I have to say, I am So Over "YouTube." YouTube is so Last Year.

[Up2Late]

It was fun for a while, but it is getting SO LAME now, and it's not just because so many "main stream" people are "discovering" YouTube, it pages like this: <http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=47D12D6C8A7AA14C>

It looks like all but ONE of these old, 1980's Rap videos have been taken down. How many of the video do you figure ever get played anymore on MTV or wherever? And besides, the original purpose of a Music Video was to promote records and bands! Why take down a PR tool?:mad:

[Gelliebeans]

1. I have to agree

everything good is yanked off immediately. By the time I get around to viewing something it has been long gone off the internets. :rofl:

[Richard Steele]

2. Yup. Without the stuff they're yanking, what's the point?

YouTube was some AMAZING free advertising for the
owners of the "copyrighted content".

The last martial-arts action flic I watched on
pay-per-view had come and gone at the theatres
without appealing to me...The commercials didn't
make it look like anything special to me.
But then someone in the Lounge posted a YouTube
link to a clip, and I said, "I gotta see this".
So I did. ("The Protector", BTW, and I recommend it.)

You'd think that everyone involved would be HAPPY
about that sort of thing.....

[SoDesuKa]

3. Revenue Stream

They seem to be taking away the reason to watch YouTube. Is there a revenue stream in driving customers away?

[Norrin Radd]

4. Whenever you see something you like,

save it to your computer by using a Firefox extension like DownloadHelper: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

[Shipwack]

6. Thanks! You -really- rock... nt

:headbang:

[Norrin Radd]

19. My pleasure to help!

[ClintonTyree]

8. Which is why I turned to Firefox and turned off IE....

well, one of the MANY reasons. I've been using Firefox for about 6 months now and I'll never use anything else.

[Norrin Radd]

20. Yep. The constant spyware from using IE was enough for me to switch back

to a Netscape browser.

[sam sarrha]

5. wait till you have to watch a commercial before your video runs...

[The Sushi Bandit]

7. Jump in a FRICKIN Lake!

You tube is STILL the best new media around!

[Jeroen]

9. I think George Allen would agree ;-) n/t

[TheBaldyMan]

10. and the poolitical censorship has went way over the top too

a lot of my subscriptions are pulled for 'copyright infringement'

MIKEHUNTdotTV and radicalresponse have went down the YouTube recently. Both were a little too radical for the RW spammers.

[Oilwellian]

11. Hmmmm

It's one of the few places where the revolution is being televised. I'll continue to be a supporter and participant.

[rman]

12. There are other uses for youtube besides music videos, perhaps?

There are lots and lots of interesting political clips on youtube.

[kiahzero]

13. It's not YouTube's fault.

If the copyright owner submits a takedown notification, YouTube has no choice but to pull it unless the uploader submits a takedown reply.

[HughBeaumont]

14. I very rarely visit it anymore.

There's no point.

Nothing can be about fun anymore. It's all about cash, cash, CASH.

I pretty much knew six months ago that it would only be a matter of time before everything gets yanked. What I don't get is this: if I'm paying for high-speed internet (which I am) then most likely I'm also paying for digital cable. Viacom, Universal/NBC and Time/Warner are getting their money somehow, whether through subscription or advertisements, so why the fuck does it matter WHERE I watch a video? You're getting your money, so who cares? Not only that, they're getting their damned money moreso than they did in the 80s when they DID play videos.

And they'd better not even give me this sobstory bullshit that it cheats the artists, like they care so much about them. With the music/entertainment conglomerates, it's all about them and to hell with all you little people, including the artists who did nothing but MAKE the music.

[ghostsofgiants]

15. Those companies fuck over artists whether we watch YouTube videos or download shit or not.

I forget the magazine, but I saw a breakdown once of where the money from the sale of a CD goes and the artist gets one of the smallest, if not the smallest, portions of that money. They don't give a fuck about the artists. I've said it before and I'll say it again, capitalism and art don't mix.

[HughBeaumont]

16. This Steve Albini article says it all.

http://www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/problemwithmusic.html

I think they get THE smallest portion. There's more drama even with sub-majors like Victory and how they raped Hawthorne Heights to the tune of mid-six figures just to get out of their contract, even though they made Victory records an assload of cash.

Why even bother signing with ANYone nowadays? It seems no matter who you sign with, it's almost guaranteed that 125% of your money is going to get legally stolen from you, if that makes any sense. Just put your own stuff out. Sure, it means less sales, but it also means you won't be getting surgeoned by suits.

[ghostsofgiants]

18. I was thinking of linking that article as well, haha.

Yeah, I've heard nothing good about Tony Brummel's operation of Victory.

[idgiehkt]

21. Courtney Love does a great breakdown of it in this article

as far as illegal downloading, and it can be applied to youtube as well. She really gives the record companies hell in this article.

I quoted the first few paragraphs below, it's a long article, but it just gets better. The bands are being completely screwed. It drives me nuts that those old videos are being yanked because, because of youtube, people will remember the music, download it and put it on their I-pod. Without youtube, those artists are forgotten. It's infuriating.


http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/print.html

"This story is about a bidding-war band that gets a huge deal with a 20 percent royalty rate and a million-dollar advance. (No bidding-war band ever got a 20 percent royalty, but whatever.) This is my "funny" math based on some reality and I just want to qualify it by saying I'm positive it's better math than what Edgar Bronfman Jr. would provide.

What happens to that million dollars?

They spend half a million to record their album. That leaves the band with $500,000. They pay $100,000 to their manager for 20 percent commission. They pay $25,000 each to their lawyer and business manager.

That leaves $350,000 for the four band members to split. After $170,000 in taxes, there's $180,000 left. That comes out to $45,000 per person.

That's $45,000 to live on for a year until the record gets released...." (much more at link)

[Blue_Tires]

17. yeah, its getting to be a pita

i hate the content filters, too -- they took down one of my favorite scenes from 'Raging Bull' ("Bring it over here!! It's like a piece of charcoal!!!!")

[swag]

22. Here's a great clip of the Stranglers doing "Tank"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNH3Vjz44Hs

[ghostsofgiants]

23. Nice.