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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:13 AM
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So I realized what makes U2 what they are - it's the Edge.
I firmly believe that if U2 did not have Edge as a guitarist, they would never have risen above the status of Echo and the Bunnymen or The Waterboys - Edge is the secret weapon that distinguishes them from other bands. The great U2 albums are the ones where they let Edge get textural, where he creates extraordinary patterns with his guitar - The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, Zooropa.
What would a song like With or Without You be like without the high infinite guitar, e-bow and keyboards? What Even Better Than Real Thing be like without Edge's futuro-Harrison guitar? Not As Good As The Real Thing.
Frankly, Bono annoys me, and Adam is merely a competent bassist. What makes U2 what they are is Edge's guitar and the subtle limbs of Larry Mullen.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:14 AM
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1. a agree wholeheartedly
the Edge does a lot with the chops that he has, and Bono's whining and flailing annoy the crap out of me...
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:15 AM
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2. Yeah - he is their key guy.
Bono gets more unbearable the older he gets.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:17 AM
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3. not to mention that his fashion sense somehow keeps getting WORSE
the glasses, the stupid shirts...
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:18 AM
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5. and clearly the clothes make the man in your world
What's next, "fat people should die?"
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:36 AM
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13. no, he sucks on his own, but nice try.
the "fat" comment was totally brought in by you, and has nothing to do with my comment. bono is a shitty musician, and IN ADDITION to that, he dresses horribly. how's that?
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:12 PM
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20. Just having some fun with you. I forget that sometimes the
sarcasm isn't clear for those that know the history of my postings. I do think U2 rocks though.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:21 AM
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8. He's never really had any fashion sense.
Recall the boots with 'SOUL' written on the sole? The muscleman shirt? The weird outdoors pilgrim look of 1987? He should've stuck with the Fly outfit.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:37 AM
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14. i agree, the Fly outfit was his best and most coherent look
goes along with Achtung Baby being their best work. the muscleman shirt was nauseating, and, if you have to write "Soul" on your clothing, it clearly follows that you have no soul. the whole Joshua tree look was pretty lame too...
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:17 AM
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4. It took you that long?
:eyes:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:19 AM
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6. he's ok in my book
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 10:20 AM by sniffa
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:19 AM
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7. FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........................
The Edge gets his due! Dave Evans is a guitarist for the ages. Totally self-taught and distinctive in sound.

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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:22 AM
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9. Jeez, Wat,
it's been like 17 years since they've released an album that was even worth shitting on, and NOW you get it?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:28 AM
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10. Yes.
My opinion on the post-Moon Who will soon follow.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:34 AM
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11. Kenney Jones was way underrated.
Not as a drummer - as a drummer he was fuckin' dull. But apparently he's quite an accomplished cyclist!
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:35 AM
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12. So much so, he nearly joined Kraftwerk.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:40 AM
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15. And what is it that they are, Wat?
There's only one true musician in the band and he's the drummer. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

The best thing about U2 is that they have a reasonable amount of taste and they've always worked with great Producers (see avatar). And they're not afraid to push the boundries of sound within the context of Pop Music.

They're OK. I'd rather discuss Julian Cope.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:51 AM
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19. They are a competent rock band with flashes of genius.
Obviously Eno is a huge influence on all of this.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:45 AM
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16. most of their producers cite U2 as one of the few bands...
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 10:47 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel
who truly record and write as a group. U2s rythym section really adds to the band. and though i understand how his messianic posturing could annoys some, u2 just wouldn't be u2 without Bono and his theatrics



--adenoid hynkel, DU's resident U2 apologist

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:51 PM
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25. They'd be better with Bono but without his theatrics
:evilgrin:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:47 AM
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17. Watch out!
The Edge will cut you!
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:49 AM
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18. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I wonder if he'll bring Spike along too :evilgrin:
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:21 PM
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21. I don't think you can exorcise Bono from the Edge or U2
Rather like the opposite poles of the band, their styles complement each other, they've said so many times themselves.

Bono may indeed annoy you, but I really don't think U2 would have produced the work it did without him, the good as well as the bad.

But I'm just a singer, what the hell do I know? ;-)
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:31 PM
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22. U2 would be nowhere without the Comsat Angels
Go listen to the first two CSA albums ("Waiting For A Miracle" and "Sleep No More") and you can see EXACTLY where Edge stole his reverb-soaked sound.

"Oh, but U2 didn't know who CSA were?" Yes, U2 DID know who CSA were. In fact, the two groups toured together before U2 hit it big-- and a VERY attentive Edge was closely watching Steven Fellows much of the time.

Too bad the CSA never got any of the media publicity U2 has gotten. It's a damned crying shame when you compare their catalogs, too.

www.comsatangels.net



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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:34 PM
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23. Bono's lyrics and voice, hello?
The band is what it is because of all of them.

I don't think With or Without You would have been as good had the lyrics been written and sung by, say, Joey Ramone.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:48 PM
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24. I listened to Echo's "Flowers" while traveling over Christmas
and was struck with the same thought. Voice sounded similar to Bono, lyrics seemed like they might have come from similar roots, but while it was listenable and familiar, it was vaguely unsatisfying. Throw in some Edge guitar, and it would have been a much better album.
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