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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:02 PM
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Ratings...

how many folks here rate anything other than a one and a five? And what about the folks who get no rating? Personally, I think the ratings here are no more accurate than the ratings Bush gets. Are only registered (non tombstone) folks allowed to rate or is everyone allowed (multiple times even) to rate?

Dave (AmyStrange.com)

DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org /
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org /

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_B...

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_A...
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:29 PM
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1. Seems to be an ongoing debate about the ratings
Generally, I'm just too lazy to rate a thread. Besides, there's just not enough consensus on how they should work. I think folks should use them if they want to though.

:hi:
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:08 PM
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3. I'm too lazy to rate also...

besides, I notice even if folks don't post in a thread they still get to rate it...

Dave (AmyStrange.com)

DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org /
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org /

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_B...

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_A...

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:59 PM
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2. I like the ratings
and I use them. I rate things I feel are exceptional with a 5.

I rate things which I think are funny/exceptional, etc...but which have content some may find dismaying with a 4.

I rate things which may technically be allowed under the DU rules, but which I consider to be either offensive or borderline socially unacceptable. For instance some person might hypothetically skirt around neo-Nazi style hate speech while technically not engaging in bigotry or behaviours which would get one banned. I'd give them a one.

A person might be an obvious troll, - DU would get my advice to skip that thread.

Don't like ratings? That's cool. You don't have to rate, read the ratings or pay them any mind.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:18 PM
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4. What's interesting is...

how if only one paerson rates something a five it takes forever (or many many ones to get it down to a 2 or less.

I find the --- rating funny because I'd rather see that than a five rating. It's more honest than a one to five rating, because ratings have nothing to do with the honesty or truthfilness or factuality of a thread. They are a reflection of popularity and nothing else.

Dave (AmyStrange.com)

DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org /
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org /

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_B...

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_A...


Dave
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:22 PM
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5. because the range of perspective vary so much on DU
I find - in terms of how I might value a thread - the ratings to seem rather arbitrary. Not that the rater(s) are arbitrary - but it is arbitrary who is doing the rating, whether it is one rating or an average of 30, and how my tastes vary compared to who did the rating (esp seems random if only on person does the rating and their views vary greatly from mine, but since I don't know who did the rating I have no idea whether the rating would be any where close to mine). Thus - to me at least they wind up rather pointless. Have quickly come to ignore them for that reason.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:34 PM
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6. agreed...

but they are still there.

I guess my question should be is it better "to rate" than "not to rate". Should I go to all pro dean threads and rate them five and all anti dean threads and rate them one? What exactly would that prove?

I am proud of the fact that almost all of my threads haven't been rated. I like the honesty of no rating better than the dishonesty of any rating. I say dishonesty because rating has nothing to do with actual value...

Dave (AmyStrange.com)

DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org /
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org /

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_B...

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_A...

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:13 AM
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7. Wow! Excellent links, as always! Thanks so much!
Another one I must bookmark!

I only rate those I would rate highly. The others I just skip. Also, unless it's just someone being silly, I would hate to hurt anyone's feelings. I know that we're supposed to develop a ``thick skin'' to survive on DU, but this is a new feature and people aren't yet used to it. It dawned on me yesterday that I have yet to start a thread on DU.2. Maybe, subconsciously, I am afraid of receiving a low rating.
:scared:

This thread gets a top score from me! :D
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:46 AM
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8. Thanx!

and I also appreciate the irony of rating a thread about ratings with a five. That deserves a double five rating from me hehehehe...

Dave (AmyStrange.com)

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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. why not
put these links in a different thread...one that has to do with their topic, not this ratings discourse?
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:49 AM
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10. Because...
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 09:53 AM by AmyStrange
they're part of my sig line...

















(edited their to they're)
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:14 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. He has done this and I had them bookmarked
but that was on DU.1. I must have saved them elsewhere, but am grateful that they are part of his sig line and he's so easy to find on DU.2! :D
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:16 AM
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12. They're parallel to voting in elections, eh?
The same arguments are made against them both.

Rock the Rating!
If you don't rate you have no right to complain!
:)
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. I rate posts, but only highly
Those that I choose to reply to are obviously those I think highly of. :shrug:
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. I love your Ghandi quote...

it is sooo true,



Dave (AmyStrange.com)

DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org /
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org /

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=...

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_B...

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_A...

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:45 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. Thank you, so very much!
I chose between three, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Gandhi.

"I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts." Abraham Lincoln

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt

I have noticed someone with the screen name, T. Roosevelt, has chosen this as his, and very appropriately.

I finally went with the Gandhi quote, because it was closest to my heart. I advocate for animals, so this was most appropriate for me. As for you, you know my feelings! You provide such essential links in every post. I should be president of your fan club! :hi:

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 03:40 PM
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15. Only 5s, and rarely.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:01 PM
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16. Not any longer.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 04:02 PM by philosophie_en_rose
When the feature was new, I rated a few threads. However, as people constantly add and subtract from the quality of the thread, I don't think they are accurate or useful.

I don't mind other people rating things, but it's a bit of a waste. Most threads aren't rated at all.
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