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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:20 AM
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Ok I finished my damn Appalachia research paper, yeah ask me something
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:21 AM
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1. Did you learn a lot, Kleeb?
Snicker. I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. I just finished two hellish grant applications and I'm in the mood to tease fellow sufferers.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:22 AM
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3. Yeah I did
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:21 AM
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2. Can you please give us a brief synopsis in 1000 words or less?
:evilgrin:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:22 AM
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4. Easy, don't make seniors in HS do research papers, they kill!
but hey I hear it benefits.
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:35 AM
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5. What can you tell me about Bloody Harlan?
or the Mothman?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:36 AM
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6. hah I dont know
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:39 AM
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10. Kleeb, hint...sshhh..."Mothman's the revenge for Bloody Harlan"
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 12:39 AM by autorank
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:41 AM
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12. John Harlan, the supreme court justice? Mothman? The DIck Gere movie?
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:36 AM
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7. Which side are you on?
"...boys, which side are you on?"
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:37 AM
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8. elaborate?
I am a big fan of the UMWA if that helps.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:13 AM
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36. Check it!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:38 AM
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9. What did Johny Appleseed plant in West Virginia?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:41 AM
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11. apples!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:42 AM
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14. Are you SURE that's all? Put your thinking cap on.
:party:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:43 AM
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15. pot?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:48 AM
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21. No, dental floss! You need to listen to more Frank Zappa.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:50 AM
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29. ahh Ive been told that
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:50 AM
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28. Do your teachers just automatically give you A's because you're so bright?
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 12:56 AM by autorank
If they don't, they should. I'll pay them a visit in your behalf if you'd like (haha). Let them know it's time to clear a path for Kleeb.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:42 AM
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13. Have you ever noticed how the accent of the Appalachians is similar
to those of Northern Ireland?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:44 AM
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16. hah no I havent
Appalachia though covers a lot of south west pa where my grandparents are from and they stuff like how are yinz?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:48 AM
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22. I'm talking about the Appalachians from the Tennessee area
They're directly descendant from the Scots-Irish. Because they lived so isolated for hundreds of years, their accents did not really evolve the way the accents of say the Irish who settled in Boston and NY did.
It's very noticeable when someone from northern Ireland says "bread" or "bed."
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 04:22 AM
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65. That's where country music came from, too
The "bluegrass" they played in the southern Appalachian chain evolved into country. A lot of good country, and particularly what's being called "roots music", sounds very much like Celtic music.

My grandfather wasn't from the Appalachians, but his people were from way back in the woods in Alabama. He would actually use "holp" as the past tense of "helped". That's middle English, I believe.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:08 PM
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66. That's like saying "swole up" instead of "swollen"
"He got bit by a copperhead and his leg swole up like this!"

I actually heard myself saying this to a neighbor one day.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:35 AM
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67. I've said that myself
Picked it up from my grandfather, I guess.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:45 AM
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17. Did you cheat, and use the Foxfire books?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:46 AM
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18. the what, no I didnt cheat
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:50 AM
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27. The Foxfire books.
A whole series of books published in the 70's. They were trying to record, on paper, a disappearing way of life. I think there's about 7 or 8 of them.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:03 AM
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35. I don't think it would be cheating to use the Foxfire books as reference
As you point out, there are an enormous number of volumes and as I recall the text is fairly dense.

I grew up in Appalachia.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:44 AM
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43. After I said that in jest, I realised that those
books probably could have been a great resource. They are truly amazing. I haven't read them in years. I think I'll see if I can find them.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:58 AM
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54. I think they've being reissued...
I've bought a couple recently. They should never have gone out of print in the first place!
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:33 AM
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62. The best was that the writers were,
at least at first, high school kids, given an assignment by their teacher. They didn't just record the skills, but let the reader know the people too.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:48 AM
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19. How many pages was it?
How many words? How many characters?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:49 AM
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24. 6 pages and I cant check the words now because I have it on another comput
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:48 AM
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20. Did you write on the history of Appalachia?
Did you talk about President Johnson?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:50 AM
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25. yeah a little and brought up LBJ
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jellybelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:49 AM
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23. Did your dog eat your paper?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:50 AM
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26. no he cant because its in my binder
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:51 AM
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30. What color binder?
Blue is nice...
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:52 AM
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31. What is the Capitol of Appalachia?
Well?

Answer: Pittsburgh. Actually, Brian O'Neill, columnist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, insightfully nailed Pittsburgh as "the Paris of Appalachia."

(BTW -- gee, Kleeb -- what's your connection to this area? Yins livin' rahn here?)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:01 AM
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33. My mom's folks are from Johnstown and my dad's from Pittsburgh
Got family throughout Pennsylvania. My mom's dad only came down here because he had no desire to work in the mines or steel mills, and my dad's dad worked for the NLRB so he worked in a lot of cities.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:29 AM
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38. But where are you?
Pretty good rust belt street cred, I admit, but what about you? Are you a southern transplant?

What part of the Burgh is your Dad from?

("Norside", "Eeslibry" and "Larnzvul" connections on this end.)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:32 AM
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39. Northern Virginia
I dont know where his parents were from in pittsburgh, if this helps, my great grandparents on that side of the family were middle class and my great grandfather who was a friend of Honus Wagner worked as building engineer in the early 1900's.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:00 AM
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32. Did you learn that it is a high proportion of people living under the
poverty level?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:01 AM
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34. Yes, its really sad
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:15 AM
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37. did you proofread it or do you need someone to proof it?
I'd do it if you needed the help.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:32 AM
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40. Shit I would have someone do it but the actual copy is on my
computer file at the scool.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:42 AM
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41. make sure to do a grammar/spell check
and you will do just fine. Good luck.

Hey did you read anything about inbreeding in Appalachia? I remember the stories about blue babies...
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:43 AM
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42. no I didnt, thats disturbing thoguh
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:44 AM
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44. Kleeb, hold out your hand
so I can paddle it...LOL...
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:45 AM
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45. this isnt Catholic school damnit
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:49 AM
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48. Or do you want me to kiss your hand instead....
hell no, I don't want to be accused of being a Mary Kay LeTourneau!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:52 AM
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49. hah I know who that is, shows how much I fuckin read
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:55 AM
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50. BA HA HA
Good luck with the paper. You must brag if you got an A, right?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:56 AM
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52. I wont get one though
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:46 AM
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46. do you still love me even though i couldn't find you in DC last week?
i really looked!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:48 AM
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47. You looked?
I wasn't supposed to be there, that was last thursday right? I had a phone job interview with Congressman Obey's office that day. I am supposed to be in DC next week not last.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:56 AM
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51. i thought you were going to the protest....
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:57 AM
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53. I am going to the protest next week
I cant fucking wait, I am actually gonna be living in DC for a few days.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:06 AM
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55. cool.... i picked my battle due to timing and personal stuff and
i hate crowds and fascists so i'm a little unnerved about the coronation.
glad you will be there to represent!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:07 AM
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56. yeah I am glad I got a place to stay to be honest.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:14 AM
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57. DC was cool, it's been a few years for me.
different than nyc. wide fucking streets......
i had a blast all day.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:15 AM
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58. thats cool
you see my future hopeful living spot, George Washington University?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:19 AM
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59. nope unless it was under my nose.. where is it?
in the city itself?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:20 AM
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60. Foggy Bottom
which is near the mall.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:23 AM
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61. hey... i drove tthrough there.. i think it looks prety cool, too.
lotsa of old architecture, near georgetown and dupont which will keep ya busy.
babe, you gotta score some id. they ask everybody for it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:34 AM
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63. Do they?
:(
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 04:17 AM
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64. John, how are you doing?
....I wanted to mention the Appalachian Regional Commission(ARC)....Great reference for anyone researching us "poor" hillbillies.....You can contact the ex-Pres. of ARC(Al Smith) through the KETV(Ky Ed.TV)....He hosts a cable show and is a very affable individual that would be a valuable resource....Best Wishes
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