Friend update

[Mobius]

As a few of you may recall, my friend John was very near suicide a for the last few days. I asked for postive energy from alot of people, and spent the last 36 hours talking to him. We tried suicide hotline and such, but they apparently didnt have any openings to see a therapist for a week and that therapist was leaving for thr summer 3 weeks after that. He is really against medication, so I am there for him when he wants to talk. He had a phone converstaion with his mother for several hours, which I think helped alot. I cried several times during the last 36 hours and I told John that if he left this world, I would get much worse than anything he was seeing now. He is feeling much better today, and even went out for a long bikeride. His mother is trying to set up appointments that she will prepay for some kind of low income counseling and seeing if she can make more headway than John was able to.So keep sending your postive thoughts and well wishes, because I really think it is helping.
Thank you to all
Mobius

[GOPisEvil]

1. That's good to hear.

Glad his mother is stepping up for him. That's a good thing.

:grouphug:

[Mobius]

2. I hope she comes to visit

she lives out of state. Thanks GOP

[bratcatinok]

3. I was wondering how he was doing.

See if there is a Jewish counseling agency of some sort in your area. My ex and I went to marriage counseling several years ago in Houston and we went through a Jewish agency even though we aren't Jewish. Their fees are based on a sliding scale. I can't remember the exact name of the place in Houston. If I talk to my ex in the next couple of days, I'll send it to you in a PM.

Also, did you call the national line for suicide? 1-800-suicide, If you didn't call the national line, you might be able to get some further assistance from them. Sometimes the MHMR (Mental Health) can be a good resource for help. Their number should be listed in the front of the phone book under Other Important Numbers.

I've been sending prayers for your friend.

[Mobius]

5. yes national and local

I live in Wisconsin. The texas thing on my profile is meant as a joke. I will change it

[bratcatinok]

7. I knew it was a joke from the last time

we posted together. I think the Jewish agency is done nationally though and isn't just a Texas thing. That's the reason I suggested it as well as the MHMR tip. These are places that will be in each state.

You don't have to change it on my account since I'm not confused. :)

[The empressof all]

4. An important fact to be aware of though

When individuals who are experiencing suicidal feelings begin to feel better their chances of suiciding successfully actually increase. The theory is that with an increase in energy they are more likely to attempt. In addition some folks feel better because they actually have the will to do it.

Please, please make sure your friend is professionally assessed. Does he have a plan- Does he have access to a way to suicide--guns, pills

I know many folks are anti medication but anti depression medication can be very helpful and it is not a lifetime commitment. Death is.

[Mobius]

6. He had a plan

He was going to buy some vicodin. He has a car and sharp knives. If he really wanted to, he could find a way. He has been professionally assessed many times before. Many therapists are actually firghtend to take him on as a patient when they hear of how horific his childhood was, which I wont discuss in detail here. I have known him for 20 years. He might consider meds as he told me in the last 36 hours. He has 4 cats he doesnt want to leave, because he knows I dont have the means to take care of 7. I think seeing me so desperatlt sad made him realize how selfish it was. His phone call from his mom (who is a therapist) helped a great deal. He also wrote a letter to everyone else in his family, explaining his anger at thier abuse. Putting it in the mailbox and sendiong the anger away I think helped a great deal. His mother is the only one that never abused him, she is his adoptive mother, his biological mother was a monster.

[bratcatinok]

8. Wubette is correct

Not only is it energy but you get to feeling better because you are no longer in anguish about the decision to do it, you've made up your mind. That's the most dangerous time for someone who is suicidal.

My Dad committed suicide in 1981. Three days before he killed himself, he called each of us individually to check to see how our life was doing. Since we all appeared to be doing okay and he didn't have to 'fix' anything, he went ahead with his plan.

[The empressof all]

9. What state are you in

Local community mental health centers are a great resource and will not turn someone down for treatment if someone is in need. If they do there are even ways to get around that. You can message me privately or even contact your local affiliate of the NAMI (friends and family advocates for the mentally ill) for resources and assistance. Help is available but unfortunately the Mental Health system is difficult to navigate and sometimes you need to be a squeaky wheel to get things to work properly