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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:16 AM
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40 yr. old "mother of three" Cindy Margolis to Pose for Playboy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060425/ap_on_en_ot/celeb_cindy_margolis_5
Cindy Margolis, known as the "Most Downloaded Woman" on the Internet, is following up her win on "Celebrity Cooking Showdown" with a career first — posing nude for Playboy.



The mother of three told The Associated Press that she finally agreed to pose for the magazine when they called on her 40th birthday.

"Thank goodness for 'Desperate Housewives.' You're not dead just because you are married and have children," the actress and model said Monday, on the phone from her Los Angeles home.




Margolis, a former "Price is Right" model, gave birth to son Nicholas in 2002 after a high-risk pregnancy. The child was her first with husband, Guy Starkman. In 2005 Margolis and Starkman welcomed twins Sabrina and Sierra into the family. The twins were carried by a surrogate mother, and are biologically the couple's by in-vitro fertilization.

"It doesn't matter how you get your baby, even if it's via FedEx as long as you get to hold your precious baby in your arms. You can have your miracle child," Margolis said.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:21 AM
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1. She was one of the "celebrity" cooks on that phony show!!!!
Glad I didn't watch....
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:31 AM
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2. posing naked.......women have come a long way, eh?
I'm sure her children will be so proud of her. :eyes:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:18 AM
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4. Just what I was thinking
thank you
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:43 PM
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48. You're welcome.
I don't think a lot of women "get it" anymore. That women can be more than this....but I'm just an uppity, out of touch feminist. ;)
I think some women need to learn by the school of hard knocks. Knock yourself out as a bimbo/doormat and don't come crying to me when you don't get respect in life.

:hi:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:51 PM
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51. that'll show Gloria Steinem!
;)
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:59 PM
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52. haha. yes, this will teach her!!
Gloria is over 70 now(??) and looks and sounds better than ever!
Now SHE is a role model!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:06 PM
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57. yeah....Betty Friedan is dead, so Designing Women can be
our new role models... granted I think it's great to feel good about your body at any age, but do you wanna put nude posing on your resume?

I just spent all day at a big head conference and an attack of snarkiness has hit...


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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:15 PM
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62. LOL - just thinking......
How does one WORD posing nude on a resume?



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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:05 AM
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3. sh'es bragging about her body after three kids but rent-a-womb'd 2 of 'em?
good one!
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:06 AM
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24. That made me laugh, too!
How tough is it to keep your shape after SOMEONE ELSE'S pregnancy?

:rofl:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:49 PM
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49. I think she's had work done on her face......
I don't think she's "aged" well for 40. Not that 40 is old, far, far from it.

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:05 PM
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56. I didn't see where she said that.
I saw where she acknowledged that a woman is "not dead" because she's married and has children. I think she's coming from a position of her age now, an age that has traditionally been ignored in popular culture, which is why she referenced the women of Desperate Housewives, most of whom are over 40.

She didn't say, "I had three children and just look at me!"

(BTW, I've never struggled with infertility, but if I had, I might find the term "rent-a-womb" to be rather dismissive.)
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:38 AM
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5. How Come they haven't called me?
I'd be a good choice. I'm almost 60 and I think I look good for my age. They can airbrush just about anything these days. Airbrush out the wrinkles and fat and I'd look just like Barry Manilow.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:39 AM
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6. ROFLMAO
:rofl:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:42 AM
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7. Yea, Yea. Go ahead and laugh.
I'm on a diet. These things take time.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:53 AM
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9. Hey, I'm in the same boat
only I'm not 60.

I look pretty much like Kathy Bates.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:55 AM
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11. I love Kathy Bates. She is just the best actress.
So many really good women just get totally overlooked in this society.

We need to picket and have big protests or something.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:42 AM
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8. obviously
They haven't asked because they think you're too smart and sensitive for their magazine
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:53 AM
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10. Playboy?
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 08:54 AM by leftyladyfrommo
I don't think so.

There ought to something for us very attractive, probably not so sexy, but intelligent and sensitive older women.

We always get left out of everything. After 40 women just become invisible and that is so not right.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:56 AM
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15. I can only speak for myself
I find older women to be extremely attractive. Alas, I don't have the resources or knowledge to start a magazine
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:03 PM
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53. I have no doubt you look very nice...
probably very natural as well. :D

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:01 AM
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12. It's her body and her choice.
I'm glad American women have the right to make these choices for themselves.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:09 AM
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13. Yea, but I wouldn't want a bunch of horny guys oggling me.
That whole idea just gives me the creeps.

It's really nice when its a guy that you really care about but it gets creepy pretty fast when you are targeted by other guys.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:58 AM
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16. I agree with you. These are our bodies, and our choices.
:thumbsup:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:10 AM
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14. Sure but let's just hope
she's never raped.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:02 AM
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17. I hope no one's ever raped, and I hope we all would have the compassion
to stand up for anyone who's raped, regardless of what that person does for a living or whether she has chosen to pose nude. I am of the opinion that who we choose to show our bodies to, and who we choose to share our bodies with, is our choice alone. Rape violently takes that choice away from us. (I use "she" here as a generality. There are male rape victims, too.)
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:41 AM
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20. I fully agree
I just see a double standard when women are heralded as empowered when they display their bodies but denigrated for having done so if they are raped. (If you haven't been following the Duke threads, you may not get the reference.)

I should have used the "sarcasm" emoticon in my original post. I hope no one is ever raped but the "stripper" in the Duke case has been vilified here, her "credibility" questioned, her personhood reduced to "what did she expect?" She's "just" a stripper.

From a former Duke law professor interviewed on NPR this morning: "How much you ask for it if you're going to get out there and be a stripper. Hehehe."

"How much you ask for it".

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5363491
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:46 AM
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23. I know. We've a long way to go in many respects.
Thank you for that link. I'll check it out when I'm a little less agitated about the very sad mindset you've cited. Those "how much you ask for it" comments, though, say a lot more about the commentator than they do about strippers, in my opinion.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 04:40 PM
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63. Oops, I posted downthread (#21) before I saw your post.



We must have been typing basically the same response at the same time. Well, never mind. You reply is much better written than mine anyway.



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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:44 AM
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21. Right, but sadly there is still a double standard in our society.



The guys who patronize Hooters and Playboy and strip clubs and the like and rationalize their exploitation of women - and try to silence their critics - by self-righteously proclaiming, "Oh, but it was HER choice! What are you, against women's freedom to choose their own jobs?" are the first ones who will blame the victim if she gets raped. "Oh, well... what did she expect!? I mean, she IS an exotic dancer. She should have known it was going to happen sooner or later. Everyone knows guys, especially drunk guys, can't always control themselves in front of THAT..."


:eyes:


Just look at the debacle which is the Duke case. Perfect example.



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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:10 AM
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18. Heidi, I don't think anyone is arguing against women having these choices
Sometimes, though, it's hard to feel like we're making any headway in this world when so many women are so willing to put themselves out there as sex symbols.

Yes, women can be very sexy. But we can also be talented, intelligent, warm, compassionate, capable, and humorous.

Pity there aren't men spending money on magazines that celebrate those female qualities.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:24 AM
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19. I understand what you're saying, Miss Millie.
Maybe I'm on the very liberal side of this, but I live in a country where sex workers have the same federal protections as everyone else and perhaps this has shaped my worldview. For me, making a living with a good looking body is no different than making a living with a very sharp mind, or very fine knowledge of a craft. No one's going to pay me to pose for Playboy, but no one's going to pay the woman in the OP to paint a portrait. We all have something to offer, I love that we as human beans can still make these choices for ourselves.

:pals:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:45 AM
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22. There are also people who don't sexualize all nudity
It's just possible that Ms. Margolis considers this a celebration of herself rather than an opportunity to let horny old men ogle her. And I think that's very healthy.

Botticelli, Reubens et al didn't paint porn; they painted women — beautiful women in their natural state.

Nudity does not equal sexuality, nor does Playboy equal "sexploitation." I'd give Ms. Margolis the benefit of the doubt.
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:09 PM
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42. Agreed. And it is Playboy
not Hustler.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:11 PM
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60. Right, at Playboy.....
the founder has 7 on-call bleached blond girlfriends only 50 years younger than him, the founder of Hustler does not. ;)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:07 PM
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58. Another good point. Even if it is sexualized, she's celebrating herself.
And I have to add as one who also experienced a high-risk, but successful, pregnancy, I'm proud that my strong body got me through it.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:05 PM
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25. I tend to think along your lines, Heidi.
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 12:08 PM by Iniquitous Bunny
I think that sexuality is normal and men are visually stimulated, henceforth, this happens and is essentially normal.

I also believe if the US had a more relaxed attitude about human sexuality, the human body, etc., we not only would we stop seeing the female standard of beauty in such a limited form (including instead ALL realms of different sizes, ages, and colors of female beauty), but there wouldn't be such an integration of control and violence with sexuality in this culture.

If boys were raised in a context where the were taught to integrate their sexual feelings with that of respect with whom they are feeling those feelings for and girls were raised to love their bodies AS THEY ARE, life would be so much better for all. I come from a family of Scandinavian origin (not sure if that's where you are, but I suspect) and while that culture has it's flaws at times, it's one of teaching normalcy in terms of human sexuality in my experience.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:18 PM
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26. "Sexuality is normal."
I agree about 7 brazilian percent. Ya know, I was raised southern Baptist in a tiny little Oklahoma town, and it wasn't until I was in my early 30s, traveling for the first time abroad, that I realized, "Hey, I'm OK and everyone around me is OK, too." I live in the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland, but the attitudes towards human sexuality, even in one of the most conservative regions of this country, are wildly liberal compared to the area where I grew up. Every culture has its flaws, but one of the flaws about my US culture is that it seems too often to judge people harshly and negatively on the basis of them simply exercising basic human rights: what they choose to do with their pwn bodies, who they choose to love, how many they choose to love, how and whether they use their bodies to make a living, etc. It's sad, and unrealistic, I think.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:00 PM
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30. Have you ever noticed though
that while women do indeed buy porn, the industry is heavily marketed towards men, because men (in general) buy more porn than women do?

Sexuality is indeed normal, but the business of making a woman's sexuality public tends to bring in much more money than the business of making a man's sexuality public.

Like I said, where are all the men lined up to buy magazines that focus on other terrific female attributes? Why is it that in order for a magazine about women to be lucrative, it has to be either geared toward women (women's fashion, child-rearing, cooking, etc.), or geared around naked women?

I'm not saying that it's dirty... I'm just saying that it's often hard for women to argue that we have become much more than a pretty face and a fabulous body when that seems to be all that men want to patronize.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:06 PM
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39. Hmm...
Very thought-provoking question!

Why is it that in order for a magazine about women to be lucrative, it has to be either geared toward women (women's fashion, child-rearing, cooking, etc.), or geared around naked women?

(this is a real off-the-cuff answer)

If there are magazines about women that aren't in the categories above, then they're going to be about, say, women writers, women reporters, women executives, women photographers, etc. And for the most part (I'm guessing), those kind of magazines are going to end up being gender-neutral magazines: fiction, Time/Newsweek, business mags, photography mags.

In other words, if you're a publisher, and you want to publish one of the above (fiction, business, etc.), AND you want both men and women to buy it, then you're not going to narrow your focus. Why would you?
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:58 PM
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47. I don't think that's true of men.
I think very young, immature men like plastic sorts of women perhaps because our culture has deemed it to be the default essence of beauty so to speak, but most men with some maturity (this can be in their 20's for some men while others never seem to get there) find erotica with more normal, average ("amateur" if you will) women more appealing. I think certain things tend to be hardwired into our XX vs. XY chromosomed brains in terms of visual appeal. I've always been fortunate to be with men who, although procured visually erotic material at times, put me first in terms of our love life. I think it's a matter of how you treat the woman in your live (and women as a whole) that makes a man a good man, or even a feminist man, not his taste (or lack of taste) in visually erotic material.

I tend to like science magazines, political magazines, or professional journals. Not everything is geared toward sexuality or gender specific stuff.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:08 PM
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59. Can I get an AMEN?!
Very well put--thank you.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
64. I believe your crime rate and specifically your sex crime rate



...is much lower than ours as well, yes?


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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:00 PM
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67. You're correct.
:hi: DA!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:04 PM
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54. Thank you--I agree. nt
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #12
55. Too bad too many of them are dumb choices.....
why do women want to limit themselves nowadays?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:33 PM
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27. She looks amazingly self-impressed
Is it that much to brag about that she was someone who waved their hands over cars on The Price Is Right? Or that she was on a faked game show about cooking?

Besides, she dresses like she's 15. I hate 15 year olds that dress like that-40 year olds don't make it any better.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:52 PM
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28. If somebody offered ME thousands to pose in the nude....
I'd probably be able to buy a new car!

So, she's not Mother Teresa.


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:59 PM
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29. Even with the rentawomb business
She looks like she has been rode hard and put away wet.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:04 PM
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31. The "most downloaded woman" stuff was always bullshit
Completely bogus claim.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:35 PM
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34. It wasn't "always" bullshit
At least according to Wikipedia:

She also found her way into the 2000 Guinness Book of World Records as a result of being the "most downloaded" person in 1999. At the age of 34, the peak of her popularity, she was downloaded 70,000 times in a span of 24 hours.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:07 PM
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40. I remember
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 03:07 PM by Radical Activist
I didn't buy it then either. Its an easy claim to make but almost impossible to prove.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:10 PM
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43. I dunno about that.
The Guinness people are pretty stringent.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:11 PM
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44. Here's more from Wiki:
On December 5, 2000, Guinness World Records awarded Ashe the title "Most downloaded woman on the Internet" when they confirmed her image had been downloaded over a billion times. Ashe was the first person in history to officially reach this milestone. The download record had previously been claimed by bikini model Cindy Margolis who claimed seven million total downloads at the time of Ashe’s challenge.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:20 PM
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45. who?
Ashe who? Why are the most downloaded people women a lot of people have never heard of? It doesn't add up.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:26 PM
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46. Danni Ashe!
You really need to brush up on your Internet porn :+
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 04:55 PM
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65. My guess:



Their managers or press agents or whomever set up a few computers in a room and programmed them to do nothing but repeatedly download their client's photo (or articles about the client or whatever qualifies), just so they could use the "Most Downloaded" title as a marketing strategy and rake in the bucks from the increased revenue generated by the "rising popularity."


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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:31 PM
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32. One of my high school classmates did the 40 something Playboy thing.
Playboy doesn't want pictures of me naked, not even airbrushed pictures of me wearing makeup, so it's not a question I've ever seriously pondered.

If you type something like "Forty Year Old Naked" into google images you probably don't have to buy a Playboy. Or maybe I think that because I don't know who Cindy Margolis is, so I've never even thought about seeing her naked.



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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:08 PM
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41. One of your high school classmates was in Playboy after age 40?
That's a pretty select group! Heck, over 30 in Playboy is a pretty select group.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:33 PM
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33. Good for her!
I think that's awesome. I couldn't do it! :).
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:36 PM
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35. That face has had some work done.
Not well done, either. She looks creepy. And she's only forty. My wife is 46, has never had plastic surgery, and still looks much better than Cindy Margolis.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:45 PM
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36. Hey
when are you going to be on the TV show?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:52 PM
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37. June 14th.
I'm either gonna buy TiVo, or just tape the show (it's on a Wednesday night) and then have everybody over for a party to watch it that weekend. Hope you'll watch, too, Hey! :hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:02 PM
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38. Got it
Thanks and good luck
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:51 PM
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50. my sentiments EXACTLY.
:D
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:12 PM
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61. I'm very specific when it comes to MILFs.
They can't have any wrinkles on their face, which unfortunately she has.

Yeah, I'm a horny college student, so what??:evilgrin:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:42 PM
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66. eh....
Penthouse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Playboy
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