I hate judges who think they are better than anyone else

[shesemsmom]

especially judges who are standing in for the *real thing* This judge was standing in for the juvenile court judge and is a real HOG..... drinking and other things and had the nerve to tell me that, my child who was given detention for walking out of a class where she couldn't get help * special needs* doesn't have ADHD.. that it was just a *buzz word* well that buzz word and cost me thousands of dollars in treatment and meds and test. I have written the regular judge and asked for a written apology from this *bitch. Oh BTW, that is how they handle things here if your kid gets detention..... you have to go to court...:mad: If I don't get that apology in 30 days I'm taking it to the State Judges bar. now am I being a Bitch and if I am I want to be a BIGGER one that her. BUZZ WORD MY ASS!!!:grr: :grr: :nuke:

[Floogeldy]

1. When did this happen?

Can you give us some more factual background?

Thanks.

[shesemsmom]

2. My Kid walked out of class on Tuesday last week

she had repeatedly asked for help and became frustrated,,, as ADHA will after a time and said.. screw this and walked out. We had to go to court on Thursday for a hearing, they said formality as she was already serving her 2nd of 3 days in detention. The judge began making an issue of her grades and I explained that they had her in special needs class and trying to main stream her and she said* what is her disability and I said ADHD. That is when she laughed and said oh that is just a buzz word and I said no... it's a legitament medical diagnosis nd she takes meds and is in counciling..... she said* I said in it is my opinion that it is not a medical problem and she didn't want to hear another word from me. It was all I could do not to walk out and call my attorney/ personal friend who by the way would have loved to have taken her on. He fired her from his firm some time ago.I am so mad I could scream She left me with the impression that we were shit on her shoe.......

[Floogeldy]

4. You have a lot of anger

You are on this board ranting about something that happened five days ago. You should have a better handle on it than that.

It might be that your daughter is mirroring your frustration.

My suggestion is that you be calm and encourage your daughter to act accordingly.

I pray that you get just results.

[shesemsmom]

6. Your right I do

I have a child that can't get help when she begs for it and a school system that doesn't care and doesn't have enough teachers to go around but can bond us out for millions of dollars to build more rooms we don't need, handles a problem with her by sending her to court, to see a sit in Judge how doesn't recognize illness for what it is and I just worked 3 12 hour days in a row and this is the first time I've had a chance to complain about it out side of writing a letter to the judge who usually sees the cases. So yes I have anger. She isn't mirroring mine. She is fine, I am PISSED!!!!!!!!

[Floogeldy]

9. What do you mean when you say, "can't get help when she begs for it?"

What are you talking about?

You are giving us very little in the way of facts.

Specifically, what problems is your child having?

[shesemsmom]

15. My child asked for help in class and was denied

repeatedly so she walked out of her regular class and went back to the special needs class, that is why she got detention.They are main streaming all the students they can because they are so short of teachers and they are cutting more teachers next year.:mad: So off to the court we went, for detention of all things.To see an idiot judge

[Floogeldy]

20. You didn't answer my question

What did she need help with?

Thanks.

[shesemsmom]

24. Her English class

spelling definitions

[Floogeldy]

28. What medications are you on?

If any?

Thanks.B-)

[shesemsmom]

30. Triazadone

and I like it.... never needed it till I had kids

[shesemsmom]

3. ANYONE have any other suggestions as to

how I should handle this

[Spider Jerusalem]

5. Move?

If your kid has to go to a court hearing for getting bloody DETENTION in that school district, and your neighbours are running drug labs out of their kitchens, well...MAYBE it's time to think about relocating. But that's just me.

[shesemsmom]

7. I would love to

the problem is we own this house and the school is supposed to have alternative school for ADHD and don't provide it due to lack of funds. So they are main streaming everyone. We may have an out on the house, We are working on it. We have a chance to move, but it is of course in the same school district but a better neighborhood

[Spider Jerusalem]

8. You might want to look into what's called an IEP...

individual education programme. That's an accomodation they're SUPPOSED to provide for students with learning disabilities, at least in several states that I know of. Not sure what the law is where you are, but I gather it's supposed to be fairly standard. And if your daughter is being essentially DENIED legal access, you might have a case to have her transferred to a school district where they CAN make that accomodation without having to move.

[shesemsmom]

11. We have IEP meeting scheduled May 17

for her placement next year. We have one every year at this time and she was doing reasonably well till this happened. She just gets frustrated because others are ahead of her and it's because she is so far behind. We held her back a year and that lasted 6 months and the school moved her back. Now I find our we have been left out of a lot because she has been pushed and can't make the darn state testing ISTEP. The kid goes to school pracically year round trying to keep up. They have pushed her to mainstream and she is almost ther but not quite and she gets frustrated. I just made the doc take her off some of the meds a few months back. Abilify and seriquil. One an antiphycotic, that has terrible side affects and she is still on 3 drugs. I am looking in to alternate school. I hope we find something soon, I don't want to stop her progress

[Spider Jerusalem]

13. Seroquel is scary stuff.

I have Asperger's Syndrome, and my doctor put me on Seroquel briefly. Turned me into a zombie. No fun at all. I've heard Strattera is supposed to be decent for ADHD, though. Is she on that?

[shesemsmom]

19. Yes 60 mg a day

I just read a new report on deaths linked to seriquil. I'm glad I got her off of that. She takes triazadone and zoloft and has made great stides with that

[Spider Jerusalem]

21. The doctor who put her on Seroquel was incompetent...

the only reason they ever give that to someone who's NOT schizophrenic or psychotic is because they decide it'll be easier to sedate them.

[shesemsmom]

25. I agree

I fired her. My daughter is seeing only the family doc for meds now. I had a long talk with him and told him I believed she was over medicated and he agreed. I made an appointment with the shrink and told her she was fired.
my kid was on
seriquil 100 mg
abilify 5mg
triazadone 100
zoloft 150 (My pharmacist freak over that)
stratara 60

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. An alternative school for ADHD?

I've never heard of that.

Does your daughter have a 504 or an IEP?

[shesemsmom]

12. Not alternative school, alternative classes

they did away with the alternative school. She has an IEP.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Most kids with ADHD are fully mainstreamed

with some special ed support. But it's not very realistic to expect your daughter to be in special ed classes for more than an hour a day. Unless she has severe learning disabilities as well as ADHD, she will most likely be in a regular classroom all day.

She needs to learn not to walk out of class. Have you looked into anger thereapy for her?

[shesemsmom]

22. Yes

she has been to anger classed. I would call it frustration on her part. When she keeps asking and she doesn't get help, and they tell her if she doesn't get it done she wont get a grade it gets to her.I told her she is to stay in class and call me next period if she can;t get help. She was okay with that

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. Has she talked to the school counselor?

And has she walked out of class before? Seems kind of extreme to refer her to court if this is her first time. But if she has done it before, it could be school policy or even state law to involve the court.

On second thought, is this a regular court or a school hearing officer?

[shesemsmom]

29. No she hasn't walked out of class before and yes it is regular juvenile

court. She got beat up in school last year and of course they knew she didn't start it she went to the floor and covered her head, but this is how they handled that, both girls had to be put in detention because they couldn't play favorites, if you are involved in a fight, thats where you go. Even if it is an attack and you dont fight back. Is that asinine or what The teachers said it wasn't fair and saw all of what happened but the courts say all involved have to be punished. So off to court you go.

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. So is she back in court now because she was referred

there last year?

[shesemsmom]

33. Nope

she was in court because she walked out of a class where she asked for help so many times and told no that she started to cry and went back to her special needs class. It has nothing to do with 18 months ago.

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. So for walking out of class ONE TIME

she is referred to juvenile court? Sounds rather harsh. Do you have an attorney?

[shesemsmom]

35. That is what I think too

and yes we have an attorney but didn't realize we needed one on Thursday. But I have talked with him and he is disturbed as to how this was handled. From the school systems part to the court house. I wonr go to court again with out one. Our next IEP meeting I am going to write on the papers that this sort of punishment is unacceptable

[proud2BlibKansan]

38. You might not be able to write that in the IEP

If it is the school district's policy to refer kids to juvenile court for disciplinary violations, you can't override that policy in the IEP. Your best bet is to work to get that policy changed for the entire school district. And I would encourage you to do that, cause that is crazy.

In my state, the district has a hearing officer who handles discipline referrals. But kids are not referred to the hearing office until they have been multiple offenders, never for a first offense like walking out of class. Kids are only referred to juvenile court for violations of the law, like bringing a weapon to school, assault, etc.

[Wapsie B]

14. Can you get help through your dept. of human services

in your state? We've got to in this state in order to have access to a number of social services. In Iowa we'd rather cut funding for touchy feely social programs and express shock and horror when a tragedy occurs. Gotta save that $$ for prison contractors.

[shesemsmom]

16. Thats an idea

our governor just cutting schools to try to balance the budget. He help my budget when he cut my hubby's job... another story

[Wapsie B]

23. Sometimes that's the only way.

Btw, you wanna see anger? Just ask me about the state of mental healthcare in this country and how people wonder in shock about kids who shoot up schools in Colorado and Minnesota. We're all in this together. Believe me.

[shesemsmom]

32. I understand there are real problems out there

but they carry things to the extreme here. Unless it is something important, then you cant get them to budge

[HEyHEY]

17. You have to go to COURT for a DT?

Explain...why, where do you live, what the fuck?

[shesemsmom]

27. Oh yes

Indiana, some county's have received funds at the request of the judge to handle problems with the kids at school this way. Isn't that something. Another way to make money. They also told us we wouldn't need an attorney.... ha.. If I ever go again for this nonsense he'll be there. That is what you get here for walking out of class after asking for help, not once but many times.

[LynneSin]

36. And just think, the repukes want MORE judges like that on the bench

are we special

:sarcasm:

[shesemsmom]

37. Oh yes, we are so special

they would just lock the kids up if they were able and didn't have parents who cared enough to stop them What I live in here is a police state. I wish I had my gun back. I feel like barricading:hide: