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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:09 PM
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If you had a problem with tics and they said it was psychological,
gave you anti-anxiety drugs, but the tics remained under the same circumstances despite not feeling as anxious, would you then believe that the problem is more neurological than psychological?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:10 PM
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1. Based on that limited information, yes, I probably would.
I would probably go back to the doctor and insist on additional testing if I could.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:11 PM
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2. I would try taking a higher dose.
See if that helps.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:14 PM
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5. Tried a higher dose...
Became more fatigued. To the point where it interrupted my ability to work.

The tics also get worse with fatigue too.

I do know the Zoloft worked for the anxiety, but its side-effects were just as harmful and the tics remained.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:13 PM
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3. I'd go to a teaching hopsital, and find out what's REALLY wrong.
Preferably, one that specializes in neurological disorders, and I'd quit fucking around with the local yokels---- but that's just me.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:31 PM
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16. *crickets*
:shrug:
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:13 PM
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4. I have occasional tics
but though I have an anxiety disorder, they are related to slight nerve damage. I would have it checked out.

It is so friggin' annoying when My eye socket just starts to jiggle.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:16 PM
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8. I've had the eye jiggle too. By now there's got to be some nerve damage,
but I believe there's more to it than that. Especially with my short term having gone crackers on me. I still don't rememember how I'd fallen on Wednesday and everything since is a fuzz, though as I've been home for most of it... I recall dropping by work to get my car but they still drove me home with another behind me, I was still out of it.

Scary stuff.
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:18 PM
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10. See a doctor...
I have had blackouts before and they are scary. It could be something as minor as stress. That is what my blackouts and memory loss moments are related to. It is like my mind shuts down to protect itself.

Good Luck!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:15 PM
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6. who is "they"?
in any event, if it is psychological, you might just not have hit the right treatment yet. different meds help different things, and not all anxiolytics work the same. besides, you may need therapy to address the psychological problem.

however, neurological certainly is a possibility, as is simple diet (low potassium, for instance, can cause tics -- see if a banana helps). many neurologists can identify common tics at a glance, and the basic neurological tests are painless, noninvasive, and over in f minutes.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:18 PM
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Psychiatrists. And I've been diagnosed with so many things and have taken
so many meds...

I know that the tics problem started about 18 months into the Wellbutrin (which I had been taking a high dosage of). Unfortunately, a year after going off the Wellbutrin did the tics return of their own accord. Taking Wellbutrin again (albeit a MUCH lower dose) as the quack didn't believe the problem started from it in the first place both damningly and quickly proved to BE the cause. (and, yes, that one I call a quack... but that's a long story, not related to the wellbutrin, and if my PDA didn't clunk out on me (crappy pocketpc) as I'd taken notes on it, I WOULD have turned him in...
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:15 PM
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7. meds can take a while longer to work..
on some things than it does others. just because some symptoms (anxiety) are better it doesn't neccesarily follow that all will disappear at one. it does sound like you are anxious about it, so maybe although the med is masking anxiety it's not eliminating it. it could take a while, i had a good friend who had tics crazy bad when he felt insecure, and they have disappeared except for after extremely anxious moments.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:21 PM
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12. How much longer? I'm utterly fed up with the system as it is...
Again, long story, and the list of ridiculous diagnoses is too long to mention, let alone the drugs I've taken over the decades. (Yes, I do have an anxiety problem. Yes, I have been diagnosed with ADD though that was a trip through hell and back because the creeps wouldn't bother to listen to me. That's the fun thing with mental patients, they're crackers so obviously they're always going to be wrong. :eyes: )
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:17 PM
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9. do you have allergies?
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 06:19 PM by amazona
Tics have causes besides psychological/neurological. My tic went away when I got a good allergy medicine. I think it was Beconase, not sure, it has been awhile since I needed it as I aged out of my allergies for the most part.

On Edit-- reading further I think you need to see a neurologist. Tics and you're falling? Can't remember anything? This needs to be checked out.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:18 PM
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11. yes
There might be other explanations too. What comes to mind is too much caffeine -- it can cause tics. I would go back to the same doctor at least once before writing him off as an idiot.
Good luck to you.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:26 PM
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13. You don't know the complete story. And I don't ingest caffeine either.
The doc I am seeing now is different from the previous one, who I gave up over a year ago because he was INCOMPETENT... it's too long to mention and the more I think about it all, the more depressed I get. I don't need to be depressed right now. Please just take me at face value and I'm not delirious, and I am not crazy. My co-worker can prove it too, it seems I can't get anywhere without somebody else to back up my claims (which I've told MANY "doctors" in the past but they WOULDN'T LISTEN. Which is typical as far as I'm concerned. Decades of experience prove that too... :-( )
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:07 PM
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14. depression and anxiety can be so hard to treat.. and this time of year +
the election has taken it's toll on most of us. We are seasonal creatures, and the shorter days are killing me, I swear. I need to start some aerobic activity and some meditation before I go bonkers myself. i lost my job almost three weeks ago and it's just hitting me now.
I would say while giving it a bit of time, make sure you are doing as many lifestyle changes that you know of that are proven. Have you tried meditation? I know it's hard to practice, but can be extremely worthwhile. Try Relaxation Response it's not spirtual.
And some daily sunlight and exercise, something to get your heart rate up for just 10-20 minutes can make a huge difference in how you feel. And your B- vitamins everyday, okay?
Alot of studies say these things work as well as meds for some people, so try and give yourself that advantage. In the meantime, do some research in case you feel you need a better doctor. I'd be a mass of anxiety without some occasional meditation myself. Hang in there!

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:29 PM
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15. I've only ever had tics twice, and they were from extreme nerves during
cheering tryouts.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:41 PM
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17. From reading all the replies so far
I would say that you ought to see a neurologist. For a couple of reasons. First of all, having odd blackouts is troublesome. But more than anything else, it seems to me that not knowing what is going on is causing you a lot of anxiety. It could be that the anxiety is exacerbating your tics but at any rate, a trip to a neurologist could at least rule out some things and it may give you some answers. Either way, it seems to me it would help alleviate some of the stress one feels when they know something is wrong but they don't know what.

I'm sorry you're going through this because it is desperately frustrating. I'm going through something similar with a totally unrelated thing but being brushed off and told that there's nothing really wrong when you know there is something wrong is very very irritating. Good luck. :hi:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:45 PM
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18. GO TO THE MOST HIGHLY RECOMMENDED NEUROLOGIST YOU CAN!!
I didn't know about the blackout Wednesday... Do a little research and get yourself to the best you can-- it can make all the difference!
Good luck!
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