getting Anxious Again.
Though the doc says he's still encouraged and that I should look at the bigger picture, and that the bigger picture is that she's hanging in there and still heading in the right direction, I find myself a bit anxious and scared again this morning.

The good is that they have lowered her remaining BP medication even further and her bp is doing quite well. They also said her ventilator settings have been lowered a bit and she's doing well with that as well.

What was discouraging to me is that her Kidney creatinine level has now gone up to 2.1, and they actually said the words acute renal failure. I guess it isn't that much worse than yesterday's 1.7, but I wish it wouldn't go up. I guess it's expected though, with what she's going through right now. They have a renal team looking after her and at this point though they're concerned, as would be expected, it isn't any imminent threat type of concern. Just still something they're keeping their eyes on.

They also told me she had a fever again this morning, but that it was only 100.4 and has since gone back down. They didn't seem overly concerned about it.

Her white blood cell count dropped again. It went from 1.8 yesterday to 1.1 this morning. Her neutrophil count went from 1.6 to .875. They said not to fixate on those numbers, and that it could just be dilution from the fluids she's getting etc. Still though, I wish they had gone up, and not down.

They are stopping the feeding tube for a bit because her stomach was getting backed up. They said this isn't really overly concerning as well.

Their take is that she's doing well, and that 3 steps forward and 2 steps back is still forward progress. They tell me she's hanging in there and that they're encouraged that her BP is holding strong and her oxygen/blood gases are doing well.

I feel good about that as well, but I'm still sitting here just so anxious anyway, cause I just can't take day after day of the infection not being fought off yet. She has an adenovirus pneumonia and I know those can be really dangerous in immunosuppressed patients, with a documented mortality of over 50%, from things I've been reading. That covers a lot of different types of patients though, so I'm still holding onto hope she will be one of the 40 somethin percent.

I'm just still so scared but more anxious then anything. I know she's still really sick and though there are indications she's hanging in there strong, I'm just so anxious to hear that she's fighting it off already. That just simply isn't occurring yet. So day by day, with each day going by like a week, is I guess where we're at. The kidney thing bothers me a bit, but I also know they are keeping a close eye on it.

I probably shouldn't have read up on the whole adenovirus pneumonia thing. Kinda scared me a bit. But I do feel relieved that her bp is holding strong as is her breathing, so I just have to force myself to be patient. But holy cow are some of these days tough to just get through. I want this resolved already, but I guess it's going to keep going on for a while. It's mental torture at its max. But I just have to keep faith that she'll continue to hang in there, and that after a few more days she'll fight it back. I almost wish they could just knock my ass out for a week, to relieve this anxiety.

But that's it for now really. I'll post more if anything changes, but for now the mentally challenging waiting game continues.

Man I hate being patient. It's not exactly my strong suit.

Thanks as always,

OMC

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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:14 PM
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1. BIG HUGS
:pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug: :pals: :grouphug:
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:53 AM
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57. Doctors tend not to sugarcoat at this stage.
If they're overall attitude is that she's taking three steps forward, but two steps back, that is a good sign!

I'm so sorry she has that nasty beast - breast cancer, but she can still beat this thing. Yes, she can. Hold on to hope.

My prayers are with you.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:14 PM
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2. Thanks for the update
please stay strong. For her, for your kids, for yourself. I am confident that she is feeling your support and that it gives her strength as well.

:hug:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:19 PM
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3. I am still sending you my vibes and prayers
OMC, just stay positive. Just keep thinking that she WILL get through this; just plan and live your life as if you know she's coming home soon. The anxiety will prey on you otherwise. :grouphug: for you and your wife!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:28 PM
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4. I will keep the good vibes coming.
:-)
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:33 PM
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5. thanks for the update. more prayers, vibes, healing thoughts on the way.
stay strong OMC.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:34 PM
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6. Thanks for the update today, OMC.
I know some of the news sounds discouraging,
but she is making progress.
That's what counts.

Hang in there, don't be so hard on yourself.

You have been holding up remarkably well
under the stress and pressure you've gone through.


More good vibes from the West Coast---
---transmitting---------------------

:hug:
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:35 PM
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7. GOOOOD VIBES to you.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:43 PM
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8. OMC, re-read what you wrote...
The medical team is encouraged and doesn't regard the problems you report as being critical. You yourself have said this isn't the sort of situation where dramatic improvement is going to take place in a day or two -- like it or not, this is a long-haul matter.

If Stacey's health had really taken a critical turn, the doctors would have let you know. If they think patience is the name of the game, regard that as solid medical judgement. Personally, although I'm not a doctor, I think that, if this was going to be an illness from which there was to be no recovery, Stacey would not have survived this long. Just by the fact that she has survived, every day makes the situation more hopeful.

Meanwhile, please make sure you take care of yourself -- get adequate sleep and healthy food. As you pointed out earlier, your own condition influences your mood and where you stand on the hopeful/despairing axis. Keep yourself strong, because Stacey will need you when she gets back home and has to continue her chemo treatment.

:grouphug:

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:48 PM
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9. BUN and creatinine levels are only part of the picture.
My dad bounced back several times from high creatinine levels and the doctors were convinced he was in acute renal failure. Stacey is a heckuva lot stronger than he was.

Hang in there. We're all pulling for you.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:52 PM
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10. Thoughts, prayers, good vibes, positive vibes and healing energy
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 12:53 PM by socialdemocrat1981
to Stacey and to your family as always:hug: :hug: :hug: I know that progress can be agonizingly slow and I know how frustrated and worried you are but hang in there and keep thinking positive thoughts of recovery and healing. And we will do the same:hug:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:54 PM
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11. No fear No fear No fear
Don't go into fear, OMC--you've conquered the rough road and are coasting now! :hug:

What the doctors said was overwhelmingly positive--if they're not concerned with these little glitches, then there's no need for you to be either. I truly believe your wife (who is breathtakingly beautiful, BTW) will come out of this just fine. DU SAYS SO! :P
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:19 PM
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40. Good advice, well said
Its no fun on the emotional roller-coaster, but as the docs say, she's still improving. Its amazing how much a body can take and still recover.

If reading stuff makes you worry more, then give yourself a break from it. There's plenty to make you laugh here on DU.



:hug: :hug: :hug:
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 01:00 PM
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12. It makes all the sense in the world that you are still concerned. Stacey is still in there fighting
as are you.
From what the doctors are saying, the signs are moving in good directions and there is reason to remain optimistic..but of course you would still be concerned, as we all are.
We are all still here...sending the good vibes and hopes and prayers for all the good things to happen as soon as possible.

Thanks for taking the time to keep us updated.


:grouphug: :thumbsup:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 01:00 PM
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13. OMC, hang on to the hope as tightly as you can.
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 01:01 PM by SeattleGirl
I know what it's like, being suspended between hope and despair, but try, if you can, to focus on the good news as much as possible.

And as others have said, take care of yourself too. I know it's not easy, but do your best. You matter, too, and Stacey needs you.

Continued prayers for all of you.

:grouphug:

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 01:06 PM
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14. Thanks for the update and a couple of points
I wouldn't worry about the kidney thing unless her temperature really spikes. As it is at a tolerable level she should be okay. Hopefully additional fluids should lower those levels as well.
Now about her blood counts. I have a chronic blood disorder related to leukemia. I sometimes take a chemotherapeutic agent to control an overabundance of platelets. At times some of my blood counts have been very low (I think at one point my neutrophils were almost ZERO) and I have felt perfectlly normal and walked and worked. Its also possible since her immune system is suppressed because of the chemo that her numbers aren't going to get too high anyway, and that its possible that they dropped some because her infection is getting better?
From what I know from your post I think you should be encouraged. And while I approve of people educating themselves reading about the various possibilities of her infection on the internet might not be the best thing for you right now, mentally.
Cheers and good wishes to your family.
BTW, if you want to ask a biology question feel free to PM me, and while not a doctor I have worked some in immunology and would be happy to either answer you directly or find a good answer.:hug:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 01:36 PM
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15. We're here for you...
:hug::hug::hug::hug:
Keeping Stacey in my thoughts and prayers...
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 01:47 PM
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16. "Their take is that she's doing well,". OK! That's what you focus on. And...
stay off the internet sites that cite mortality statistics. They are RARELY reliable indicators. You'll drive yourself nuts pouring through all those stats, when they have very little to do with Stacey.

She is young and she is strong.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 04:59 PM
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25. Amen, it sounds like a lot more positive than negative. Hang in there OMC, lots of people praying
for you, hoping, focusing, meditating, etc. I'd say those lounge vibes are a lot more powerful than most people think. She'll be home before you know it.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 02:13 PM
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17. Focus on what you
have some control over. Hang in there, stay positive and stay with her as much as you can. :hug:

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 03:38 PM
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18. Big hugs to you and your wife, OMC
:hug: :grouphug: :hug: That's definitely encouraging news that she's improving, but I can certainly understand you feeling anxious about how slowly it's going. :hug: I'm continuing to send good vibes, thoughts, and prayers her way - thanks for keeping us posted! :pals: Peace.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 03:58 PM
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19. hang in there
Listen FOR the positive that the doctors are giving you and don't do any more medical research - leave that to the professionals. The only reading you should be doing is the words of support being offered, and the bedtime stories you read to your kids.

Thinking of you and Stacey and the kids. :hug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 04:07 PM
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20. You're right, you should not have read all that...
:pals:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 04:13 PM
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21. She's hanging on, you can too.
Maybe you need to listen to her song again. ;)

You're doing a great job, keep taking care of you so you can be there for her and the kids.

I'm keeping the good vibes coming. :hug:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 04:17 PM
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22. Thank you
and :hug: you are so strong!
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 04:26 PM
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23. The doctors think she's doing well
that's FANTASTIC----hang in there, with much love from just another DUer.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 04:34 PM
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24. Hang in there OMC
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 05:01 PM
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26. Stay positive OMC!! I know this is SO hard on your mind and your heart
But Stacey is fighting and that is what matters most.

My prayers are with stacey and your entire family
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:24 PM
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27. Please hang in there, OMC. Also, get rest.
You can't fight alongside Stacey if you don't get some rest.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:34 PM
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28. Well, we're all here to help be both you and your wife's cheer squad.
We are pulling for the both of you.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:38 PM
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29. Still sending lots of light and healing energy to Stacey.
I wish that I could help you with your pain, OMC. :(

:hug:

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:39 PM
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30. It's impossible I know, but try to get away from the hospital and get a good night's sleep.
You need to keep your strength up or else you won't be able to processs all the information you're getting.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:39 PM
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31. It's impossible I know, but try to get away from the hospital and get a good night's sleep.
You need to keep your strength up or else you won't be able to processs all the information you're getting.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:12 PM
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32. You and your family are still in my thoughts and prayers
I hope that she continues to heal. Take care of yourself.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:23 PM
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33. Don't obsess about the numbers
They're going to vary a bit, even when she's improving. That her blood pressure and blood gases are good is a really hopeful sign.

We're all pulling for you and Stacey here. Remember that it's important to take care of yourself as well. Your family will need you in the weeks to come. :hug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:26 PM
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34. "Bother" us with these messages any time you want to. Given the Hell you're going through,
there is NO limit to the number of times you can vent and ask for support.

I believe I speak for all DUers in saying this.

And if you want an email address or a phone number for one-on-one support, no matter how much of it you need, you can get that from me with a simple PM.

You and I can get back to calling each other names after she pulls through this. Until then, you have my unconditional offer of whatever support you need. You want to send your kids here to stay with us for a while to escape the stress? Just say the word. Anything else? It's yours.

God damn, son, I wish I had more than words to offer.

Redstone
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:51 PM
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36. What Redstone says....
goes for me too.

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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:32 PM
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48. Likewise.
Any way I can help, just say the word OMC.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:21 PM
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41. Yep, we're here for you
Lay your burdens down in the Lounge and walk away from them for a while...
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:54 AM
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55. I check every day for an update.
So keep posting.

There are a lot of people here who care about you and your wife.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:43 PM
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35. thinking healing thoughts for your wife
:hug:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:52 PM
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37. Thanks so much for the update.
I know this must be excruciating, but try to hang on the positives. If the docs are positive, you should be, too, because they always play things a little cool in my experience. It sounds like you have a really good team, too, with the nurses as well as the docs. I'm glad she's wanting to hear her song...she knows it's helping her fight. You are helping her fight, too, and you're doing a great job!

Take care and keep us posted, as much as you can..we are all anxious to hear. If you get a chance, you might check out the candle thread, and go to the DU section to see the candles lit for you and Stacey. Feel the love, it's all around you...DU at its very best.
:hug:
xoxoxox
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:05 PM
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38. Listen to the doctor....
He's sounding positive...looking at the big picture....Please don't burden yourself with medical research....It can only bring on undue fear. Stay in the now. Get rest and take care of yourself....
Being strong is difficult, and you are showing amazing strength...

Some day you will look back on this and wonder how you made it through ....I know, as I've been there.....
You're doing fine...she's slowly healing...coming back to you...

Thank you for the updates...
The prayers are still flowing...

peace~
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 09:46 PM
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43. good advice. i've been there, too. Love and more love.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:05 PM
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39. thanks for the update, UMC-- we're all still hoping with you....
:hug:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:53 PM
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42. Positive visualization, my good man.
I know it's hard, but it will help.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 09:51 PM
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44. Please, don't do anymore online research right now.
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 09:54 PM by mcscajun
I know the impulse to know something, anything, is overwhelming, but I guarantee all you'll find are things to make you crazy. Nothing online tells the story of Stacey and what her doctors know. Every patient, every PERSON, is unique and nothing you're going to find online will have all the details that match your loving wife's situation. So the answers won't fit.

Thanks for the update. Still holding good thoughts for Stacey and You.
:hug:

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:19 PM
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47. I approve of this message.
It does more harm than good.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:44 PM
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49. Third second to this post
Stop reading, and keep thinking postively. She's hanging in, making progress, focus on that.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:46 PM
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50. You're Right. I'm The Type That Likes To Learn Everything I Can About Stuff.
That way, I'm informed, prepared, and can take part competently in medical decisions while weighing risks. It also helps me know what I'm dealing with, what to expect, and other steps can be done. I'm a very analytical person by nature, so that's just what I like to do.

But I agree with you that in this case, for these reasons, I shouldn't seek out any more. She's in good hands and I just have to be patient and wait. Giving my mind additional stressors and fear, on top of what it already has, is just counterproductive and not something I want to do to myself again tomorrow.

So I will heed your advice, since you're absolutely right.

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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:08 PM
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45. We're hanging in there with you, OMC.
These things go like that--no straight lines in the short term. I know it's nerve-wracking, and we'll be here for you. Stay strong, and remember that you can always, ALWAYS come here. :hug:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:16 PM
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46. Will be praying.
:hi: Best regards, CBH
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:04 AM
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51. Please don't get discouraged.
Our bodies are amazing machines and we forget that they are working all the time and may need to slow down for a while. We all are hoping that tomorrow brings some more positive changes.

You be sure to take care of yourself, too.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:43 AM
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52. Thanks For The Update
I'll keep up the good thoughts and prayers. Hang in there you two.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:30 AM
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53. Just checking in
and offering another hug :hug: and a reminder that we're all pulling for you, Stacey and the kids. I hope you have gotten some rest - that will help you to be strong for your family. And, speaking of strong, don't forget that despite the fact that you want to be strong for Stacey and the kids, you don't have to be strong for anyone else. Surround yourself with people who love you, and who offer big shoulders for you to cry on. :hug:
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:33 AM
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54. Thanks for the update, OMC
We're all still here for you - she's obviously a fighter and has great odds in the adenoviral pneumnia stakes - she's young, which makes a hell of a difference. :hug:
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:45 AM
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56. Words are not enough...
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:07 AM
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58. I have the picture of your beautiful wife printed out and on my desk - I envision her healthy every
time I look at it.

Hang in there, OMC - we're with you.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:15 AM
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59. We're all with you, bro
The vibes will keep coming from this end :hug:
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:47 AM
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60. Stacey is surrounded by our thoughts and prayers
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=DU

OMC, it's your job to stay strong right now. Don't let poison get to you, and don't go looking for it either. Leave it be.
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