Lets vote, Is there anyone hear who really believe the OBL tape is real?

[coldiggs]

Say it hear because I want to hear why.

[RandomKoolzip]

1. I believe Al-Queada is real, I believe the new bin Laden tape is real....

AND I believe that the Bush Administration is made up of lying, murdering scumfucks who use these real events (terrorist threats and attacks) to their political advantage.

[coldiggs]

2. but these tapes always have perfect timing for bush

[RandomKoolzip]

3. Unlike many DUers, I don't view Bush as some comic book supervillan.

Some things are beyond his control. Which is not to say he (and his team, and his loyal press) doesn't make hay of them.

[Common Sense Party]

5. People give him and Evil Rove far too much credit.

They just ain't that smart.

[RandomKoolzip]

7. Oh, they're very smart.

They're consummate political strategists, which unfortunately is not the same thing as being a consummate politician or a consummate human being.

Bush constantly uses his "bumbling" persona to his advantage, and the Bush team is very skillful at manipulating the media. But they didn't create the bin Laden tape.

[Common Sense Party]

8. They're smart, but they're not Lex Luthor.

I don't think they are micromanaging and causing EVERY bad thing that happens in the world.

[RandomKoolzip]

10. That's exactly what I was saying in my first reply.

These are dangerous fucking people, the Bush Administration. But they're not mythical super-beasts who control every political event that ever happens.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

11. They made you say that to try to throw us off.

[RandomKoolzip]

13. The DUers are on to me, Karl! To the Bat Cave!

VROOM VROOM

[A-Schwarzenegger]

14. They made you make a bat joke to make us giggle and forget

what we were trying to think about.

[RandomKoolzip]

15. BUSH CONTROLS EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES!!!!!!!

I can't even take a dump without getting permission from the White House!

[Common Sense Party]

18. Exactly. I was agreeing with you. Sorry I wasn't clear. nt

[Bucky]

17. Thank you. But if he were a supervillian, he'd be the Penguin

Definitely not Lex Luthor materiel.

[Beware the Beast Man]

Brav-fucking-O!

Guess what, folks? There really are religious zealots in the world who hate us. Is our government calculating the release of these tapes to spook the public? Probably, but to deny the existence of Bin Laden or dismiss him as some operative or imaginary figure is ridiculous.

on edit- OBL knows damn well he is parroting some of the talking points of this nation's opposition party (obvioulsy liberal Democrats). He's no hayseed- he knows his political science and current affairs.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

4. No, it's Genius Karl Rove in Mastermind Headquarters,

imitating OBL's voice.

[LSK]

6. did you see this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=185319&mesg_id=185319

[Taverner]

9. I think *this* tape is real

But many before it were not...

I also think Bush is missing the clear point made on this tape. Iraq has become AlQueda U for fighting the US. We are training them to be meaner, stronger, and better at killing us. And if we don't stop behaving like insane drunk cowboys this will come back to bite us on the ass.

[AKPacker]

12. I think it is a fake!

I may be proved wrong, but how much you want to make a bet that this tape is going to end up in the State of the Union Address as justification for Iraq and illegal wire tapping

[XemaSab]

22. Can you tell a dog not to behave like a dog?

Can you tell a cat not to behave like a cat?

Can you tell a bird not to behave like a bird?

So how can you tell an insane drunk cowboy not to behave like an insane drunk cowboy? :shrug:

[gizmo1979]

16. Sure

why not?Arab TV usually isn't associated with the Bushco.

[Initech]

19. Remember when people proved that the last tape was phony?

The one that surfaced last November? And they found that "Osama bin Laden" was nothing more than an actor who lived in Santa Ana, CA?

I am willing to bet that since the W admin is nothing but a bunch of lying fuckwads, that they did it again!

[Beware the Beast Man]

21. Do you have a source?

Preferably to a non-tinfoil website.

[Initech]

25. I remember hearing it was fake for about a week after it aired.

I'll go see if I can find a source from a non tin-foil website.

[Beware the Beast Man]

26. I would by it if it were a non-American impostor,

perhaps someone in cahoots with al Qaeda, but a guy from Cali? Can't be.

[Bucky]

28. Here's a picture of the actor who alleged portrayed him in the fake video

ah ha, the conspiracy deepens...

[Initech]

29. Looks pretty convincing!

Unfortunately, the only links to websites that I could find (that probably werent taken down by the government) were tin-foil ones.

[Bucky]

24. Source, please. Who's the "actor" & where's the "proof"?

The only thing I saw "proving" it was a fake simply used image distortion to argue it was a different man.

[XemaSab]

20. It really doesn't matter

Whether the tape is real or fake, he's still out there and planning to attack us again. Period.

[Bucky]

23. I can't know, but I'm willing to believe it's real. He needs the publicity

The al-Qaedists in Iraq are busy trying to provoke a general war between Sunnis and Shi'ites--which is way off base from what OBL wants. He really needs to get back in front of the steamroller he started up.

[Maddy McCall]

27. For future reference, this thread is more of a GD thread than a lounge...

thread.

[Beware the Beast Man]

30. It's a thread for all seasons.

:)