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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:29 PM
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Jane Fonda on Bush: "If I were alone with him, I would really like him"
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/liz.htm

May 13, 2005

Jane: (Laughter) I was at the White House correspondents' dinner the other night, and Laura Bush was really funny. Her approval rating is way up, as it should be.

Liz: Did you see the president's press conference before that; I thought he was floundering.

Jane: No, I thought he was very impressive. I don't know him, but I have always thought if I were alone in a room with him, I would really like him.

Liz: Well, many people do like him, and he has an informal appealing quality, they say.

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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:30 PM
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1. ahhhh
He's such a douchebag. I don't think I could stand being in the same room with him. Even forgetting his right wing policies, he still has an idiotic personality
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:31 PM
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2. I don't think I could like him in any capacity.
I simply do not trust him. Period.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:32 PM
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3. Hope Her Stupid Movie Doesn't Do Well
now....ugh!
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:33 PM
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4. Jane, unfortunately, has lost her fucking mind.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:39 PM
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5. WHy does anyone pay attention to this woman? Any day, different story
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:45 PM
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6. Proof menopause seriously fucks some women up.
Not that I ever liked Ms. Fonda, but she has gone over the edge in recent months. :wow:
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:03 PM
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10. maybe it's a nudge nudge wink wink....
fonda isn't a goof; she has put up with crap probably no one outside of repeat and i.d.ed sex offenders have had to, for many years. her wealth may have insulated her in person, but with a new movie out, and with freepers possessed of 1 track bushevik minds(?) maybe she's trying to protect the investment of the movie people who put their faith in her....christ, someone spat in her face recently! (and not one anti-bush person could find and punish the asshole who did it)! No wonder fonda says 'hey, i'm totally alone with the forces of mindlessness, so fukkit, let's kiss the creepo's arse for the record!'
i think americans can't be blamed for not being able to stop bush from stealing elections etc, but someone should do something when a lady OF OURS gets attacked in public
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:44 PM
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13. I'd say selling out your principles
for cold, hard cash from a money-making movie is even more seriously fucked up, but since whores are setting the tone these days in the media, I guess it's more acceptable to some.
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:54 PM
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7. She's pushing a book AND a movie
She's desperately trying to break into the "We Hate Hanoi Jane" market.

I lost all interest in her years ago and would just perfer that she go away. I despised her excercise video, book, sportswear and infomercial industry and this new attempt to satisfy her ego and bank account is pathetic.

And the last thing one earth I would ever want is to be in the same room with Crusader Bunnypants, trying his best to "charm" me. That dog don't hunt.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:58 PM
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8. The power of soundbites. I just read the whole article because
Edited on Fri May-13-05 05:02 PM by shance
I was curious at the quotes given.

Read the entire article. It paints a much more positive, broad picture.

In addition, I believe she's right. Mr. Bush is, by those who know him a very, easy going likable person.

That has little if anything to do with leadership and/or being a person driving by ethics and principles. Lots of individuals are very likable.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:02 PM
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9. Well, we have the "4 paragraph rule"...
...and if each paragraph contains one sentence, I can only post 4 sentences...

But our entire reality is based on "context," right?

:toast:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:38 PM
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23. You see, I don't get this..
The guy looks and sounds like the classic bully w/ the IQ of a canned ham; who would find that charming?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:15 PM
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11. Well, I had forgiven her for her stupid trip to 'Viet Nam. But, her
remark about liking Bush in a room was both stupid and crazy. That's it Jane. I'm finally siding with my wife about you. You are obviously a light weight thinker and a loser.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:57 PM
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15. at least she was invited....her stupid trip was by invitation
of the North (later the vietnamese) government... the US was there as part of the takeover of france's colony...this after vietnamese nationalists (called communists by western newsmedia who later on cheered the illegal war buildup...iow, by lying punks) threw the french out militarily ...the idea was the US could afford to kill enough vietnamese to force them to accept the US having a say in running their country (which the Vietnamese refused to agree to, even after 2 million of their people were destroyed)....jane fonda was an heroic person for fighting a mentality which, in our day, gets away with vaster crimes then what their vietnam era cohorts even dared try commit because of people like jane fonda (which the US conveniently forgets; this substantiates the charge that the US deserves a hitler (bush) because it never supported those who fought against the nazipoos long ago...)
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:37 PM
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21. I referred to the Viet Nam trip as stupid partly because
Fonda herself said that it was one of the biggest mistakes she has ever made. Anyway, I already said that I wasn't worried about that. But, I'm sorry that finds Bush to be so charming. She must see something there that I'm missing.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:12 PM
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24. i'm sorry too...
between the commies and the islamic extremists there isn't much opportunity for those opposed to bushinc...but like with hitler, the 'righteous' are dooming their own cause with each little victory....if they were smart, they'd pay fonda to heap abuse on bush, but they aint smart, they stoopid....all this 800 pound gorilla crap eventually is going to become the norm....if it already isn't
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:28 PM
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12. "he has an informal appealing quality"
:puke:

An "informal appealing quality" is something I might look for in a friend, but I'd rather have a president who can string more than three words together without looking and sounding like a buffoon.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:53 PM
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14. He has the "informal appealing quality" of a spoiled frat boy...
who CRIED to his PAPPY, "PLEASE don't let me die in Viet Nam! PLEASE, Daddy, SO something! PLEASE, MOMMY, MAKE Daddy DO something!"

So his fucking PAPPY got him into the TANG...and he DIDN'T SHOW UP...He was too busy chugging down Jack Daniels and PISSING on police cars, challenging Pappy to go "Mano a Mano" with him. What a fucking WORM. What a fucking COWARD. What a fucking LOSER.

Taxpayers' money TRAINED this bitch to fly, and he didn't show up for his physical, so taxpayers PISSED THEIR MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN...

...while GOOD American men and women DIED in Viet Nam.

This is NOT my President. As the Rastafarians are fond of saying, this is a "Ras Clot" who will vanish in 2008. I CELEBRATE the place that is being kept warm in hell for George W. Bush.

:grr:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:01 PM
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16. I really don't want to see her on Bush, thanks anyway.
Of course, looking at her pic, it looks like she's got no eyeballs. Just sockets.

Maybe that explains why she seems enamored of him...
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:07 PM
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17. She sooo USED to be a hero. Sad day. Jane has totally lost it.
First she apologizes for her life, when it's no f-ing business of anybody what she did, does, or will do. Then she "finds Jesus" and loses herself worse than any "commie" crap they ever accused her of getting lost in.

She totally whored herself to sell a book. And now a movie.
Sad, sad day.

This really really bothers me. I protested, sat in, worked for SDS, lost my scholarship, and held my head high, keeping my brothers from being killed in a stupid f-ing war waged by the military industrial complex.

And now, she's applauding the very same people who are doing it all again.

She is so sick.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:19 PM
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18. It's all about her ego. She has proven to have no loyalty. Indeed,
and ironically, those who hated her before now have a very valid point about her loyalty. And, if she thinks she will turn their heads in her favor, I suspect she's very much mistaken.

First impressions can be hard to break.

And while dissenting a war is one thing, narking out American troops or POWs so the other side can find and torture them harshly is, well, not nice. (quite vile, in fact.) She did go too far and I understand why she is not liked. The troops she condemned were not the problem, the COs and warmongers who sent out the troops were. There is a distinction here. And it's no different than whatshisname who, in 1998 regarding Clinton, said "we can support the troops without supporting the president". (not that I support the war but I would never directly or otherwise put harm to a troop!!!!!! x( )

I'm surprised the Viet Cong didn't make an example out of her at the time either. We were the enemy, so why not make an extra example? Of course, human tactics is something I was never good at, but it's always like that in movies.

She made a TERRIBLE mistake. One that those she hurt would NEVER even begin to forgive her for. And if she thinks she can change their minds, she really will be in for a shock. Meanwhile she's doing to us in spirit what she did to the soldiers.

Was she really genuine during Vietnam? Or just looking out for herself?

She is sick. And her own actions raise everything I've said and everything else everyone here has said and a lot more.

And you're right. It's not our business. Well, it shouldn't be except she was tapdancing in a minefield of public interest. So people WILL look and they WILL comment and they WILL make decisions. And the more she goes back and forth between political sides only shows, like how Norm Coleman is, she's more concerned for her own sake than she is for anybody else or any true ideals - one way or the other.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:34 PM
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20. Did I say that correctly? I meant....
...to me she was a "hero" NOT because of what she did (I didn't think she needed to go that far)... BUT she always seemed to stand up for what she believed. A strong woman when they were few and far between in my young-womanhood.

Yes, the soldiers were NEVER the issue. I do not know anyone who disrespected a soldier. I mean it... nobody I knew did that. We wore bracelets for POW's. We wept when they came home. We wept when our friends came home. I have lost so many men to that war, men who came home.

So, I always thought I was standing for something. And I thought, okay, Jane stood, too. Took heat for her beliefs.

I agree. No loyalty. No courage.

And now she's kissing their asses and they still hate her and always will. Actually, the only ones who can feel for her are probably those of us who know how hard it is to do the unpopular thing for the right reason even though our loved ones turned on us.

Well, at least I didn't have to do that. My father apologized to me...when he realized how his government, his Repub guys, sold us down the river in that war. Standing for my convictions actually got my father's respect.

That's why her whole aura really makes me sad now.

Did I say that right? Sheesh.... long day.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:20 PM
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19. If I were alone with George Bush
well, its unpostable... :grr: :grr: :grr:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:38 PM
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22. If I were alone in a room with Bush, I'd be looking for the quickest
way out. That boy is crazy and dangerous.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:18 PM
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25. Just make sure you didn't end up walking into a closet
thinking it was an exit.... bet there are a whole lotta skeletons in there...
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