Beautiful young shock troops for Bush

[ChrisNYC]

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/07/28/bush/index.html

At a weekend pep rally in Washington, a thousand college Republicans clap, cheer and party -- and reveal a troubling dark side.

There were three others with her -- another blond 19-year-old Georgetown student, Chris Sibeni, chairman of Hofstra College Republicans, and Jeffrey Chen, a recent Johns Hopkins graduate. Sibeni and Chen puffed on Fuente cigars.

SNIP

"I'm a Republican because liberals make me sick," said Sibeni, spitting out the words. "I don't like whiny people and tree-huggers."

"You're a tree-hugger, but the tree you're hugging is the money tree," joked Chen, a jocular 22-year-old who plans to attend law school next year at either Boston University or Tulane.

SNIP

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[Gringo]

1. All I can say is

:puke:

[Born_a_Democrat]

2. I just showed this to a co-worker

who is very much pro-Bush and it kinda stopped him in his tracks to see Republicans acting this way...

It may do him some good to see the truth...

His first question was..."why haven't I seen this in the news anywhere?"

Of course I explained it's because of the "liberal media"...

I don't know...he had a puzzled face...

And by the way...you guys should subscribe to Salon.com, it's one of the last sites left that tell it like it is

[Michael Daniels]

3. I belonged to the Virginia Beach chapter of the YR

For a couple of years after grad school and a bunch of more annoying elitists you couldn't find if you looked for it.

Half of the meetings would be spent trying to figure out how to screw the Northern Virginia chapter's candidate out of the presidency for the state association meeting that was being held in Virginia Beach that year.

From reading the descriptions in the article in doesn't seem like a lot has changed.

[treefrogjohn]

9. I lasted in YR just long enough to turn me 180 degrees

I went to college in 1965 and, coming from a Republican family and not yet having learned to think for myself, I joined the campus YR group after being approached. I think the only reason was a desire to have some social contacts with people I imagined would be like me. The first meeting I went to the main topic was an upcoming demonstration on campus, either pro-civil rights or an early anti-Vietnam demonstration, I can't remember which. We were informed at that meeting that the FBI was looking for YR members to volunteer to attend that demonstration and take pictures of all the demonstrators. Those would then be added to the FBI files and we would be "doing our part for freedom." Somehow my mind and my stomach were both turned and I have been a staunch Democrat ever since. I ended up joining that demonstration and many others since.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. This is the Republican Party!!!

That's why I'm a card carrying Democrat. We have been slandered as extremists and America haters!!! What the HELL IS THIS!!! Is HATE American???????????

ACHTUNG: Racists, Bigots, Xenophobes, and Nationalists are the modern Republican Party!!!

[w13rd0]

5. Ah, the new age brownshirts...

...fueled on hate and meaningless jingoism...

These f*kups hate America so much, why don't they leave?

[SayitAintSo]

6. My My ... this will warm your heart ....

Prime time evidence of the dumbing down of our kids ... and the utter selfishness of this ME-generation we are bringing into adulthood now.

God help us

[ChrisNYC]

7. In defense of said generation

I just turned 25 and this sickens me as much as anyone.

[searchingforlight]

11. I believe you are more the norm.

My job is to interview and socialize with many young people today and I find the majority of them to be caring, tolerant, involved people who are not just out for the almighty dollar.

[diamond14]

8. bush* tax cuts are causing MAJOR college tuition increases...

and just wait until their shrub-leader starts the DRAFT....

these young people are coming right out of a "Clock-work Orange" movie....scary for all of us...

[ewagner]

16. did you forget?

These types will NEVER see military service: volunteer or draft!!!

[rasputin1952]

37. You might add...

these people will never give blood, volunteer their time at a VA hospital, or help to clean up the roadsides they pollute with torn American flags.

These are the most vile of people, ones that posess no conscience at all. Those that will never question authority because they receive accolades from the powerful, but little else. They are the republican base, mindless little drones that have never had to work a day in their lives, but insist that others slave for 60 hours a week without overtime.

I would give them a job, but shit-shoveling is taken by the GOP.

[Blue_Chill]

10. I wish one of those fuckers

from Georgetown would go to SE DC and say the same shit. As usual RWers talk a good game when they know they are safe and sound but STFU real quick when their candy asses are confronted.

[JHB]

12. Typical College ReTHUGlicans

You'd think the "arrogant spoiled brats with a bug up their ass" image would be a movie cliche, but once you get to a "core group", it's jaw-droppingly real. In college a few time I had the opportunity to spy on these guys while they were in a jam session (I delivered pizzas, they ordered them, and kept talking while I waited to collect). Un-effing-believable. And they consider themselves upstanding virtuous people, too. :puke:

At least my little bunch tipped well.

[qb]

13. When I was in college, the YR decided to hold a counter-protest

during an anti-nuke demonstration. They held a bake sale for the Pentagon. What a pathetic bunch of stiff white guy in ties.

[JHB]

15. My bunch were plotting to put up...

..."Welcome to Hymietown" signs at a planned (but later cancelled)Jesse Jackson speach on campus. (looong after Jackson had apologized for the comment).

[Stuckinthebush]

14. Silly children....

In a glass half-full take on this article, I'm so proud of the young DUers here who have a clue unlike these Young Republicans.

[JohnKleeb]

45. why thank you stuckin

[goobergunch]

60. Thank you! (n/t)

[JohnKleeb]

61. Hi Goob dont those kids make you wanna

:puke:
make wanna live in different times or move to another country. If this is what we are fighting I am either scared or ready to learn as I have now the duty to resist and fight back against ignorance and evil.

[maggrwaggr]

17. refreshing honesty!

I much prefer this to the republican bullshit of "compassionate conservative" and the like.

We need more people like this to come out and say the truth about how they feel.

The truth is the truth.

[ShaneGR]

18. Actually, I love these people

Yay! Push yourselves over to the right! Admit you're racist! Fill yourself with hatred!

Let the electorate sort it out.

[Michael Daniels]

19. Stupidest statement in an article full of them

"The number one reason there's racial inequality is because of hip-hop"

There comes a point where if you're a part of a group and someone makes as statement like this that you publically refute it (even if you do believe it) just to avoid your group being portrayed in an unfavorable light.

While I believe the moron actually means what he said that whole fragment of the article sounds like a bunch of drunk frat/sorority types trying to out-do each other to see who could make the most outrageous statement in an effort to get quoted.

I mean, no one can be that self-consciously stupid...can they?

[LoneStarLiberal]

20. More on YRs from TX.

I'm a researcher at a mid-sized public university in Texas, and the Republicans on our campus are about the same caliber as these jack offs except they are a little more pathetic. Our Young Republicans aren't from elite institutions like Johns Hopkins or Georgetown, but are just as bigoted. What makes them more pathetic is that they actually think that the rich kids will make room for them to get rich too if they tote the party line.

Foolish little children, that bunch. And I'm not age-discriminating, either; I'm not much older than most of our campus Young Republicans.

Also of note, I'd bet that none of these cigar smoking brats have had the honor of serving their country. So, not only are they bigots but they are cowards and chickenhawks to boot.

Too much Ann Coulter, not enough Anne Frank.

[CBHagman]

68. Too much Ann Coulter, not enough Anne Frank

What a great, pithy observation!

[Riptide]

21. When I was in college (1988) , Dukakis's daughter came to speak...

I went to see her. The college repukes showed up with their Bush signs and yelled at her, booed her, and screamed loudly through her whole speech.

It convinced me that the republicans were incredibly hateful.

[Sideways]

22. Same Shit Different Decade

Back in the late 80's Christopher Cox (a smarmy fucking asshole if there ever was one)was running for the House in Orange County CA. I was divorced and broke, okay I'll admit I was POOR, and some co-workers of mine suggested we go to one of his Young Republican fund raisers.

I was working at the time at Robinson's a tony department store in Newport Beach, my co-workers were looking for their future sugar daddy I was just hoping to get a free buffet.

I wasn't real political then, funny how being poor can do that to a person yet I digress.

The crowd without a doubt was the stupidest, most vapid, and greed drenched group of people I had ever encountered.

The women were just candy flossed tarts and the guys horny freaks.

Nobody was listening to Cox and his shallow diatribe when he finally spoke. Why is that you might ask? Because they were trying to impress each other with their own claims to fame. How RICH they were going to be, how IMPORTANT their family was, how SPECIAL they are.

And trying to shout each other down about how UNWORTHY the poor fucks who just couldn't get it together were.

It was sickening.

I was leaving, going to take the bus back home because my ride had picked up some gross fat freak she thought was going to make her his Stepford wife when this pencil dick geek stopped me at the door.

He tried to shove his hand up my skirt saying "just wanted to see how wet I got your panties gorgeous." I kicked him in the nuts and smashed my backpack on his head saying " not very asshole seeing as I'm not wearing any."

Same Shit Different Decade.

These fuckers are so base if they had an original thought it would die of lonliness.

Meet the new fuckwittage, same as the old fukwittage.

[dolo amber]

23. Key phrase *college Republicans*

just regurgitating what mommie and daddy think...let's see how they feel in a couple years when they see what ol' unkie dubya has done to their job market, methinks they might be singing a different tune...

[mitchum]

24. Kicking this...

but I would rather kick these vile idiots

[Redleg]

25. The appalling arrogance of these young people...

... reminds me of my younger days when I was a narrow-minded, bile-spewing republican. Makes me shudder to recall how arrogant- and ignorant- I really was in those days. The sad thing is I thought I was so bloody smart and perceptive back then. Ha ha.

[mlawson]

26. They are just stupid, that's all.

Mindless twaddle. Don't worry, they likely won't bother to vote...

[tom_paine]

27. Sick Brownshirt fucks

When they are told to behave like Soviets or Nazis, they will do so without hesitation.

Believe it.

Be ready.

They will do what they're told. And they will eventually be told.

History says not "if" but "when".

I believe history.

Plus a change, plus a la meme chose
(The more things change, the more they stay the same)

[whoYaCallinAlib]

28. These people are scary . . . hope they don't have kids.

We need to keep these whackos from procreating.

[Merlin]

29. The brownshirt anthem is back in fashion.

If you've never seen the flick "Cabaret" run--don't walk--to your nearest vid store and rent it. Not because of Liza's performance. But because of its portrayal of Nazi youth.

In particular, there is an unforgettable scene in an outdoor cafe, where a handsome, young boy rises and begins to sing. Other smiling youths rise and join in. Pretty soon the adults--obviously terrified--feel compelled to rise as well, even the old, bearded jew. It is the dawn of the Third Reich.

The sun on the meadow is summery warm.
The stag in the forest runs free.
But gather together to greet the storm.
Tomorrow belongs to me.

The branch of the linden is leafy and green,
The Rhine gives its gold to the sea.
But somewhere a glory awaits unseen.
Tomorrow belongs to me.

The babe in his cradle is closing his eyes
The blossom embraces the bee.
But soon, says a whisper;
"Arise, arise"
Tomorrow belongs...
Tomorrow belongs...
Tomorrow belongs to me.

[RetroLounge]

40. The movie "Swingkids"

Another good portrayal of the Brownshirts...

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

30. This is just anti-American hate

Do these Republicans hate everything about America? It sure sound like it.

[THUNDER HANDS]

31. NO NOT MY SCHOOL

WHY OH WHY DOES THAT IDIOT HAVE TO GO TO MY SCHOOL (HOFSTRA).

OH GOD.

I FEEL SO ASHAMED...

:mad:

[roguevalley]

34. too bad we can't deport that chen asshole

we have enough home-grown idiots without importing more.
god bless our immigrant past. but save us from the rejects
of other countries. <Will get over this shortly when the
idea of a soldier in Iraq calling his father, bursting
into tears and begging him to send water works its way
out of my system. In 2030.>

RV, SICK OF REPUGS and their SPAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[goobergunch]

63. I know the feeling...

there was a pro-life nut that used to go to my school (thankfully, he graduated).

They're headed up by the multitalented Jason Buck, an Eagle Scout, a member of Who's Who Among American High School Students and the All-Catholic Archdiocesan Choir, who also has his own band called Heaven or Bust!

Like their leader, these young people have the kind of courage and energy that makes swimming against the cultural tide seem effortless.

<snip>

When the rosary was finished, Buck took out his guitar and sang, “We Are One Body.” Everyone joined in and for a time, the culture of death disappeared while their hearts filled with the comfort of Our Savior's greatest promise.

Eternal life.

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:4BldGFZsdCEJ:www.archdiocese-phl.org/cs%26t/50202/news6.htm+Jason+Buck+Malvern&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[bleedingheart]

32. Ah...how disgusting

but I say let em speak..let em talk about their hate openly...
It will scare the shit out of all the moderates.

[Terwilliger]

33. yep...sounds like greedy self-centered capitalist fools to me

Im glad you twits want them to vote for Dems :nuke:

[drdigi420]

64. Probably holy rollers too

Holy rolling seems to go hand in hand with cheap labor conservatism.

[Clete]

35. One of the positive things to happen to me when I went to Catholic

school, is that the nuns made us spend one Saturday morning a month doing good works. We had to visit the vets in the VA (my favorite), poor families to give them care packages, old people in nursing homes to give them company and mentally retarded children in institutions to play with them.

Although my family was Republican, when I was old enough to vote I registered as a Democrat because by then I had realized how exclusive and elitist the GOP was because of these visits. Perhaps our schools need to require our children to spend a Saturday morning, maybe at a homeless shelter, at an unemployement office or a county hospital so that they know that these are not throwaway people who are lazy.

[Liberator_Rev]

73. Thank God for such "Liberal Like Christ" nuns

I was a happy Catholic for my first 33 years, until a became a priest and found that the higher up the hierarchy one got, the less "Liberal Like Christ" people were and the more Conservative and often the more corrupt. Catholic kids and lay people and nuns and young priests are often great people, but see how corrupt the Curia and the Papacy can get at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/PopesvsChrist .

[Rex]

36. The only bright side to this is Bush will probably

blow up the world long before these young-adult dittoheads get old enough to be in any real positions of power.

[jiacinto]

38. Easier than working?

Tell that to people on welfare. They don't have it easy. As someone who has seen poor people they aren't lazy people who don't work. There are people like that, but they are nowhere near the majority.

What I find disgusting is the contempt for the eight children. What have they done to deserve his contempt? I mean, seriously, why should the children pay? But then again he could really care less about them, and that is what pisses me off.

These children will go to crappier public schools and then be expected to be productive members of society when they can't get even get the basic tools to have a relatively decent education.

[Syn_Dem]

39. Hopefully my generation...

i.e JohnKleeb, leftistrebel etc. will turn out for the better. Especially with Bush II as a President during our life time.

[JohnKleeb]

46. Thanks syn

We will be better I hope.
LDF my fellow youngsters
Liberal Democrat Forever
I am proud to be liberal and these bigots just sicken me.

[goobergunch]

65. We'll try...

Agreed: LDF Forever!!

As for those "people", :puke: :puke: :puke:.

[JohnKleeb]

66. yep

LDF
If this is what we are gonna fight when we are older either I am leaving or le resistance.

[jiacinto]

41. Further thoughts on this issue

This gets me very mad. I wonder if they would be saying the same things if their parents:

died;
lost their jobs, faced unemployment for a long stretch of time;
because of job loss, could no longer pay the monthly mortgage bill on their homes;
lost their homes;
suffered from a medical condition that insurance wouldn't pay for, forcing them to go bankrupt;
lost all of their belongings due to a hurriance that home insurance wouldn't cover;
had a parent get disabled for life and could longer work;
or a multitude of other situations.

I would love to see how they would handle those situations as their parents would probably have to turn to the government for some sort of assistance. I would wonder what they would say then.

I won't go into specifics, but let me say that life can literally change in a matter of minutes. Things can get really shitty really quickly. I know that all too well.

[jiacinto]

42. And also

I really would love for these people to trade places with the "single black woman on welfare" for a day. I really would.

That woman faces ridicule everyday. People like those college students in the original post blame her for everything that's "wrong" with America. She can't go to the grocery store to go shopping without having her purchases scrutinized by both the cashier and other customers.

I would love for these kids to work in a retail store or fast food place for $6-7 an hour. I would love for them to deal with ungrateful and rude people all day in work that is very exhausting for little pay. I would love for them to have to do that.

I get angry when people attack the poor. Not all poor people are "lazy crack whores with eight babies".

[ChrisNYC]

51. In addition to their disgusting seperation from reality

I'm a little amazed they would so willingly go on the record as openly being racists and proud of it. Perhaps their campuses are a little more forgiving of such things than mine, but that would have resulted in protests where I went.

The sad thing to me is that they are just so blind to what would happen if their ideal country existed. Beyond just the cruelty of it, the society would completely fail to function. From a sheer economic standpoint, it always amazes me that conservatives won't spend any money on schools, but they will spend millions to imprison people when they could have just provided an education. I guess these idiots want to pay a 90% tax rate to oppress the lower classes when they finally revolt, which would actually happen in the fantasy world these idiots live in.

[Syn_Dem]

43. Agreed Jiacinto

I work at my aunt's grocery store and I really do admire the Mexican immigrants working there. They're there everday from open till close working their hearts for hopes of a better future. These College Republican Fucks should be grateful that they dont have to do the hard, labor-demanding jobs so many others have to do. Their smug attitude...."chewing on a unlit cigar" :mad:

[jiacinto]

44. I know it

I really would like for them to have to work in a low paying job and try to raise a family. I really would like them to try to do it.

I am only 25, but to get through grad school and college, I've had to work long hours at many low paying jobs. And I've had to do it with little to no support from my family.

[JohnKleeb]

47. It aint easy you are so right Carlos and Shayn

Shayn you have told me that your folks are self made and Carlos thats admirable too its hard but admirable work to put yourself through school. Thats one of the reasons why I admire Kucinich hes self made. These young republicans dont understand that some of us have to work hard to become what we are.

[jiacinto]

49. Here is what I don't like

I went to a small liberal arts college in PA. Anyway I used to get so angry when I would listen to people like the ones described in the original post talk about "how hard they've worked" when:

it was their parents paying their full tuition;
it was their parents paying for their car, the cost of their insurance, and maintanenance;
it was their parents paying their health insurance;
they were not working at all;
they did nothing but party all the time.

They really "haven't worked that hard". And for them to act like they've put in the proverbial "eight hour day at the salt mines" is insulting to those people who do have to work low wage jobs.

Let me state that I have nothing against those who are fortunate enough not to have to work during college or who come from families who can afford to pay full tuition. There are many people who are from well off families who aren't arrogant and self-righteous.

It's the ones who act like the world owes them something that piss me off. Someone once told me in college that they needed "people like him"--those paying full tuition--to go so that "people like me"--those on financial aid, those getting scholarships and loans--could "go there". That person intimated that I somehow owed him respect because of that.

[JohnKleeb]

53. Its quite insulting I know

Glad you are on our side too.

[JohnKleeb]

48. Sibeli and Chen? not to be offensive but those seem like Eastern names

Yeah that dude Chen is Tawianese.
last names that is as in Asian so do these morons know that repukes discriminate against them too and it seems they are proudly racist.
"Who's going to build a road in inner-city Baltimore?" asked Chen.

"It's not my problem," said Sibeni.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
These bastards are so aggrevating to me. They make me wanna be an immigrant to another country. Also you know what else is sick they could act like they care but they dont and that quote I see just proves it. If I ever become a republican I should shoot myself (not literally but deserve a slap to say the least)I really do think so because I used a government program to a get a job honestly and its a direct violation of what I believe in.

[jiacinto]

50. Do you know who Michelle Malkin is?

She is Fillipino and writes for National Review. She is very anti-immigrant.

I wonder how she sleeps at night, given that many of her contemporaries probably badmouth her behind her back all the time.

[JohnKleeb]

54. Yes

funny man I am third generation immigrant and I am more pro immigrant than a lot of these joksters I dont forget my ancestry too.

[Syn_Dem]

52. Gee, I wonder how she got into the country?

:shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

55. good question

Thats why I am a supporter of immigrants I remember the hard times John Kovalcik(my great grandfather) and Francis Beltz(another) faced. I dont know the names of the other first generation.
but I got a story I bought patches and a decal not for the US of A but for Slovenia and Ireland today and that was before I read this.

[absolutezero]

56. This has to be a joke

It's something I'd do....go to these stupid repug meetings and act like an outright fascist to give them a bad image...and refuse to admit i'm joking...hell we've got guys here that post in freeperville to make them look even stupider (if it's even possible)

If they really weren't joking they should spend a week in the ghetto....a week without food makes welfare look good...but wait, the republicans don't want any millionaires to loose money with frivilous taxes, to bad you starve.....

Republicans are evil...

[Torgo Johnson]

57. Tuiton is rising and financial aid is decreasing.

If this continues, the only people who can afford to go to a good school will be these pampered, rich, cigar-smoking, morally deficent, Patrick Bateman wannabe fucking assholes.

"I'm a Republican because liberals make me sick," said Sibeni, spitting out the words. "I don't like whiny people and tree-huggers."

I wonder if he has psychotic visions of throwing a chainsaw at a liberal. Probably thinks his daddy will get him off.

[jiacinto]

59. A lot of schools are doing that

and it angers me.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

58. What this kind needs...

Is re-education.
Preferably in a rice paddy or garment factory.

[Paragon]

62. It's the new counter-culture

They see the world evolving and progressing around them, and are "rebelling"...by being more conservative. Quite sad.

[FarLeftRage]

67. Methinks that these bastards

are nothing more than future domestic terrorists in training...
They could sure use a very big cup of STFU, though...

[xchrom]

69. another reason why i think there will be

a serious schism in this country. and i don't think it's that far off.

[nini]

70. If they knew 'what this country stands for'.. they'd know we are right

they're the ones that hate this country as it was founded and what it stands for.

fuckers.

[NashVegas]

71. Say 'Hello' to the American Taleban

To defeat the "pervasive degeneracy, ignorance and destruction of soul" that prevails today, he said, "you must live to judge and be ready to be judged ... extremism in defense of moral behavior is no vice."


I just posted that to a board where plenty of RWers hang out, and asked them to guess who said it.

[Mari333]

72. send the little F*ckers to Iraq

SIGN UP SIGN UP SIGN UP LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS