10 reasons to keep Franklin D. Roosevelt's face on the dime

[radwriter0555]

instead of Ronald Reagan's:

1. Roosevelt didn't appoint Antonin Scalia to the Supreme Court, nor William Rehnquist as Chief Justice. (As Reagan did.)

2. Roosevelt never traded arms for hostages, and then lied about it.
(As Reagan did.)

3. Roosevelt didn't permit a colonel to fight a secret war out of the basement of the White House, while lying to Congress about it.
(As Reagan did.)

4. Roosevelt's son never said of him that if it weren't for his wife, "he would have wound up hosting 'Unsolved Mysteries' or something.'" (As Ron Reagan Jr. has said of his father.)

5. Roosevelt never answered the question, "What about equal rights?," by saying, "Oh, shut up!" (As Reagan did, at his 1980 victory party at the Century Plaza Hotel.)

6. Roosevelt never declared ketchup a vegetable, or said that trees cause pollution.( As Reagan did. When his campaign plane later flew over a forest fire, Reagan's press aide, the witty James Brady, ran down the aisle shouting, "Killer trees! Killer trees!")

7. Roosevelt never said of Central America, "You'd be surprised. They're all separate countries down there." (As Reagan did.)

8. Roosevelt never greeted a member of his own Cabinet by saying, "And how are things in your city, Mr. Mayor?" (As Reagan did, to HUD Secretary Samuel Pierce.)

9. Roosevelt didn't fail to recognize his own son at his son's high school graduation ceremony. (As Reagan did, introducing himself to his son Michael at Michael's high school graduation ceremony, according to biographer Edmund Morris.)

10. Roosevelt never co-starred with a monkey. (As Reagan did in "Bedtime for Bonzo.")

--

"I would rather have Roosevelt in a wheelchair, than Reagan on a horse."
-- Jesse Jackson, 1984

[SoFlaJets]

1. Randi Rhodes

told us the other day that the reason FDR is on is b/c he started (or was a big part in it's being here) The March of Dimes

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. execellent reasoning

[Kazak]

3. You missed the most obvious reason...

Hello! McFly (to the Freeps, not you Rad.)...The March of DIMES!!!

[Albinonewt]

4. Be fair

There are reasons to switch from Roosevelt. And none of those reasons are "Reagan is better the Roosevelt".

There are pretty specific rules about switching the currency (every 25 years if I remember right).

The country is dynamic and alot of things change with time. Frankly, I think it appropriate to change the currency per the stated regulations.

As for Reagan?

Well, maybe not the best choice, BUT, he was President for 8 years (just like Clinton) and whatever we may have to say about Reagan in the negative it doesn't change the fact that he was President. So I see no problem in honoring him.

But then I would want to see the next person on the dime to be a Democrat, in 25 years. In fact, I would legislate that it HAS to alternate parties to avoid any petty squabbling when the time comes to change.

[Misterpilot]

5. If they are going to put Reagan on the dime,

then Clinton should get the dollar. Bill on one side and Hillary on the other.

[Albinonewt]

6. I'd rather wait

Until Clinton was dead to be on the dollar.

It's just such a visible thing is all. Plus, I don't know that the rules for paper currency are the same as coin currency, I suspect not. I would rather just see the coins changed in the 25 year period and the bills left alone for the historical significance.

[Stargleamer]

8. Then the Lincoln Penny, which preceded the FDR dime

should have changed years ago, along with the Jefferson nickel. If they get to stay, presumably because they were considered "great", then so should the FDR dime.

And of "greatness" shouldn't it matter what the people think? According to the book "FDR and the Triumph of Liberalism", more people have visited the FDR memorial annually than the Washington Monument and the Lincoln memorial--did that book say combined? (!)--I can't remember as I no longer have the book with me.

[Stargleamer]

9. Then the Lincoln Penny, which preceded the FDR dime

should have changed years ago, along with the Jefferson nickel. If they get to stay, presumably because they were considered "great", then so should the FDR dime.

And of "greatness" shouldn't it matter what the people think? According to the book "FDR and the Triumph of Liberalism", more people have visited the FDR memorial annually than the Washington Monument and the Lincoln memorial--did that book say combined? (!)--I can't remember as I no longer have the book with me.

[Albinonewt]

10. They're slow to change

They are slow to change, and I don't know why that is. Maybe it is time to start looking into changing more of the coins.

I certainly don't mind that.

[Stargleamer]

42. Then to be consistent,

you should be advocating putting Reagan's image on the Lincoln Penny, Jefferson nickel, and Washington quarter, rather than on the FDR dime, since these coins have stayed the same for a longer period of time--their 25-year period lapsed considerably earlier.

Also, it seems strange when you write that Clinton should be dead, before we put his likeness on currency, but it's OK for us to proceed with the Reagan dime, even though he's still--at least by some measure--considered to be alive. You'll might reply that there's some difference between coin and paper currency, but that's purely arbitrary.

Finally, why should Reagan be the one to be so honored in order to be fair? Why not someone more Americans feel should be honored like MLK, or a Republican like Theodore Roosevelt?
Consider that LBJ will never be honored on any coin because of the Vietnam war, why should Reagan be given that honor given that more people became poor during his reign, Nicaraguan harbors were mined (rather unfairly, as they didn't get an opportunity to mine our harbors) and arms were (unfairly!) supplied to the Contras. Not that I want LBJ to be honored--the point is that when presidents do things that are ethically wrong enough to be "beyond the pale" in the harm they cause--like Reagan and LBJ--they shouldn't be honored.

[LiberalFighter]

51. 25 years????

How many years has the current

penny remained unchanged? 1909
nickel remained unchanged? 1938
dime remained unchanged? 1946
quarter remained unchanged? 1932
I know we are going thru the "states" quarters but what happens when that is completed?
half dollar remained unchanged? 1964
dollar remained unchanged? 1971 previously last minted in 1935

It seems to me the only hard currency that has changed has been the dollar and those changes for the most part have been unfavorable.

As for the 25 year statement by you... A design may not be changed more often than every 25 years unless Congress determines otherwise. (Info provided by the Federeral Reserve Bank of Atlanta)

Not the same as there must be changes every 25 years.

They could consider adding a new coin like maybe a 2 cent or 2 dollar that would open up new portraits. Reagan on one side and Nixon on the other???

[rasputin1952]

59. I just recv'd a 1919 Lincoln penny in some change...

That means that the "25 year" rule is out the window. IOn fact there is no such rule.

But, there are specific laws against putting LIVING human on currency of the US.

O8)

[Pathwalker]

7. 11: Roosevelt was polio's most victim, so

when the MARCH OF DIMES helped bring about a cure/vaccine for polio, it was the PERFECT SYMBOL for this achievement. Reagan never did anything for the March of Dimes. A sense of historical perspective is in order here; it isn't just an insult to Roosevelt, or every American who ever had polio, it's an insult to every school child in America who sent in those dimes so their relatives(like my cousin) could be rid of that awful disease! If the Republicans need Reagan on a coin, then let them replace IKE on the silver dollar!!!

[Albinonewt]

11. Oh please

It's not an insult to anyone. As we (as a nation) grow older historically it is not a terrible idea to honor more of our historical leaders rather then to dig our heals in because he like a paticular one.

There's no good reason not to change the dime, except that some partisans don't want to trade a democrat for a republican, which I think is a little petty.

[Pathwalker]

12. Maybe that's because you're lucky enough, or young enough

to not remember what polio does to a person. I am referring to the SYMBOLISM of Roosevelt being on the dime. The Historic symbolism - not Political. If you find historical symbolism so petty, then why have ANY of them on coins? I find Roosevelt on the dime to be a symbol of a great AMERICAN achievement - we found a cure for polio. Republican children saved those coins too, and back then Republicans weren't so damned partisan that they didn't support it, way back then. Putting Roosevelt on the dime was approved by the Republicans too, and even Nancy Reagan has commented on THAT, as well as HOW FITTING it is to have Roosevelt on the dime. Just because you're too young to remember history is no reason to toss it in the trash bin. This isn't about politics to me - it's about HONORING history.

[Albinonewt]

13. Are you done kavetching?

Seriously though, there's nothing wrong with removing ANY figure from any coin, as I've said. There really isn't. Roosevelt isn't the only person in history to do good. And Reagan did preside over the end of the cold war, which was a monumental historical accomplishment. And I'm sure in the next few decades another president will have a monumental historical accomplishment.

Polio is obviously no laughing matter and is serious and it is a great accomplishment. It is, however, not the end all be all of our existance as Americans. No single historical event is.

My point is simply that we are a dynamic country that changes constantly. There is no reason why the dime (and other coins) also change as symbol of our dynasim.

[Albinonewt]

14. Line should have read

There is no reason why the dime (and other coins) can't also change as symbol of our dynasim.

[Pathwalker]

15. I do not know what kavetching is, so I guess not.

I have never heard the word, and it isn't in my dictionaries, so I probably won't stop. I have yet to see any compelling argument FOR removing Roosevelt from the dime, since it has more historical reason for being on THAT PARTICULAR COIN than changing it to Reagan. Having Reagan on the DIME only serves to DESTROY the HISTORIC SYMBOLISM of Roosevelt being on it, and would only generate animosity among us ancient Americans who are still alive, and remember that historic symbolism. Maybe you could wait til my generation is dead. I am not objecting to Reagan being on a coin - just THAT coin.

[Albinonewt]

16. Because

It's time for the coin to change. Look up the department of treasury's rules on it. The coins are mandated to change every 25 years. Admittedly the rules are followed as stringantly as they should be, but that's the way things are.

Now, accepting the historical significance of the dime and Roosevelt the contention that he HAS to be on it because of his affilition with the March of dimes is a little stretched. You make it sound like defeating Polio was the pinnacle of American accomplishment and for that reason he shouldn't be removed because some people that remember him are still alive?

That's silly. If you take it as a slap to the face or as someone saying Roosevelt isn't important then I don't know what to tell you, except that neither of those statements is true.

His time is up is all. And it's time for us to remember something else from our history. And maybe someday he'll be back on the dime. But for now it's time to move on and let somebody else's accomplishments reign for 25 years. And then it will be someone else's turn.

[Pathwalker]

18. Tell me why it has to be the dime?

Lincoln has been on the penny since I've been alive, Jefferson on the nickel, Washington on the quarter...why must Roosevelt be removed from the dime? You are arguing the much larger point of changing the face of coins from time to time, while I am arguing the specific idea of removing Roosevelt from the dime. If it's just about changing the face of coins, then why are all the other coins excluded from this upgrade - let's throw them all into the pot. Change them all, since historic meaning no longer applies. Reagan on the dime has no symbolic meaning that I can see, so why not choose another coin. WHY the dime? The answer, as I see it, is to remove Roosevelt's legacy - one of the most blatantly political actions designed only to destroy Roosevelt's legacy. If it's so important to have Reagan on a coin(and don't the rules also state that it must be a DEAD president?), then let it be on ANOTHER coin.

[Albinonewt]

19. TO my knowledge

the rules do not state he has to be dead.

And I've said several times that I support all the coins being changed on the 25 year schedule.

And I don't know why the dime was selected and not the others. Maybe because it's the only coin anyone really has the will to change. I think they should all be changed.

And no, it is not move to destroy anyone's legacy. It's a move to begin honoring someone else's legacy. No President has ever had a legacy destroyed by losing a coin, bill, or stamp face. It simply hasn't, nor is it likely to ever, happen.

[King_Crimson]

17. Suggestion here...

We could invent a 3 dollar bill and put St. Reagan's likeliness on it! I can think of no better way to honor his excellency!

[Albinonewt]

20. Eh

Then we put ourselves in the posistion of constantly creating new currency for the sake of putting new faces on it.

I'd rather see the bills made permament and reserved for the founding father with coins rotating every 25 years.

(I know not all the bills are currently founding fathers, but I think it would be a nice gesture to our heritage)

[11 Bravo]

21. Let's cut to the chase.

If we just go ahead and rename our nation's capital Reagan, D.C., will you, and Bob Barr, and the rest of the Reagan worshipers finally shut the fuck up and go away?

[Albinonewt]

22. Did you even read what I wrote?

I started off by stating the Reasan may not be my first choice, but he was President when the cold war ended and he was a 2 term office holder so I have no problem honoring him.

I also made it clear that I think it should be equired to alternate between major parties whenever switching the person on the coin.

I would say that any President who did not a) get impeeched or b) get censured or c) have to leave the White House in a disgraceful manner should not be elgible for the honor of appearing on a coin. All others should be elgible. (basically Nixon isn't allowed because he had to resign disgraced, and although I liked Nixon I don't think someone that was forced to leave the Presidency should be afforded such an honor)

[thebigidea]

23. yet for some reason Clinton has to die first, but Reagan doesn't

so what did you like most about Nixon, his subtle charm or bottomless paranoia?

[Albinonewt]

24. That's different

I said that in response to being on a bill, not a coin. Plus, I also mentioned that I would prefer the Bills were preserved as a historical symbol. PLus, unlike coins, the picture on the bill is pretty important for indentification pruposes. Meaning, a quarter is a different size then a dime, so Elmer Fudd could be on the quarter and you'd still know it's a quarter. Since all bills are the same size and shape its nice to know the face won't change.

My only problem with putting Clinton on a coin right now is that his wife still serves in the senate. Plus, there is a possibility that we'll be ecting her President some day so I think it would be weird that he's on a coin and (sort of) in the White House at the same time.

I'm not saying that should disqualify him, it's just a little weird, that's all.

[thebigidea]

25. you're just saying that you prefer Reagan to Clinton

and such a shame the resignation got in the way of Nixon's grand legacy, huh?

[Name removed]

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[thebigidea]

28. say, how about a lecture about how Reagan won the cold war?

and then maybe a stirring tribute to Spiro Agnew.

[Albinonewt]

31. Reagan was President when we won the Cold War

Just like I said. He was President when it happened.

It probably would have happened under another President, but it didn't. It happened under Reagan. Just like the tech boom could have happened under a different President, but it didn't. It happened under Clinton.

[thebigidea]

33. Reagan was a stooge of the first order, a wrinkled puppet, a lousy actor

why you want him in your pants pocket is beyond me.

Would his shriveled head grant you a certain serenity?

[Albinonewt]

35. Want him in my pants pocket?

That was kind of funny.

But seriously, the time limit on the coin is up and it's someone else's turn to be on it.

Maybe instead of just picking Reagan's name out of hat there should be a nominating committee.

That wouldn't be a bad idea either. Change all the coins at once every 25 years have a selection process to choose each new coin face.

[thebigidea]

36. why? the time limit is up? what's the rush?

Can't you even wait until that creep is dead before you smear him all over my change?

[Albinonewt]

40. It is up

The treasury department guidelines clearly state every 25 years the face should be changed. That's why the time is up

[thebigidea]

43. then why has this guideline been conveniently forgotten?

hardly much of a rule if it isn't followed.

Look, I understand your love of Reagan and the rush to put him on a coin - he was a great man, and the very sound of his voice cured a case of the clap I once had. Don't worry, keep praying at his altar, and it will take care of that psoriasis of yours eventually.

[LiberalFighter]

62. I think albinonewt is really Mark Souder

Mark Souder being the congressman that authored the bill to put reagan on the dime.

If the guy is not Souder maybe it is Newt Gingrich since newt is in his handle. Newt and Souder were such good buddies.

[11 Bravo]

57. Your entire premise is false. (What a surprise)

There is no time limit. A coin's design can not be changed in LESS than 25 years without congressional approval. There is no mandate to change the coins every 25 years.

[11 Bravo]

27. So he was a two-term office holder.

Do all two-termers have an airport, a major government building, and efforts in play to name something after them in every county in the United States? Fuck no, they don't. (But in the spirit of the moment, I have named my penis Ronald Reagan; so you and Bob Barr can scratch Fairfax County, VA off your to-do list). Still, the Reagan worshipers (and you certainly quack like that particular breed of duck) are not satisfied. Nope, they've got to have the dime as well. When you start clamoring for a Grover Cleveland coin, let me know.

[Albinonewt]

29. Such hostility

You know, someone can advocate changing a coin without being a Reagan worshipper.

Especially since I made care to state that my posistion is not based on replacing Roosevelt with a paticular person, but rather in adhering to the current rules on coin change AND to show a broader section of history and updating that broader section of history every 25 years.

I also was careful to not attribute any specific qualities to Reagan. My statement of his historical significance was simply that he presided over America at the time the cold war ended and that that even was an important historical event and worthy of being remembered.

And Besides Reagan how many 2 term Presidents have there been in recent memory. Only Clinton comes to mind and I'm sure he'll do just fine with commerative schools, buildings, and the like.

Not as good as Bob Byrd of course, but nobody has that many buildings named after him

[thebigidea]

30. golly, I wonder why people just don't like Reagan on DU?

if you have to wonder about that, phew...

[Albinonewt]

32. I don't wonder about

I wonder why they can't be civil about it, but I get why they don't like him.

Which I why I was so careful to not advocate any of his policies or accomplishments. But, then again some people just need to pick a fight.

[thebigidea]

34. careful not to advocate? What are you talking about?

you even have praise for the Nix!

Of course you're an advocate for his "policies" and "accomplishments" - that whole cold war canard is straight outta the RW talking points playbook.

[Albinonewt]

38. Do you deny the cold war ended while Reagan was President?

Because that's all I said. That he was President when it ended. I didn't even say that we won it (although we obviously did).

I just said that it ended, and he was President.

But, by all means, keep picking a fight over what your imaginiation conjures up.

[thebigidea]

39. by all means, keep praising a cretin

I'm sure his drooling carcass appreciates your staunch advocacy. Nancy says hi.

[Albinonewt]

41. I'd like to think so

But it seems unlikely

[11 Bravo]

58. My hostility is not meant for you personally.

Rather it is intended for what you so clearly represent; that vast, amorphous mob which somehow believes that Ronald Reagan was ever able to find his own ass with both hands. He did nothing other than explode the deficit, break the law (arms for hostages), and by virtue of his air of amiable vapidity, make complete indifference to the plight of the poor palatable to much of the American public. His legacy? I wipe my ass with his legacy.

[LiberalFighter]

52. Nixon was elected to two terms

[LiberalFighter]

61. Many of those historical leaders have been honored

in different ways. One of those ways is the postage stamp.

[BigBigBear]

37. Reagan

was a fraud wrapped in a soundbite.

[TahitiNut]

44. For reference ...

One cent (penny): ABRAHAM LINCOLN - Republican
Five cents (nickel): THOMAS JEFFERSON - Dem.-Rep. (Anti-Federalist)
Ten cents (dime): FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT - Democrat
Twenty-five cents (quarter): GEORGE WASHINGTON - (no party)
Fifty cents (half-dollar): JOHN F. KENNEDY - Democrat
US $1 coin (old): SUSAN B. ANTHONY - (no party)
US $1 coin (gold): SACAGAWEA - (no party)
US $1 bill: GEORGE WASHINGTON - (no party)
US $2 bill: THOMAS JEFFERSON - Dem.-Rep. (Anti-Federalist)
US $5 bill: ABRAHAM LINCOLN - Republican
US $10 bill: ALEXANDER HAMILTON - Federalist
US $20 bill: ANDREW JACKSON - Democrat
US $50 bill: U.S. GRANT - Republican
US $100 bill: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN - (no party)
US $500 bill: WILLIAM MCKINLEY - Republican
US $1000 bill: GROVER CLEVELAND - Democrat
US $5000 bill: JAMES MADISON - Dem.-Rep.
US $10,000 bill: SALMON P. CHASE - Republican
US $100,000 bill: WOODROW WILSON - Democrat

It seems to me that replacing one feeble-minded corrupt President (McKinley) with another (Reagan) would preserve the bipartisan balance of our currency.

[Pathwalker]

45. So, is this "silver" dollar coin I have a fake?

The bank gave it to me! It has "LIBERTY", "In God We Trust", "1776-1976", with a side-shot bust of Eisenhour on the front. On the back is the Liberty Bell & the Moon, "E Pluribus Unum" and "ONE DOLLAR" on the back. If it's a fake, I'd like to know.

[TahitiNut]

48. Well, that's nice. It must be a great comfort.

I drive a 1991 Chrysler LeBaron ... but they're no longer being built. Nonetheless, I'm still allowed to drive it.

So what? :eyes:

Surely the relevant distinctions between "legal tender," "in circulation," and "being minted" aren't obscure.

[Pathwalker]

49. Well, I have an 80's Chrysler Diplomat

named Madyline. Just getting PARTS for it are a challenge. Sorry for taking up your time. I collect old coins.

[TahitiNut]

50. (lol!) We both have great taste, huh?

(I love my pervertible LeBaron.) I come by it honestly, though. My mother has a 1977 Chevrolet Monte Carlo with less than 50,000 one-owner miles on it. It's all original with an almost flawless interior. People see it (here in the Detroit area) and salivate. I personally laugh at it and call it the Queen Mary. It's amazing how over-powered it seems compared to more recent cars.

Re: coins. I haven't spent a penny in over 30 years. While I don't go out of my way to collect any ... I've got a jug full that makes my friends and family think I'm (Tahiti) nuts, merely a result of emptying my pocket of such coins at the end of most days. It's just something I've done on sheer drain-bamaged whim -- no point to it whatsoever.
(It's nice to have something so totally pointless in my life.) :silly:

[Hippo_Tron]

54. When did they make bills over $100?

And when did they stop?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

55. Whoa! 5,000? 10,000? A F***ING HUNDRED THOUSAND?

Now I'm curious! Is there a link to facsimiles of those bills?

[TahitiNut]

56. The larger bills are only used in certain transactions between ...

... Federal Reserve Banks, as I recall. They're not allowed in general circulation.





The $100,000 Gold Certificate was never released into general circulation and was only used in fiscal channels. This note cannot be legally held by currency note collectors.
http://www.moneyfactory.com/document.cfm/5/42/1359





Currency notes of denominations above $100 are not available from the Department of the Treasury, the Federal Reserve System, or the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. On July 14, 1969, the Department of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve System announced that currency notes in denominations of $500, $1,000, $5,000, and $10,000 would be discontinued immediately due to lack of use. Although they were issued until 1969, they were last printed in 1945.

These notes are legal tender and may be found in circulation today; however, most notes still in circulation are probably in the hands of private numismatic dealers and collectors. If you are interested in purchasing these larger denominations, it is suggested that you contact private dealers or collectors who are usually listed in the classified section of the telephone directory under the headings of “Coins” and “Hobbies.”
http://www.moneyfactory.com/section.cfm/5/42

[NoPasaran]

46. Historic Figures on Coins

Abraham Lincoln was placed on the penny in 1909 for the centennial of his birth, replacing an Indian head meant to represent the Goddess of Liberty. In 1959 his sesquicentennial was marked by including the Lincoln Memorial on the reverse side.

Thomas Jefferson has been on the nickel since 1938--- the bicentennial of his birth. He replaced an Indian head.

Franklin Roosevelt was placed on the dime in 1946 following his death in 1945 do to his association with the March of Dimes. He replaced a Goddess of Liberty (sometimes referred to as Mercury due to the feathers on the goddess' helmet.) Oddly enough, the reverse of the old dime had depicted the Roman symbol of authority, the fasces.

George Washington was placed on the quarter in 1932 to mark his bicentennial. He replaced a stsnding Goddess of Liberty. This representation of the goddess had a bare breast. Good thing John Ashcroft wasn't around to be offended.

John Kennedy was placed on the half dollar in 1964 following his assassination. He replaced Benjamin Franklin, who had previously replaced the Goddess of Liberty.

The dollar coin seems to be the one most tinkered with. There have been many gaps in its production and it is also the only coin whose size has changed since the Nineteenth Century. As the 20th Century began, the dollar featured---the Goddess of Liberty. Following World War One, a new portrait of Liberty was introduced and the reverse included the motto "Peace", so these are often called "Peace Dollars". After several decades with no production, the dollar was revived in 1971 bearing Dwight Eisenhower on the obverse and an eagle landing on the moon on the reverse. The Ike dollar did not find favor in circulation; the complaint was it was too large. It was replaced with a smaller coin. Eisenhower was replaced with a portrait of Susan B. Anthony. The Anthony dollar was not popular either; now it was too small and easily confused with the quarter. The color was changed so now the coin is brass-colored and depicts Sacagewa with her infant on her back. Outside of what the stamp vending machines at my post office give for change I have never seen one of these in circulation.

The Historic figures shown on our paper money have remained unchanged since at least the introduction of the modern "samll" paper notes in 1928.

[knight_of_the_star]

47. Here's another one

Roosevelt worked to make LESS people poor, Reagan made more people poor.

Roosevelt beat the Nazis and Japan. Reagan gets the credit for beating the USSR, although they were already falling apart and pretty close to collapse anyway.

[Hippo_Tron]

53. 11. Nancy Reagan is against putting ronnie on the dime...

Enough said

[rasputin1952]

60. Why not put RR's face on Toilet paper?...

that's about all the SOB is good for anyway!

:evilgrin: