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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:58 PM
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I think the British Royal Scandal involves Edward, not Charles
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 07:15 PM by joeybee12
Ok, we know it was a homosexual encounter between a Royal and a servant.

Charles came out today to deny everything, therefore, it focuses attention on him, and not on Edward. And, he's hoping that the story never makes it into print, and therefore, believeing that most people won't think that he (Charles) actually had a homosexual encounter, the story goes away, and Edward is in the clear.

Let's face it, the youngest of the three brothers is gay, and his marriage is a cover.

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:59 PM
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1. That was my first thought
If Charles were gay, it would be an improvement over the cow-face.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:03 PM
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4. Great minds think alike
Charles really has to be straight to be attracted to a woman like that!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:59 PM
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2. You are CORRECT! Quite an observation...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:02 PM
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3. Thanks
Now I wonder if we'll ever hear any juicy details!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:04 PM
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5. Edward II?
Yeah, I heard that about him. :evilgrin:

(off-topic as always)
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:06 PM
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6. Pity it wasn't Andrew...
:-)

I would have said, 'William' but that kid as enough problems without that: he HAS to father an heir, regardless of his orientation.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:14 PM
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8. Pity it wasn't Andrew 15 years ago!
Time has not been kind to him!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:32 PM
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12. I think it actually was Andrew.
There have been stories about the Duke of York as well. And don't you find it odd that there's been no significant woman in his life since he and Sarah divorced SEVEN years ago? For a still youngish and reasonable good looking man, I don't know...
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:37 PM
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13. Have you seen "Meet the Royals"??
It's on one of the cable learning channels, and is hosted by Davie Jones of the Monkees. Anyway, he did an hour on Andrew a couple of weeks ago, and when they got to Andrew's life after Fergie, the narrative became far more vague. So you might be onto something here; I have no gaydar, so I can't tell about him. What surprised me about Andrew, is that he never drinks alchohol. You would think he is a party boy from hell.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:16 PM
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19. I did see that show.
It made the Duke seem to be quite shallow indeed. Anyway, I remember the gossip way back when he and Sarah first broke up. The story then was that she found out about his other lover(s) and they were not female. It was the reason why they had to get divorced, even tho' Sarah and Andrew remain very good friends even today. Apparently the discovery made their continued marriage untenable.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:39 PM
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28. And Davie said at least three times,
that Andrew's ladies all reported later that 'he wasn't exactly the greatest thing in bed'. That could be telling.

And with HIS looks, he must have just LAIN there, to be a turn off.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:41 PM
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29. Yeah, but he was really good looking, so that's why he stunk
Seriously, really good looking people don't have to try to make people like them, so they don't put forth the effort in anything.

A study showed that the marriages that have the most problems are those between two really, really good looking people, because neither has had any experience in having to please other people.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:16 PM
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31. Interesting! But I wouldn't know about having sex
with really drop-dead gorgeous people. :-(

I'm sure there are worse things that could happen...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:24 PM
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32. Have you ever watched Blind Date?
When there is a guy or girl who is incredibly good-looking, and he/she thinks the other is not up to his/her standards, that guy or girl is a real bitch. It's embarrassing what assholes they are, because they're used to being pampered, and if the other person does one thing wrong, a huge hissy-fit follows.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:30 PM
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33. Yeah.
But they get totally humiliated by the subtexts as they go through it. Serves them right!

That is on during the day here. If I am going channel surfing then, I check the soaps out for guys. There certainly are a few. Ever see "Christian", on OLTL??? (2 pm Eastern, ABC)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:32 PM
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34. I surf the soaps with the sound muted, so I don't know any names!
I'll have to catch the names next time I watch.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:16 PM
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20. I vote Andrew
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:17 PM
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21. I say Andrew because
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 08:29 PM by cosmicdot
I'm not one to gossip ... so, I'll only repeat this once ... I seem to recall that ... back in the 80s I met and got to know someone in the military who served as escort to Prince Andrew during a visit to Washington, DC ... I'm almost sure I was told Andrew was/is Gay.

Of course, when Edward worked in West End theatre ... I thought it might be him ......

On an episode of AbFab, Patsy's sister visited on New Year's Eve and remarked about all English men being Gay ... and, Edwina's ex-husband's Gay lover said: 'if only'

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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:13 PM
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7. That family is
full of stuff like that. It's been said for years that Edward is gay, as was the Duke of Windsor who abdicated his throne for the woman he loved. That relationship was a bit unusual too.:shrug:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:15 PM
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9. I think Margaret's husband was gay
Which they didn't mind (Lord Snowden is who I mean) but he actually wanted to be a practicing homosexual, and that caused problems.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:21 PM
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10. And then there was Prince Eddy, George V's brother.
And a dumb looking GET he was! But he died young, and Elizabeth Windsor's grandfather became king (who used to say with pleasure that 'he had never read a book'). Supposedly, Eddy's drag name was "Victoria"....
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
51. Meanwhile, over in Monaco
When is Prince Albert going to get married?
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:28 PM
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11. Who cares?
They're all a bunch of corrupt, ignorant half-wits anyway.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #11
37. A good question.
But, as you can see, not nearly as much fun as agonizing over it.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:11 PM
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38. Damn right--but don't agnoize over it--make fun of it!
But I can't imagine that a Royal boinking a servant of the same sex would spell the end of the monarchy as some are claiming.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:16 PM
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39. One suspects this might have occurred from time to time in the past.
Considering some of the other stuff that has gone down,
I agree, nobody has any delusions about them anyway. They
are a historical vestige, like a statue of McKinley in the
town square. It no longer really matters what they do
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:06 PM
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40. You know, a lot of Brits still take them very seriously
I made the mistake of an off-the-cuff comment about the Queen and boy did I get an earful. You can't even joke about her to some people.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:14 PM
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41. Right.
My ex-mum-in-law was a Brit. Tea cups with the
empire cross and the Queen's jubilee and such.
But such people do not want the Royals to go away.
Chuck might be asked to go away if it's embarassing
enough, maybe.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:17 PM
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42. I guess a new poll shows people want Liz to give the crown directly to
William, thus bypassing Charles.

If it really is him in the center of this scandal, that just might happen.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:21 PM
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43. It seems reasonable to think Chuck would be thrown overboard
if he is a liability to the franchise. It's been done
before. And he certainly is an unappetizing piece of work.
Better to get someone with a bit of charisma.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:24 PM
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45. Yeah, and I think Liz might outlive him anyway
She comes from sturdy stock, and shows no sign of slowing down.

I do sort of feel bad for him--I guess she never showed him any affection as a child mainly because that wasn't proper protocol. Very cold to her kids, and he felt it most.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:30 PM
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48. Indeed.
The Queen Mum hung on for quite a long time.
And Liz is indeed a sturdy piece of work.

Chuck would be better out of it, in any case (IMHO).
But we all need to get over our Mumsies at some point anyway
in order to get on with our own business in life.

One does wonder if he really wants the job anyway?
I think I would go nuts.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:40 PM
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52. Yeah, it's a thankless job
But I have to say that after I visited London I had to agree with Charles' trashing modern architecture in London. They're really put up some atrocious buildings recently.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:57 PM
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14. No it's Charles
And they have the goods on him.

Or at least Diana did...and now her butler and friends do.

One more uproar to add to the soap opera the Royals have become.

Which could mean the elimination of the monarchy in the UK.

In other words...your ally is tanking folks.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:04 PM
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15. You are not joking???
Well, I have never had a functioning gaydar (which could have gotten me into trouble, if I were not so shy in bars). But Charles????? He did father two sons, so he must be bi, anyway.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:13 PM
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17. I really can't believe it's Charles
Although Joan Rivers did a great bit about him on her album.

That poor Pricesss Di to be married off to a gay guy--he's waiting for the mother to die so he can be Queen.

And those ears! One burst of wind and he can hang glide over the Falklands.

Early 80's Joan Rivers humor.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:38 PM
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50. Thank you Joey....
you're pitch-perfect recall of Joan Rivers has me in stitches. I can hear her saying that.

It's Charles, folks. No more rumor. NYTimes pulled the story off it's website. Charles was ---ah -- overlapping with his personal aide-de-camp Michael Fawcett.

POOR DIANA...THREE QUEENS hounding her; four is you count the late Queen Mother!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:42 PM
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54. And the whole family--A Bunch of Dogs!
You go out in the street and call Queenie, Duke and Prince and see what comes running!
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:48 PM
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56. yell Bitch
and they ALL look up!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:50 PM
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58. You know, when Joan did her routine in London,
she kept out the stuff about the royal family.

Recall her conversation with Anne? She said, "Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa!"

I asid to myself, "This bitch is putting me on."
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. Many gay men
and women have kids, proves nothing. We know Shrub and Pickles did it once.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:41 PM
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53. hold it right there buddy....
You're not putting Bush into the queer column! No sir...we've got enough problems, thank you very much, without added HIM to the heap.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:12 PM
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16. I think it is Charles too
Look at Camilla! That woman just has "fag hag" written all over her! (I'm gay so I get to say it) LOL
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:14 PM
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18. No, that's proof he's straight, because straight men will sleep with
anything!

A gay man would at least choose a more attractive cover!
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:18 PM
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22. Got your asbestos drawers on, joeybee????
:-) Because that is what they think about US!!!

Of course, neither is true....
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:21 PM
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23. Come on--haven't you noticed all straight men will actually agree with
you about that??????

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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:27 PM
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25. Um, ... no.
My 'straight' friends are at the brewpub every night, and they are as picky as any of us, anytime. Of course, they are all at least 45, and they want 'young'uns', too!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:33 PM
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26. Then they're not straight!
Anyway, you're the only one commenting on this, so I don't think I'll get flamed!
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:37 PM
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27. Hmmmm....
Is THAT why I THINK I catch them staring at me???

At any rate, they are all almost as old as I am. They are TOO OLD for me!!!! :D
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:12 PM
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30. I want to see this flame! And speaking of flaming....
...apparently one of the Royals is!
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:57 PM
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35. Could be any of them because the British public (read private) schools
are full of such behavior inflicted on young boys forced to be away from home all the time as hazing and bullying activities. It must really do a number on their developing awareness of sexuality and appropriate behaviors notwithstanding their real orientations.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:00 PM
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36. Ever read Brideshead Revisited?
Homosexuality is sort of considered a "phase"

Sort of like the Romans and Greeks did--fool around with men all you want, but be sure to have a wife and procreate.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:23 PM
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44. Nope, it's Chuckles
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news/content_objectid=13581159_method=full_siteid=106694_headline=-REVEALED--SECRETS-OF-THE--RAPE-TAPE--name_page.html

Edward is not a senior Royal.

And if it was Phillip...Chuckles wouldn't be the one denying it.

Also Diane got the servant fired soon after...altho I note he's now back.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:26 PM
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46. I now wonder if the story will run without any names...
...you know, just referred to as a senior royal, and all the details will make people figure out who they're talking about.

Well, if this particular story doesn't involve Edward, I'm sure that there are a lot about him just waiting to be told!
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:29 PM
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47. Well there are only 3 senior royals
now the queen mum is gone.....Liz, Phil and Chuckles.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:31 PM
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49. I'll wait until Sunday to see if they name names, or refer to the
person as a "senior" royal or not.

Can you imagine Liz with another woman! Ewwwwwwwwwww!
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:56 PM
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60. Phil's a Greek
Royal in dick only; the Queen's consort isn't really senior within the line. There's 2 seniors, one's a stocky old woman whose not denying anything, and there's this prince of a fellow, you see..

To bring BACK Fawcett after Diana's death is just begging the tabloids to pull the curtain away.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:58 PM
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61. That's why he was good-looking as a youngster
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #44
55. Although....there were rumors waayyy back in the 50's that
Phillip was bi...hmmm.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:48 PM
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57. Ever see pix of Phil as a young-en? He was a stud
Probably got anyone and everyone, if you catch my drift.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:01 AM
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62. those blond Greeks are deadly....
or at least dropdead gorgeous...THAT's where William got wantever Diana didn't already give him.

Harry, the darling poor bastard, and I mean that literally.

'bout Phil, tho...looks aren't everything. He's as cold as ice. The biggest bitch in a bitchin' family.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:03 AM
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63. Yeah, he's evil--he's behind Diana's assasination
But that's a whole 'nother story.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:53 PM
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59. I don't know that
it would be a big deal in the UK.

I don't know that they'd label it either...it's just sex.
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