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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:11 PM
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Dude, My book is rated #1 this week on the NYTimes bestseller list
Ok, that's Michael Moore's book.

Rated #1. Poor Bill O'Lielly. He had a week at number #1 but that damn Al Franken and now Michael Moore are keeping him out of the top.

Liberals & Progressives should be pleased all around with the great book selections available in the NYTimes bestseller list:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/26/books/bestseller/1026besthardnonfiction.html


Hardcover Nonfiction

Published: October 26, 2003
#1 DUDE, WHERE'S MY COUNTRY? by Michael Moore. (Warner, $24.95.) The author of "Stupid White Men" calls for "regime change" in Washington.
#2 WHO'S LOOKING OUT FOR YOU? by Bill O'Reilly. (Broadway, $24.95.) The host of "The O'Reilly Factor" attacks those individuals and institutions that he believes have let down the American people. (Lynne's note: GIve the guy some credit - he's not bulking his sales)
#3 LIES (AND THE LYING LIARS WHO TELL THEM), by Al Franken. (Dutton, $24.95.) A satirical critique of the rhetoric of right-wing pundits and politicians.
#6 BUSHWHACKED, by Molly Ivins and Lou Dubose. (Random House, $24.95.) Two Texas journalists offer up an indictment of the Bush administration. (Lynne's Note - gotta love our gal Molly. THis is my next book purchase!!!)
7 MADAM SECRETARY, by Madeleine Albright with Bill Woodward. (Miramax, $27.95.) A memoir by the former secretary of state and ambassador to the United Nations. (Lynne's Note - She worked for Clinton so we're happy to see her here)
8 THE GREAT UNRAVELING, by Paul Krugman. (Norton, $25.95.) A volume of essays, most from The New York Times, that are "mainly about economic disappointment, bad leadership and the lies of the powerful." (Lynne's Note: I'll be enjoying this book on my flight to New Orleans this week)
9 PERSECUTION, by David Limbaugh. (Regnery, $27.95.) The author of "Absolute Power" argues that "liberals are waging war against Christianity." (+) (Lynne's Note: Yes, Rush's brother is in the top #10. This book was out for a few months until it 'suddenly' started to sell. Those bulk sales are probably to help pay for his brother's rehab stint)
11 SHUT UP & SING, by Laura Ingraham. (Regnery, $27.95.) The political commentator attacks the "elites" of Hollywood, Washington and New York. (+) (Lynne's Note:Geez Laura, they at least kept Ann Coulter in the top #10 for a few months. They have already cut back on your bulk orders in only a few short weeks)
12 BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, by Walter Isaacson. (Simon & Schuster, $30.) A biography of the scientist, inventor, writer and Revolutionary statesman. (Lynne's Note - Ben was progressive in his time so we can claim this one too!)
19 STUPID WHITE MEN, by Michael Moore. (ReganBooks/HarperCollins, $24.95.) (Lynne's Note: He was barely in the top 35 last week. He must have gotten a boost with his other book. And this one has been out for like 70 weeks now)
20 LIVING HISTORY, by Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Simon & Schuster, $28.) (Lynne's Notes: Hillary is still hanging in there. She's been out longer than Annthrax book and not once have we seen the bulk order symbol next to Hillary's name. Class will always outsell crass)
23 REAGAN: A Life in Letters, edited by Kiron K. Skinner, Annelise Anderson and Martin Anderson. (Free Press, $35.) (Lynne's Notes: Didn't this book just come out? Obviously NO ONE cares about that decrepit horrible man that I hope is suffering great pains for dozens of more years)
29 THE LIES OF GEORGE W. BUSH, by David Corn. (Crown, $24.) (Lynne's Note: This book hasn't gotten much press but I may need to buy it to see what it's all about!!)
35 BIG LIES, by Joe Conason. (Thomas Dunne/St. Martin's, $24.95.)(Lynne's Note: Good to see Joe still selling, another book on my list of books to buy)

So if you have a few dollars, why not support our progressive writers. If you can't afford the books, then ask your Library to have these books available for you to check out.

Gotta love this list!!
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:16 PM
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1. Wow!
Shows a whole lotta people are thinking and questioning!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:09 PM
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30. note the bulk sales
Ingraham's book and Limbaugh's book both have the code indicating bulk sales, which means the wingnuts are skewing the NYT list by buying thousands and then giving them away as freebies.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:17 PM
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2. Good to see Molly up there at #6
I hope she goes even higher. I will do my part and buy her book this weekend.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:19 PM
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3. Just finished Al Franken's book today...
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 06:20 PM by alg0912
...and will start MM book's tomorrow.

And might I say that I am PROUD to read only books that are NOT denoted by asterisks or knives (i.e. the REAL best sellers...) Can any of our "friends" on FR say that?

P.S. I'm an old Franken & Davis fan from waaay back...

on edit: captain morgan error correction... :evilgrin:
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:11 PM
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31. Frankens is better then MM's
MM's is kind of tin hattish.
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:28 PM
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34. What's Tin Hattish?
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:24 PM
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43. It;s full of sort of maybe conspiracy theories.
I prefer Frankens book that shows absolute facts.
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:27 PM
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33. Did Franken and Davis do SNIGLETS some years back??
During the 80s, Sniglets were the words you don't find in the dictionary...
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:30 PM
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35. NO, that was Rich Hall
whatever happened to........
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:50 PM
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39. Now that you mention it...
I can visualize his face...

I remember "Nerkel" was the comb-over

Esso-asshole (see how old this was!!) was the person who cut across the gas station on the corner to avoid the intersection

Furboling was when you go through all those ropes in line at the bank even when no-one is ahead of you...

Heee heee
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:20 PM
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4. Here comes the heat...
Sorry if I annoy some, but let's face it. Michael Moore is the polar opposite and equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. Both are windbags. Both are incredibly pompous. Both doctor facts and expect their fans to believe it all for truth. Whose truth? We all know about Rush's problems. We all know about (but many choose to ignore Michael's) problems.

Honest, open, factual debate is refreshing, entertaining, and informative. Bombastic overkill is simply mind-numbing.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:22 PM
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5. Hmmm...
Last time I checked, Moore wasn't hooked on drugs (unless you consider cheeseburgers a drug...)
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:25 PM
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8. You're absolutely correct
...but that in and of itself is not an explanation or excuse for the winbag properties of both. We need to be able to see the trees.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:29 PM
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9. Hardly a wind bag.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:45 PM
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14. Silly me..
Here I am looking for dialog and all I get is verbal drive-bys. *sigh*
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:49 PM
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16. If you were to match "facts" per source...
MM would lead OxyRush 5 to 1...

(ratatat as I speed off again...)
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:52 PM
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18. LOL
I love this stuff...and you've a sense of humor to boot.

Just think of this as a NexTel version of debate? (A la the NexTel "Romeo and Juliet" commercial?)
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:51 PM
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17. "Sorry if I annoy some..."
You're forgiven. Anytime anyone starts a Michael Moore thread on this board, someone with a low post count starts telling us what a liar he is. We've come to expect it.

Amuse me - tell me about Michael's problems that I'm choosing to ignore. This should be good.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:01 PM
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20. Post count is immaterial
Im just looking to have a little lively debate. Read my original post. I'm a fan of neither.

Let's start with the Columbine implication that MM got his rifle immediately upon opening the bank account. You can say directorial shorthand if you want, but I stand by my thought. Getting the rifle that way is just NOT possible in Michigan.

O.K. Let's move on th Rush's statement (made repeatedly) that "end users" of illegal drugs must be punished as well as the pushers. Is he voluntarily submitting to procedution and incarceration? I think not.

My entire point is simple. Hyperbole is not necessary when you have soild facts for any case. The use of ranting, bending the truth, and attack dog tactics only serve to distance many of those who might be swayed to your view.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:40 PM
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26. Why when anyone criticizes Moore's "factual errors" .....
All they can point to is the bank scene in one movie. What in his books is factually inaccurate?
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:44 PM
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27. Hypocrisy
O.K. Let's move on th Rush's statement (made repeatedly) that "end users" of illegal drugs must be punished as well as the pushers. Is he voluntarily submitting to procedution and incarceration? I think not.


Of course not. He thinks all his bullshit rhetoric should only apply to Democrats. Not to mention how he distorts and manipulates the facts and just plain makes things up as he goes along.

Back pain, my ass. He's a fucking junkie and a crook to boot. And excuse me, but past experience tells me to be suspicious of those who minimize the motives and actions behind his highly charged and hateful hyperbole. You will find no help to further that end here.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:06 PM
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21. Another thought...
reference low post count...I wasn't aware that there is some sort of competition to be the wordiest member of DU. Quantity of comments made is far less important than the value of comments made. Duke Ellington taught me that. "Just beecause there are 88 keys on a piano doesn't mean that you have to play them all at once." Duke was the master of the tasty single note.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:20 PM
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23. What are Michael's problems?
You say he has 'em, so cough 'em up. We're listening. I didn't know he had any. Except being overweight, but I like bears so that's no problem...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:34 PM
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25. Actually MM has lost weight
He's dropped about 50lbs so far. In the back of his book he claims it's from eliminating anything that says "lowfat" from his diet.

But he did lose some weight!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:33 PM
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24. I don't remember Moore going on ESPN and spouting
racially divisive opinions either.

But yeah there exactly the same. Not.

Dude, where's a clue?
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:15 PM
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41. I don't think Michael Moore is bombastic...
in the same sense that Rush is...though I can see where you would make that comparison. Maybe I am biased because I am more inclined to agree with Michael and rarely agree with Rush. Hard to be objective. Though I think their approach is different. I would appy bombast to Rush so much more than Michael. He is more like audacious. His approach and presentation are not all that similar to Rush's. I think it's more the agitation quota that is similar.

People that don't agree with either are going to get their shit stirred up, guess the methedology and how they got there is immaterial once the reaction kicks in? (ok that probably made no sense, sorry, articulateness is not in my stars tonight!!)

Even though I don't agree with Rush on very much, he is entertaining anyway.

But Michael Moore has a couple of things that Rush Limbaugh is lacking: Ethics, Compassion...there's no comparison here!!
XXXOOO
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:22 PM
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6. Incidentally...
I loved "Shrub; the Short But Happy Political Life of George W. Bush".

Not a recent offering, but well worth reading.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:23 PM
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7. Bwah-ha-ha....Treason is no longer on list, but.....
....Stupid White Men is. That means that Moore's book outlasted two of that Nazi Coulter's books.
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:46 PM
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38. I couldn't even get through the first couple of chapters of Slander
Her language was so cicumlocutionatious (ok I made that one up, now all's I have to do is put a number after it and pretend like I had a legit source, right?!)

She made no sense at all and if she thinks applying the word "Liberal" is going to legitimize her blather...(unfortunatley there are actually people that fall for it...stooopids....)

Well, I don't want to have what she's smoking....

ANN COULTER - - - :puke: :puke:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:29 PM
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10. Liberals: We Buy Books And Read Them!
Could be a new slogan (I have all of these top-rated gems). Good for Mike.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:32 PM
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11. Here are the one's I've recently purchased:
I'm reading approximately one a day right now:

Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth Joe Conason

Bushwhacked: Life in George W. Bush's America Molly Ivins

The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Truth About Corporate Cons, Globalization and High-Finance Fraudsters Greg Palast

What Liberal Media? The Truth About Bias and the News Eric Alterman

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right Al Franken

Thieves in High Places: They've Stolen Our Country--And Its Time to Take It Back Jim Hightower

We're Right, They're Wrong: A Handbook for Spirited Progressives James Carville

After getting some good suggestions from DU'ers in this poll I did, I just ordered the following books that I will get some time next week

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=289154

Buck Up, Suck Up . . . and Come Back When You Foul Up : 12 Winning Secrets from the War Room
By: James Carville , Paul Begala

Dude, Where's My Country?
By: Michael Moore

The Radical Center: The Future of American Politics
By: Ted Halstead, Michael Lind

Stupid White Men ...and Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation!
By: Michael Moore

The Greatest Sedition Is Silence: Four Years in America
By: William Rivers Pitt

The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception
By: David Corn

It's Still the Economy, Stupid : George W. Bush, The GOP's CEO
By: Paul Begala

The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century
By: Paul Krugman

Shrub : The Short but Happy Political Life of George W. Bush
By: Molly Ivins, Lou Dubose

The Clinton Wars
By: Sidney Blumenthal

Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative By: David Brock

The Bush Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder
By: Mark Crispin Miller

Our Flag, Too: The Paradox of Patriotism
By: William Rivers Pitt, Pitt Rivers William (not yet published)

*****************************************************************
These are on my wish list in the event I ever get through all the books I've already ordered!!


The Woman Who Wouldn't Talk by Susan McDougal, et al

The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton by Joe Conason, Gene Lyons

Had Enough? : A Handbook for Fighting Back by James Carville

Pigs at the Trough: How Corporate Greed and Political Corruption Are Undermining America by Arianna Huffington

Is Our Children Learning? : The Case Against George W. Bush by Paul Begala

Wealth and Democracy: A Political History of the American Rich by Kevin Phillips

Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace by Gore Vidal

Who Will Tell The People? : The Betrayal Of American Democracy by William Greider

The Politics of Meaning: Restoring Hope and Possibility in an Age of Cynicism by Michael Lerner

Globalization and Its Discontents by Joseph E. Stiglitz

Weapons of Mass Deception: The Uses of Propaganda in Bush's War on Iraq by Sheldon Rampton, John C. Stauber

War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know by William Rivers Pitt, Scott Ritter (Contributor)

Living History by Hillary Rodham Clinton
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:41 PM
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37. Great Reading List!
Between my brother and I, we have a lot of the books you have mentioned, the rest we get from the local library. We were like 47th on the list for Stupid White Men, so we bought it.

I printed your post so I won't forget to check out the rest of your list. Happy Reading! (OK, actually not happy...)
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:06 PM
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40. "Happy Reading! (OK, actually not happy...)"
I see what you mean. So far I've read Franken's book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: by Greg Palast (talk about depressing), and tonight I'm almost finished with Bushwacked by Molly Ivins. It's all informative and I have every intention of continuing as I feel I need to be better informed about all of this, but it surely is NOT happy reading.

Later tonight I'll get started on either Big Lies by Conason or Thieves in High Places by Hightower. Both guaranteed to make my blood boil, I'm sure.
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:19 PM
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42. Franken's book gave me an unusual reaction...
Boiling over with anger whilst laughing my ass off on how he puts things!

Strange combo, indeed!!

XXXOOO

Keep reading and then spread the word...lots of uninformed people out there!
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:36 PM
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12. I bought it today
It was on sale at Borders for 30 % off, so I got it for around $18.

You know what was funny? There was no + next to Michael Moore's name, like certain other non-fiction "best-sellers".
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:41 PM
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13. I saw it today at my local grocer
Sadly, it's kinda thin. I may wait for the paperback (where he'll undoubtedly add more material, as will Franken), or buy it when I see him at Xavier University at the end of the month. Book signing afterward - I may get to meet and take a picture with him.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:48 PM
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15. Possible squawk about bulk orders.
I'm wondering if we're ever going to see them try to advance an argument like "the reason they get shown as bulk orders are because book store owners are mostly liberals, and if someone buys two copies of a conservative book then they report it as a bulk order, and they ignore the bulk orders of liberal writers." :eyes:

(Just like Al Franken is trying to get people to use the phrase "kidding on the square", I am trying to do the same with "squawk". Basically, it's something parroted from right-wing propaganda, usually in an effort to dismiss any further discussion of an issue (as opposed to proving an alternate point). Two widespread squawks were "they counted the ballots twice already" and "economies are cyclical".)
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:55 PM
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19. What were #'s 4 & 5 on the list? You left them off.
Reason for that?

Thus far, in the last 3 weeks, I've finished Al's book, and Scott ritter's "Frontier Justice". Just started "Big Lies" by Conason, ans then it's off to Molly's new one. Nice to have some good Fall reading material to cozy up with, next to the fire, with a hot toddy.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:38 PM
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28. Probably because #4 and 5 were not political books
Looks like she only listed political books and several others were left off as well.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:08 PM
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29. I only listed political related books
I mean I could cover Lance Armstrong and John Edwards but most folks here probably wouldn't have been interested.

:shrug:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:17 PM
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22. Concerning #23
As a human, I feel sorry for Reagan's plight.

On the other hand, we all know what he and his buddies did. Let him suffer for a long, long time indeed; it'll pay back the pain America has been feeling ever since and won't stop until we get a non-centrist progressive back into the white house to sort things out. Or Dean, he's cool... (and, yes, I do feel uncomfortable in saying that about Reagan.)
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:24 PM
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32. Dying to Read 'Dude"
We have "Stupid White Men", loved it...Michael Moore is just a hoot. We also have Al Franken's new book, also loved it!
That list looks like a who's who of must reads (with the exception of a couple...namely Ann Coulter, Republican Crack Whore)

Joe Conason is another...Molly Ivins...David Corn....(good excerpt from the Nation from his book)...Madelein Albright (good article in a recent New Yorker about N.Korea)....Phew!!

Don't forget DU's very own William R. Pitt, whose book "The Greatest Sedition is Silence" should be right up there on the list, too!!
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:39 PM
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36. thanks for the notes!
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 10:39 PM by PittPoliSci
:hi:
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