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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:07 PM
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Is there any criminal history in your family
My great-grandfather was a VERY successful bootlegger.

As for myself, I particpated in extorsion, but I was only 7 and I thought it was a play.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:11 PM
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1. Yes. A couple cousins did jail time for drug stuff and one for...
kidnapping. Or as we put it in my family, "the guy owed him money, so he stole the guy." Things are very colorful on my dad's side of the family.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:27 PM
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2. We're related to the man who first used the insanity defense
and got off murdering Francis Scott Key's son Barton...

"In his pre- and post-Civil War careers, as well as during the conflict, Daniel E. Sickles proved to be one of the most controversial of Union corps commanders. Prewar, the New York City native had already become the first man acquitted of a murder charge on the grounds of temporary insanity. Sickles, a congressman, shot down Philip Barton Key-the son of the composer of the "Star Spangled Banner"-in LaFayette Park,across the street from both Sickles' home and the White House. Key had been having an affair with Sickles' wife, whom Sickles had married while serving as secretary of the U.S. legation in London. Defense attorney Edwin M. Stanton gained the innovative verdict. Sickles then publicly forgave his wife, outraging the public, which had applauded his role in the shooting, and apparently ending his political career. just then the Civil War broke out and he saw his chance to get a new start."

more here: http://www.civilwarhome.com/sicklesbio.htm

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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:33 PM
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3. Myself
Marijuana dealing and a DUI in my younger days.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:36 PM
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4. I once shot a man in Reno
just to watch him die.

Wait, no. . . .That wasn't me.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:17 AM
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40. That was the Man In Black
Amen
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:44 PM
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5. My great-great grandfather was a horse thief
and was killed at the OK Corral. He's buried at Boot Hill in Tombstone, Ariz.

If you heard the name, you might know it — especially if you've seen "My Darling Clementine." (He was played by John Ireland.)
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:08 PM
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11. What was his name?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:49 PM
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6. Yes, I have a brother who has been in and out of prison
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 01:51 PM by RebelOne
since he was a teenager. And my ex-husband was a moonshine runner but never was caught at it.

Oh, forgot to mention that one of my ancestors was Edward Teach (Blackbeard).
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:56 PM
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7. herb smokin
:shrug:
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 02:26 PM
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8. grandpa had a still out in the woods
according to grandma. far as i know, he never got caught tho. i think he was too busy drinking it instead of selling it.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 06:19 PM
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21. Mine was a big time bootlegger
He got tired of being chased by the US Coast Guard, so he hired them to run it for him.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 02:40 PM
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9. well, hubby's great x 5 grandma used to turn an eye in southern cali...
when & while Joaquin Murieta hid from Mexican authorities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Murieta he later came and danced at her wedding, which was supposed to be a big deal

vicarious aiding & abetting maybe :shrug:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:06 PM
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10. Gunpowder plotters, the Wynter brothers. Funnily enough an
uncle of mine was nicknamed 'Guy Fawkes' in his primary school, for trying to blow the school up; a "respectable", Harry Lime kind of ring-leader of Welsh smugglers, called Perrot, who got off when the rest were caught; also more recently, "foot-soldiers" in the smuggling line; a pirate ship owner, and a pirate ship sponsor; an English toff sent to Ireland to help suppress the Irish, but led them in rebellions and was beheaded; a remote connection to the Irish nationalist hero, Kevin Barry (as, also, are all folk with the name Barry or Fitzgerald); and others who were 'respectable', but in many cases, I dare say, were bigger villains than any of the aforesaid!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:12 PM
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12. Some Sicilian family members have been "mobbed up".
A few did big time in Walpole and Sing Sing. Not real "made" guys buys mafioso flunkies who ended up getting caught.

My Irish ancestors were from Southie and Somerville (MA) and worked with the "Winter Hill Gang" at the horestracks in MA and NH, fixing/doping races and other ill shit. An uncle of mine used to work at Whitey Bulger's garage in Somerville as a mechanic<sure...>, but never got his hands dirty with engine grease. He wouldnt know a solonoid from a radiator.

When I was young I was headed in the direction of my uncles. The Sicilians uncles wanted me to work for them driving a panel truck to Providence and back, not telling me what was in the boxes I was to deliver. I did that once and was so paranoid the whole trip. I delivered the load to this old mill building.The guys on the other end gave me $10.00 to go get something to eat, while they unloaded the boxes and told me to "keep your fucken mouth shut". Shortly after that I left Boston for CA just to get away from this element.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:16 PM
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13. One of my cousins is serving time for a fatal drunk driving accident
A couple years before that he was arrested after his drug supplier turned all his little dealers in as part of a plea bargin.
One of my dad's cousins was also a drug dealer, but never was caught. He left his life of drugs and became a Baptist minister.
My great aunt had an inappropriate relationship with one of her male high school students. She didn't do any time, but lost her teaching license and had to stay away children.
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retrospective66 Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:17 PM
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14. Had an uncle by marriage
who become a heroin addict and hermit who didn't pay his taxes for a couple of decades. He had been a real straightlaced kind of guy until Vietnam. He died of an overdose about 15 years ago. Sad.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:25 PM
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15. I had a great uncle who was a republican
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:50 PM
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25. Ok, that's the worst one...
Good thing it's not hereditary.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:41 PM
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32. I had several Republican relatives
To be fair, some of my ancestors were Republican when it was more the anti slavery party of Lincoln.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:03 AM
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37. since the moment of Lincoln's death,
when they shot him for freeing the slaves,

being a repuke has meant being *for* slavery, if there's money in it.
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 04:02 PM
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16. My brother was run out of town by the mob
To this day, I don't know why. He's an alcoholic used car salesman, a lifetime hustler, a guy who could write a book on reform schools because he spent much of his youth in one.

He did "something"...owed someone money, got involved in the wrong one night stand, I don't know what. But he packed up everything virtually overnight and miraculously resurfaced in North Carolina.

What he did couldn't have been that bad, because if the mob wants you bad enough, they'll find you.

He stayed in NC for about 12 years or so, then went home. So the person he crossed either died of natural or unnatural causes, or he paid off the loan sharks, or whatever...but he went home.

I've left many details out of the story because of the high percentage of wiseguys and goodfellas in DU's 90,000+ population...plus guys like Agent Mike.

:evilgrin:

...but the story is true.

:toast:
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 04:10 PM
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17. A little bit
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 04:11 PM by Sgent
My great-grandfather & his brother were charged with murder in Russia. It wasn't morally criminal IMHO (Killed 3 cassocks after they raped my g-grandmother).
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 04:18 PM
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18. ancestor was a pirate
Really, some relative did the genealogy. She was a Dutch woman, first name was Theodora. Don't remember any other details.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 06:01 PM
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19. Just me.NT
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 06:10 PM
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20. my great aunt's father-in-law was the first person
excuted in the electric chair in PA.

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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 06:38 PM
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22. History? It's more like present.
My half-brother is a con artist who uses his homosexuality to get close to men and then screw them out of everything. I have a cousin who's in jail for drugs, who beat his wives, burned a car to get back at an ex and shot a man 5 times in Arkansas. I have a 66 year old aunt who is in prison for three years right now for defrauding banks. She was getting loans for cars, selling the cars and never paying off the loans. My great great grandfather was shot by Belle Starr when he got a little frisky with her one night, or so the family legend goes.
Duckie
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vikegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:04 PM
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23. Mom's related to Clyde Barrow...
of Bonnie & Clyde fame (rather, infamy). Some sort of distant cousin X-removed.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:46 PM
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24. My grandpa on my dad's side was a bigamist
He left my grandmother high and dry during the Depression and ran off to Mexico to marry another woman, never bothering to divorce my grandmother. I don't know whether or not he got caught.
He died long before I was born.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:56 PM
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26. My brother probably should be in jail, but could probably talk his
way out of it.

He did some terrible things, some of them to me. I just found out about one such thing this week. It has to be the most improbable story possible, but it's true.

I can't say more than that though.

I keep feeling some responsibility to keep the lines of communication open in memory of my parents. (I am the only one in my extended family who still talks with him.) But now I think it is time for me to cut whatever ties remain. I probably should never speak to him again.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:15 PM
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29. Sad to say, sometimes you have to cut the ties...
You love him because he's your brother, but you have to cut
the toxic people out of your life for your own
self-preservation.  Tell him you love him but he can't be part
of your life because of his behaviour.  Tough Love, sweetie.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:21 PM
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31. You have the toxic part right for sure.
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 09:22 PM by NNadir
I cannot believe what he's done, and this after, against my better judgement, I helped him out of a jam. Everyone said I shouldn't help him, but I did.

I felt that I should set an example of forgiveness for my two sons, because my father set such an example for me, having forgiven his brother, albeit for much less.

But I cannot be the man my father was. This guy is gone from my life. What happened involved my family and my wife. It will not be forgiven.

Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:10 PM
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27. Some, none of it very recent...
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 09:26 PM by Spider Jerusalem
one of my ancestors was a participant in Nathaniel Bacon's rebellion against Governor Berkeley of Virginia in 1675; he was a colonel in Bacon's army, and narrowly escaped the noose when the rebellion collapsed after Bacon's death. (He was later elected to the House of Burgesses, but denied his seat for his part in the rebellion; he was eventually pardoned, but forbidden from holding public office.)

And another 17th century ancestor was a slave-trader, smuggler and pirate who abused his position as colonel of militia to conduct raids on Indian villages and slaughter the inhabitants, and abused his position as Surveyor-General of the colony to expropriate lands in Maryland belonging to Quakers (he was more or less untouchable because of his influence at the royal court...his brother was physician to Charles II).
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:11 PM
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28. Not in the immediate family
A cousin got into a minor scuffle with a cop and got arrested.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:19 PM
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30. Not on my side of the family
as far as I know, but every time my husband has been called to serve on jury duty, he's been let go because he was related to the defendant.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:06 AM
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38. Eh, I have ignored three jury duty notices.
No one ever tracked me down. If they start sending it registered mail, then I'll start recieving them. Until them, they're all lost in the mail.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:54 PM
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33. My mom was busted for drugs back in 1973 or
1974. I don't know what happened but I know she had to get a lawyer. I was just a kid. All I remember is the other kids teasing me about it.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:17 PM
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34. Holy shit, yes!
I don't know if any of us haven't been involved in some pretty illegal things. Some even got caught, though only a couple ever served time, and those that served time only did it for drunk driving (though one uncle avoided jail time by joining the army, at the judge's suggestion, during the Viet Nam war).

Even I, yea, even I have done some illegal things.

Most of what we've done has been harmless, though - no murder, no theft: mostly explosives, poaching, fighting and brawling, underage drinking (I won a six-pack of Olympia in a bar playing dice when I was ten), drunk driving, drunk fishing, illegal fishing, illegally fishing while drunk with explosives, the kind of stuff that rural "good ol' boys and gals" get into in the long summers...

Oh, and one of my great grandfathers deserted the German army in the late 1800s and came to America.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:59 PM
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35. I stole gum as a child.
It was great. :)

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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 11:51 PM
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36. My great-grandfather shot and killed a man
in a gunfight over the town whore!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:47 AM
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39. Remember the Donnellys ?
Maybe some Canadians will....

well according to my sister, my brother in law is descended from them, so that makes him and my youngest nieces and nephews part of the Donnelly clan.

http://www.canadianmysteries.ca/sites/donnellys/home/howtousesite/indexen.html

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