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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:27 PM
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Why the hell can't people accept it? The Da Vinci Code is FICTION!!!!
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:29 PM
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1. I hate the attitude that just because THEY do not agree
with something, that no one else should be exposed to it. Censorship is a terrible thing.

That being said, I enjoyed The DaVinci Code
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:29 PM
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2. Says who?
I think it is a conspiracy.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:30 PM
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3. Um...The Author says his work was fiction.
:shrug:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:42 PM
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7. He might be lying.
you never know these days.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:31 PM
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33. Dan Brown is totally a reptilian Illuminati type...
Hell-bent on world domination trhough the downfall of the Catholic Church, via the use of fiction that's not really iction.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:51 PM
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34. Does he work for the Trilateral Commission ? Is he a Mason?
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:25 PM
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47. Worse yet, was he a JAMES Mason?
*snort*

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:33 PM
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66. hey, I like James Mason. Great actor
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:33 PM
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4. It makes just a little to much sense.
We know he is working for the devil...


He wants us to beleive things that are not true...*TWITCH* *TWITCH*


He is trying to undermine our god... er... I mean... government... er no... god... *TWITCH* *TWITCH*


:tinfoilhat::freak::tinfoilhat:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:35 PM
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5. The same reason they couldn't accept "Last Temptation of Christ" was
fiction. That was really a pretty good film. I look forward to seeing Da Vinci Code.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:36 PM
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6. I loved the Last Temptation of Christ.
Actually made me think and made my faith stronger. Stupid idiots.
Duckie
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 07:47 AM
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17. Think! Think?
Your name has turned in to The Department of Homeland Security for violation of the unwritten rule against thinking. Thinking ought to be illegal, because it makes the administration feel "uncomfortable" and when the newly stacked Supreme Court allows our glorious leader to serve his third fourth and fifth terms, with the help of GOD we will finally make thinking illegal. Praise Bush!
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:43 PM
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8. I can't hear you






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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:47 PM
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9. People still support Bush, people believe in Scientology,
There are some people who will believe anything.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:17 AM
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11. how about virgin births and rising from the dead?
you are too correct
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:21 AM
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10. Fiction, eh?
Maybe so, but think about it, which is more plausiable (in the words of a daily show):

That Jesus was born by immaculate conception, lived a pure sinless life, died and was magically resurrected three days later and then ascended to heaven.

OR

That he was just a guy (albeit an unusual one) who took a wife, and the Catholic Church covered it up and made him the center of their religion. (The church WAS very powerful in the Middle Ages)


I'm not saying it is or isn't fiction, but still. Heh. ^_^
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 07:35 AM
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16. You forgot the third alternative
Jesus as Paul Bunyan.

A hero who didn't really exist except in legends.

I chose Paul Bunyan because I come from the Northwest and he's who we have.

Paul Bunyan was so large it took 17 storks to deliver him. Paul Bunyan's footsteps created the 10,000 lakes in Minnesota. He created the Grand Canyon by dragging his axe behind him, and Mount Hood by piling rocks on his campfire.

Really, is this so much different from the story of Jesus? He was born as a virgin. He went all over the place healing lepers and feeding hungry people. And he came back from the dead. Being that all the books that went into the Bible were written hundreds of years after the events were supposed to have taken place, it's very possible that the story of the loaves and fishes started out as "a group of people who were on some kind of expedition met a group of hungry people with one fish between them and shared their own provisions with the hungry" turned into "this guy with a long beard came to town and created food out of thin air."

Both stories would teach some good lessons. The first version would actually be better--Jesus probably wouldn't have known where to restock his supplies in the area of the incident, so giving all of their food to people they never met before and wouldn't see again shows that Jesus was willing to sacrifice for the good of strangers. The second incident? "Hey, this guy Jesus can pull things out of thin air so you better do what I say he says."

Well...actually there IS a difference between Paul Bunyan and Jesus: no one ever started a war over Paul Bunyan.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:29 AM
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12. I saw the author on TV, and he bought into the story he was telling
Edited on Fri May-12-06 04:31 AM by JVS
Not the story of the individual character, but the story of the coverup thing.

What's funny is that the guy who wrote the book that he cribbed the information on the coverup thing is less certain of the coverup than the author of DVC was when interviewed.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:06 PM
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35. I enjoyed Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
Billed as non-fiction, I didn't really think it was "true."

But it was an elegant, erudite "what if" tying together some truly interesting parts of history in an unlikely knot. The surviving authors of HBHG now realize that the Priory of Sion was a hoax--or a Surrealist joke.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:33 AM
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13. Maybe it's not as much of a fiction story as we think it is.
:P
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:24 PM
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31. Well, see that's the thing. The story circulating that the Priory of Sion
is a hoax is actually a hoax itself, perpetrated by the Priory of Sion so that people will THINK there is no Priory of Sion even though there really is.

:P
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:16 PM
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42. I'm... dizzy.
:crazy:

:P
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:27 PM
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48. Left Is Write, you've
cracked the REAL Code!!

This is HUGH!!


How DID you get to be so clever :P
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 07:00 AM
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14. Like Claus Von Bulow, I found Dan Brown's writing to be disgusting.
But the story is exciting, the twists are cool, etc. etc.

I don't think God is worried about a novel--you'd think that Christians (of which I'm one) would be happy about the chance to talk about Jesus.

This rash of "Duh-Vinci Code" classes at churches is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. My church is having one, and I'm going just to be the voice of reason. I mean, it's a flippin' flappin' novel! Jesus!
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:07 PM
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60. Biggest church here in my hometown has a seminar
called "Cracking the DaVinci Code"

Blue
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 07:20 AM
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15. I agree.
It is fiction - however plenty of people do seem to be taking the ideas presented in it seriously (for reasons best known to themselves).

The other thing that is fiction is the list of "facts" which Brown puts at the beginning of the book. Thus not only is it fiction, it's fiction based on fictions which are claimed as facts.

If all of the readers of the da Vinci code realised it was pure fiction, there would have been no response to it.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:08 AM
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18. Hush you! If I weren't busy rounding up two of each animal species
for my Ark I'd give you a good talkin' to!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:20 AM
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19. I have three of each species... just in case
And I have a spaceship, not an ark.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:26 AM
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21. Hmmmm......sounds like there's some SCIENCE involved!
I'll bet you're hoarding some of those human/animal hybrids too!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:00 AM
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22. One of them is a scion of Jesus and the Magdalene's
cat, Fluffy ben Tiger.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:31 AM
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24. Oh, one of those Toyota hybrids.
:P
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:26 PM
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64. could you not bring cockroachs and fleas this time?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:21 AM
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20. Not only that, but the entire premise is moronic
If something's so secret that only a few people can know, and never tell anyone, wouldn't it be an advantage to have them killed off?
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:29 AM
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23. Not following you there
That's what the monk is doing in the first chapter.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:07 PM
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36. The monk who belongs to Opus Dei....
A 20th century organization founded to hide an ancient secret?

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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:11 PM
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38. I don't think that's quite right **SPOILER**
Per the book, the (fictional) "ancient" group Priory of Sion was founded to hide the ancient secret, not Opus Dei. But the Opus Dei monk was sent to kill off those who kept the secret.

FWIW, Opus Dei is a real group (20th century, as you mention), but the Priory of Sion is not.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:16 PM
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43. OK. The Opus Dei monk was a "tool" of the Priory of Sion.
However, Opus Dei consists of lay people & "secular" priests. Secular priests are NOT monks.


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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:23 PM
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45. I don't think that's right at all
The Opus Dei monk was *killing off* the Priory of Sion, under the direction of the Teacher. Why, I'm not sure, the Teacher's motivation gets convoluted by the end. But the Priory of Sion was definitely not killing itself off.

But you're correct that the term "monk" was used incorrectly in the novel.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:25 PM
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46. OK.
I've already planned to finally READ the thing. But I don't mind spoilers, at all.

For instance--have you heard anything about next week's "Lost"?

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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:29 PM
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49. Well, shoot
I did say **SPOILERS** though. I thought you were trying to clarify the plot.

However, you can still enjoy the book. I've only spoiled about the first three chapters.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:18 AM
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25. A tool.
The Dominionists are using it to lure the eejits in. Probably easier than buying in bulk their own Left Behind series. It's not that good a popcorn read. Dan Brown's novels are forgetable as soon as you're done.

The Last Templar by Raymond Khoury was a better popcorn read on the same subject. Still they're both fiction. I'm beginning to wonder if the obsession with entertainment has blurred the line between reality and fiction for a lot of folk.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:32 AM
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26. Because then they might have to accept that Harry Potter is too:
Edited on Fri May-12-06 11:33 AM by RubyDuby in GA
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/0512gwxpotter.html

Gwinnett schools to keep Harry Potter

By LAURA DIAMOND
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/11/06

Harry Potter won't be expelled from Gwinnett County's public schools.

The Gwinnett County school board voted unanimously Thursday to keep the popular book series about a boy wizard in the district's school libraries.

A Loganville mother asked the board of the state's largest school district to ban the books, which she said promotes and glorifies witchcraft. But school board members said the books have merit and have improved students' reading skills.

Board member Carole Boyce said her family enjoys reading the books.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:06 PM
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27. Call it fiction if you want, but I'll never forgive Hanks...
...for leaving Meg Ryan.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:23 PM
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29. I thought you were going to say you'd never forgive him...
for that hairstyle.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:22 PM
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28. It is? I was under the impression I was reading a textbook.
:silly:
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2bfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:23 PM
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30. I can't wait for the movie to open!
I really enjoyed the book. :)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:25 PM
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32. I am a whore. I finally bought the DaVinci code, in paperbook
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:09 PM
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37. I'll check out Half Price Books...
For the paperback edition. I'll bet I've heard enough about the plot.

But I need to see if what they say about Dan Brown's prose style is true. Luckily, I read quickly.

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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:13 PM
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40. What do "they" say about his prose style?
I found it a fast read, not cumbersome at all. Enjoyable thriller.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:40 PM
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57. I did too.
It was written better than quite a few books of that genre.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:19 PM
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44. I did too.
That's what took me so long to read it - I was waiting for the paperback. I generally do my fluff reading in the bathtub. That's hard to do with hardback books.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:34 PM
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50. Well then, you need one of these!


:P
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:32 PM
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56. Hey! That's cool!
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 05:29 PM
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58. I'll probably buy it at target soon...
I like the way the paperback version they are using. Stays open on it's own. Sounds weird, but the pocket books are a little hard to hold sometimes....
Duckie
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:12 PM
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39. I heard this recently...
When Star Wars came out, you didn't see scientists losing their minds screaming, "BUT LIGHT SABERS AREN'T REAL! THEY'RE NOT REAL! THERE ARE NO LIGHT SABERS!"

:rofl:
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:14 PM
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41. Two kinds of people believe the Da Vinci Code is true:
(1) Religious folk who are highly insulted by the "sacrilege." A few Catholics (a very few) & some of those other "Christians" who've made a career out of being offended.

(2) Those fearsome folk who read One Book Per Year. And then insist on recounting every plot detail at every opportunity.

They all need to read some myth, legend, comparative religion & psychology to broaden their minds. Joseph Campbell, anyone?



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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:38 PM
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51. What about (3) People like me who don't know squat about religious history
After all, the book is self-consistent, so if you don't know any better, it's totally plausible.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:07 PM
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52. It's so closely based upon a book claiming to be fact....
...that the authors sued (and should have won).
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:17 PM
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53. Well the judge disagrees with you
I'm glad Dan Brown won. Sleazy attempt to extort money from the publisher and/or the movie producers, IMHO.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:28 PM
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54. And academic porn at that. Started out interesting re: thesis that
christianity suppressed the female and turned into pulp fiction.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 05:31 PM
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59. It was the people who wrote the bible who suppressed the female...
Because they were men and wanted to feel more manly. :shrug:
Duckie
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:30 PM
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55. Hell yeah it's fiction!
Everybody should know Scientology is the real deal.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:26 PM
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61. having read 'the thing', i thought Hanks as Langdon was an...
interesting piece of casting :shrug: but then i thought, "if Tom Hanks can fire the prime motor and reposition Apollo 13 to a dancing moon; then he play Langdon." :thumbsup:

:-)
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:28 PM
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62. I think Tom Hanks can play ANYTHING.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:23 PM
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63. I'm starting to lose my voice
shouting IT'S FICTION!!!!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:59 PM
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65. And badly-written fiction at that. Total hack. n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:34 PM
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67. some people don't have brains
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