Jack White is a much better guitarist than Zappa, Townshend

[KFC]

In partial response to johnnie's thread.



Only 16 people who ever lived can be considered better guitarists than Jack White.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/5937559?rnd=1133555865843&has-player=true

The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

[patcox2]

1. Only 4,000 magazines are better than the Rolling Stone

Rolling Stone is full of shit too, if they think that mediocre nerd weaering a costume is a guitar player.

Rock and rollers do not wear costumes and have color-coordinated stage scenery.

[eeyore]

15. Tell that to Bowie and Freddy Mercury

And hell, don't you think that Angus Young wears a costume? Dude's been wearing it since the very earliest of days, and no one rocks like Angus.

Just sayin....:shrug:

[eyepaddle]

2. Who the fuck voted on that bullshit list?!?!?!?

:mad:

I'm gonna guess this is more proof that by defintion to be a music critic means to be: 1) hearing impaired, 2) Devlepmoentally delayed, and 3) Utterly infatuated only with what is trendy.

Kurt Cobain ahead of Jeff Beck?!?!? :wtf:
B.B King -- obviously an icon, but the least interestig of any of the three Kings (Freddie and ALbert also)
Bo Diddley ahead of Steve Howe,
Johnny Fucking RAMONE?!? He'd probaby be pissed to be on this list.

Music critics: could they just do us all a favor and fuck off and die?

[anarch]

3. uhh...and Ron Asheton from the Stooges

one better than Buddy Guy??? I love the Stooges, but come on now.

[Sufi Marmot]

4. Any critic who puts Jack White ahead of Richard Thompson...

...isn't qualified to make the list. Actually White shouldn't be ahead of at least 20 people who are listed below him...

-SM

[MrScorpio]

5. No Ernie Isley or Kazumi Watanabe - This list is FUCKED!

Idiots

If you don't know who Kazumi Watanabe is, edijimacate yourself

http://www.hilltop.co.jp/kazumi/

[Oeditpus Rex]

6. Okay, that's it

Ronnie Montrose isn't even on the list??

FUCK you, Trolling Bone! Fuck you and fuck everyone who ever wrote a fucking comma in your shit-stained waste of trees!



Oh... except Sorelle. I like her lots. :loveya:

[NNadir]

7. How is "better" measured?

I have always had a problem with "best guitarist" or "better guitarist." It seems a little self serving, as it reflects the speaker's personal taste and little else.

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

There about people on this "best" list to whom I would actively avoid listening.

[Beaverhausen]

8. I try and try to figure out the appeal of the White Stripes but I can't

can someone explain it to me?

[johnnie]

9. For the record

I posted that last night in case anyone was interested, I don't really listen to The White Stripes. I think they are interesting but not my cup of tea. His guitar playing made me feel real good about my own last night though..lol.

That list is a bit fucked up but then again I canceled my long-time subscription to them about 15 years ago. They have a few good articles but for the most part they have become as much of a rag as commercial music. No offense to the people who like that type of music, it just doesn't interest me any longer.

[ghostsofgiants]

10. As much as I like Jack, no WAY is he better than John Frusciante

[GumboYaYa]

11. Whoever made that list doesn't know anything about guitar....

Any list of great guitarists without Django Reinhart in the top five isn't worth shit. I can name fifty guitarists better than Jack White without breaking a sweat.

[Greyskye]

14. Agreed. And no Don Ross????

Hell, in 1996, Don won the prestigious U.S. National Fingerstyle Guitar Championship for the second time - I don't believe that anyone else has ever done that.

I've seen Ross live a number of times. If you close your eyes and listen to him, it's easy to imagine 2 or 3 guitars and a percussionist up there - but it's only Don and his acoustic.

I saw the White Stripes on the DS last night - that dude sounded like a 2nd year guitar student in comparison!

And he's ranked above Mark Knopfler and Trey Anastasio (not to mention the rest of that list) to boot? :wtf:

[MN ChimpH8R]

12. The placements of Fripp,

Zappa, McLaughlin and Howe are laughable. All are top 10 on any thinking musician's list. And Bert Jansch at 94??!!?? :wtf: Jimmy Page once admitted that his acoustic guitar style was a cross of "Bert Jansch, John Renbourn and total incompetence." Jansch is the most influential acoustic player of the last 40 years. And where the hell is Wishbone Ash's Andy Powell, master of the Flying V?

[Floogeldy]

13. That's more like a popularity contest.

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[graywarrior]

16. I have to agree with Duane Allman

Although he should be #1

[eeyore]

17. It's a fashion magazine - they don't know dick about music anymore!

Seriously.

I actually don't have a gripe about Jack White as a musician or a guitar player. He's no better or worse than Neil Young. And technical talent has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to actually write a good song.

However, that magazine sucks anymore.

They know as much about musics as MTV - ZILCH!

[bridgit]

18. townshend, clearly...zappa? drop that crack pipe y'all...

any list that doesn't have eric johnson on it, does have joni mitchell on it, with john mcLaughlin & john fahey so far down the list can only be a name recognition/popularity contest-list.

while playing keyboard; white couldn't keep his fingers out of the way last night on the daily show...i expect to see him above oscar petersen, thelonious monk & bill evans on a piano poll with a fan base like his :thumbsup:

:rofl:

[evlbstrd]

19. Zappa on music critics:

"Most rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read."

[jane_pippin]

20. I don't get why people are so pissed at/about the White Stripes

I think lists are generally stupid, and Rolling Stone lists haven't been the slightest bit relevant for years.

I like the White Stripes. I've seen them many times in tiny clubs, and a few times in large venues. They're a great band. Now, I could do without this whole zombie Johnny Depp thing Jack White is up to lately. And, I haven't gotten the new record yet but I will eventually and chances are I'll like it well enough. It probably won't be my favorite of theirs, but so what? None of those things will make me think they're talentless hacks.

I don't know that he's some kind of messiah of guitar playing, but whatever he does, I like it. Makes me want to go out and dance and yell and jump around, which is sometimes all I ask of my rock and or roll, (and oddly enough, why the zombie Johnny Depp Jack White makes me laugh.)

I just don't get it. You'd think Dylan just went electric or something.

[Rising Phoenix]

21. did you see him on John Stewart last night...

[Giant Robot]

22. So why isn't Jessica Simpson on the list too???

:rofl:

[jrandom421]

23. You call this an ALL-Time List?!

What a bunch of hooey!
Where's Andres Segovia?
Where's Carlos Montoya?
Where's Christopher Parkening?
Where's Al Di Miola?

Not all great guitarists play only rock musis!!

[Lannes]

24. To quote Rick James

"Cocaine's a hell of a drug" Whoever made this list must of been doing alot of it.Better than Lightnin Hopkins/Buddy Guy and Freddie King,T-Bone Walker?

Thats the biggest bunch of horseshit Ive ever heard from Rolling Stone. Booo this man,boo him!!!

[Cats Against Frist]

25. That list is FUCKING WHACK

Trey Anastasio? 73? I'm sorry. That's just wrong.