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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:51 AM
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YOUR GOD HAS FORSAKEN YOU! WHY BOTHER PRAYING?
Nothing like being controversial at 7am. Yawn!

Discuss....
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:53 AM
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1. I just got laid
so I disagree...My prayers came true...
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:56 AM
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2. all praise honor and glory due a punk with weird make up
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 05:56 AM by bo44
:evilgrin: and who can't spell for shit.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:57 AM
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3. God doesn't need us
as much as we need God.

And who is to say if God has forsaken anyone? Isn't that a judgement call? Maybe what has happened is your concept of God has grown some mighty deep cracks before it is shattered on the rock of Truth.

Just my take on it.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:06 AM
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4. Maybe God thinks that we should stay vigilant and strong and fight
the battles against tyranny and evil ourselves? Life was never meant to be safe or easy, and God always gets the blame for the evil that men do. Maybe we should look at ourselves for being so complacent over the last 20 or so years. We took our eye off the ball after the end of the Viet Nam war. Never should have done that. Now we have to make up for lost time.

God gave us this world. It's our duty to fight for what is right against what is wrong. The history books are full of the names of those that showed determination, sacrifice, and courage to stand up for the poor, aged, children, etc. We are no different.

Anyway, that's how I see it.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:13 AM
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5. But why.................
take such a hands off approach to his creation? I mean if I were to have created the heavens and earth I'd want to make sure the whole thing was run a little more efficiently.
"God's will", I know..........
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:34 AM
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6. Because our worth as human beings will be determined by the
choices and sacrifices we make.

There's a GREAT song by Ian Hunter on All American Alien Boy called God Take I.

God said to me, "Gonna kick your ass
'Cuz all you do is ask, ask, ask
All that energy looking for me when I'm sitting here beside you - plain to see
How I built you cell for cell, gave you sights to see - gave you tales to tell
Even let you help yourself for a while - to take some weight off this busy child.

....

Too long to type the whole thing, but you get the idea. He gave us a start, we have to do the rest.

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:03 AM
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10. That's what I mean..................
why go to the trouble of creating all of this just to let it all go awry? If there is a God I just wish he/she/it would manifest him/her/itself and leave no doubt in anyone's mind that there is a higher power. I have a difficult time with "blind faith".
The song you suggested is just one man's supposition of what God's plan is, it has no basis in fact. I find that in many things relating to religion, people put their own slant on things and call it God's plan.
I'm 53 years old and have battled with this since childhood. Why, if there is a God, Jesus etc. have they not manifested themselves to put and end to all of this foolishness that man complicates his life with? The only answer I ever get is "It's God's Plan". That's not good enough for me. It seems like a catchall phrase that just reinforces the "Blind Faith" meme.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:49 AM
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7. Who's god?...
some people pray to trees, Lots of gods out there today for them.

Clarify please...:)
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:51 AM
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8. Dear God...

Dear god, hope you get the letter and...
I pray you can make it better down here
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
But all the people that you made in your image
See them starving in the street
'Cause they don't get enough to eat from god
I can't believe in you

Dear god, sorry to disturb you but...
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
And all the people that you made in your image
See them fighting in the street
'Cause they can't make opinions meet about god
I can't believe in you

Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!

Dear god don't know if you noticed but...
Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image
still believing that junk is true
Well I know it ain't, and so do you
Dear god
I can't believe in
I don't believe

I won't believe in heaven or hell
No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
No pearly gates, no thorny crown
You're always letting us humans down
The wars you bring, the babes you drown
Those lost at sea and never found
And it's the same the whole world 'round
The hurt I see helps to compound
That father, son and holy ghost
Is just somebody's unholy hoax
And if you're up there you'll perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve
If there's one thing I don't believe in

It's you
Dear god


--Ahhh, pure XTC.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:02 AM
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9. My favorite MT quote:
...a God who could make good children as easily a bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave is angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell--mouths mercy, and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him!
- No. 44, The Mysterious Stranger
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:28 AM
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13. Touche...nm
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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:07 AM
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11. when your god has forsaken u
stop giving money to his middlemen
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:07 AM
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12. God has forsaken us?
How about we have forsaken God. God gave us free will and we are so fucking weak (myself included) that we do what is satisfing to oursselves and not what is actually the right thing to do. Fast food, free porn, trickle down economics. All quite satifing to us beut not the thing that is right for all of us. I think God has given us what we need but we are just too frigging selfish and lazy to just us it.
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