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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:08 PM
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How Bush managed the unthinkable
I think this weekend's BSE news has done something no Democrat ever imagined would happen in a million years: He put Texas into play next year.

The last I checked, beef is a huge industry in Texas, and it can't stay that way without exports. Thanks to Bush's rollbacks of meat inspection standards, those exports have now vanished.

How we take Texas: Our candidate must, without further delay, eliminate the Streamlined Inspection Program. The SIP requires that only a sample of carcasses be inspected by a government meat inspector; pre-SIP, each carcass was inspected.

We must eliminate the practice of putting animal protein in cattle feed. It makes cattle grow faster; it's also how BSE is spread.

Further, we must ensure that all downer cattle are euthanized then cremated, and that all euthanized animals are kept out of the food system. It is currently legal to go to the dog pound on Euthanasia Day, load up with carcasses, run them through a meat grinder, mix them with grain and feed them to cattle. That's insane.

Cattle producers need regulations like this. It's gotta be uniform. Otherwise XYZ Farms, who does things right, has to raise its prices a buck a hundredweight over ABC Farms and Wal-Mart comes in and tells XYZ "if you don't start feeding dead dogs to your cows again, we're going to take our business elsewhere."
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:13 PM
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1. They feed dead dogs to cows?
Say it ain't so :-(
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:30 PM
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2. They feed dead dogs to cows; also to dogs and cats
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 09:37 PM by Military Brat
Our government allows pet food manufacturers to use what are known as the 4 D's in dog food: dead, dying, diseased and disabled. These pitiful animals, either already dead from whatever killed them, including by euthanasia, are taken to rendering plants. The rendering plants process them as part of food for your beloved pets.

Can you imagine eating something which has died of a cancerous tumor, or diabetes perhaps? Anybody ever wonder why our pets get cancer and other diseases when we treat them so well and feed them expensive "high-quality" food?

I buy pet food which is specifically manufactured as being non-4D, guaranteed. It's spendy, but that's mostly because of shipping costs to get it to the remote area where I live.

Edited: I'm going off-line now, but in case anyone wants to know, the food I get for my dog is Abady. I sincerely would never buy anything else, having had another extremely precious dog die from developing lymphosarcoma after being switched to Hill's Science Diet on the recommendation of the vet. Years ago, Hill's Science Diet was putting ethoxyquin as a preserver in their food, and only stopped when consumers and enlightened veterinarians expressed outrage at all the animals who became sick and died. Ethoxyquin is used in tires, and manufactured by Monsanto. Pet food is a subject which I do not treat lightly. My past ignorance killed my best friend.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:35 PM
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3. Which dog food..
do you buy?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:13 PM
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5. This cannot be kosher.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:11 PM
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4. I'm pretty mad (no pun intended) with the cattle industry
here in Texas. I suspect they paid grande campaign contributions to Too Stupid To Be President so they could have the regs relaxed. Now they are really going to pay for their greed as their market drops. Serves them right. But since they won't blame themselves, let them blame TSTBP.

But I'm still mad as I tend to eat a lot of beef. (I'm suspicious of fish from the coastal waters of Texas due to the Superfund projects, etc.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:15 PM
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6. Eat pasta this week.
Let them feel fear. No fear, no stringent regulations.

Lots of good things you can do with pasta.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:24 PM
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7. Hey, what are we supposed to eat now?
I cannot help this, and I know it is inappropriate, but I am giddy and laughing about this whole thing. Sorry. Please do give me some slack.

I have a freezer full of beef, which I bought at Sam's because, well because the price is better. I know, Walmart ain't good, but nevertheless, I buy meat at Sams every three months or so and spend about 300 dollars on it. It is generally, I will say, superior in taste and cut, to that of my local supermarket.

anyhow, so here we are,with a freezer full of beef , pork , chicken, shrimp and lamb and now we don't know whether the beef is good--"?????meanwhile we have eaten half the beef, so I don't see any reason to not eat the rest, because if we get the shaky cow mad disease in ten or fifteen years hence we will be near 85 years old--and I am sorry, please forgive me, but, at this point, I find that very funny. LOL LOL LOL :bounce:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:35 PM
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8. An almost unreadable thread
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 10:41 PM by nu_duer
I barely got past the initial post and then had to abandon the next post (actually post #2) just barely in. Diseased animals being made into food for other animals. The whole thing - the blood, the flesh, the slush - I couldn't go on. Just unbelievable.



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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:41 PM
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9. You may be on to something here.....
This is something that the public would respond to....

Perhaps it is definitely an issue Democrats can use.....

After all, The Bush Administation uses Phone "Terra Alerts" to keep the Public controlled through fear.....

Perhaps Democrats could use that tactic against them by using the fear of something that is REAL and TANGIBLE to turn potential voters against the Republicans.....

As the General from the movie Wargames once said, "At this point I'd piss on a sparkplug if I thought it would help....."

But this is a real issue and one that could have dire consequences for the public health and saftey.....Unlike the phony "Terra Alerts" this is a REAL threat.....IF we can get the public to care, and IF the Democrats can make it an issue, maybe we have something here.....
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:59 PM
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10. Sounds like...
Soylent Green for pets...

Ick.
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