Dean & Clark statistically tied in South Carolina

[pruner]

Dean 21
Clark 20
Edwards 15
Sharpton 15
Gephardt 10
Undecided 7
Lieberman 5
Braun 4
Kerry 3
Kucinich 1

Dec 13-15. n=595. MOE ±4.1

http://www.surveyusa.com/2003_Elections/SC031216DemPrimary.pdf

[sujan]

1. I guess

the madonna endorsement didn't help Clark

[mikehiggins]

3. I guess a five year head start, and millions and millions of dollars

isn't helping Dean as much as one might suspect.

The problem with being the frontrunner is that you can't afford to stumble. When you are as far out in front as Dean is you almost have to succeed everywhere or you're toast.

The toaster is waiting.

[sujan]

4. ..

[Capn Sunshine]

10. I thought Clark was the guy who knew the strategy

for Southern Victory.

After total focus and "strategic withdrawal" from tow other races, the best he can do is SECOND?

I expected from his supporters comments here, that he would be up by 40 points like Dean is in New Hampshire.


Maybe if the put more energy into their campaign and less into detracting other campaigns, they could show us that southern strategy for victory we've been hearing about.

[SahaleArm]

17. Maybe Dean's 'New Southern Strategy' is working ;) n/t

[RetroLounge]

22. I guess it just takes some longer than others

to make up their mind (and register as a Dem)

[jmaier]

2. A good second for Clark in NH

and the two man foot race will finally be off and running. I hope! :-)

[joeybee12]

5. Is this up for Dean, and down for Clark???

I think I recall previous polls in SC showing Clark in the lead.

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pruner]

6. previous polls have shown either Clark or Edwards in the lead…

:)

[SahaleArm]

12. How about the previous Survey USA poll? n/t

[pruner]

13. this is the first Survey USA poll out of SC

:)

[SahaleArm]

16. It will be interesting to correlate it with the other polls

I'm surprised there are so few people undecided.

One Edit: The other polls showed 33%+ undecided.

[Jerseycoa]

18. Hey, Pruner

Did you miss this one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=101929


:P

[retyred]

20. Clark 34%, dean21% in OKlahoma?

WOW! not a bad showing for dean.


george bush…pResident?

retyred in fla
“good night paul, wherever you are”
So I read this book

[pruner]

21. no… I saw that thread

but it's got nothing to do with this thread.

:P

[Jerseycoa]

23. I just wanted

to make sure you didn't have the flu or something and your head wasn't mush. B-)

[jmaier]

7. Actually

the poll numbers are an uptick for both of them from prior polls. Clark has been in the teens and Dean at around 10 so they both gain although it's a big jump for Dean.

[Closer]

8. Lookin good

And think, Dean's JUST now started to hit SC hard with staff, money, advertising, etc.

He's off to a great start.


If he wins SC, it's OVER for the rest. Period. End of story.

[webkev]

14. so what

[Jerseycoa]

9. Previous polls

Pew Polls
From http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=198, thanks to Hilary and S870
November 18-December 4, 2003, N=566, MOE +- 5

Edwards 16
Clark 11
Gephardt 10
Lieberman 9
Sharpton 8
Dean 7
Kerry 3
Moseley Braun 2
Kucinich 0
Other 1
Don't Know 33

Zogby Poll
From http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=764, thanks to Hilary
December 2-4, 2003, N=500, MOE +/- 4.5

Dean 11
Clark 9
Lieberman 9
Edwards 7
Gephardt 7
Sharpton 7
Kerry 4
Moseley Braun 3
Kucinich 0.3
Someone Else 5
Not Sure 37

[DoveTurnedHawk]

11. This Is Good News for Both of Them

I think Clark needs a win in SC more than Dean. I actually WANT polls to start showing Dean as #1 or #2 in SC, however, so that expectations are properly managed and a Clark win at the end is not spun as Dean doing unexpectedly well as #2.

DTH

[SadEagle]

19. agreed.

Also, with Oklahoma poll, it's finally starting to look like the Dean-Clark race many people were expecting.

[mmonk]

15. Actually

I'll take that poll right now. Edwards slipping and Lieberman at 5%.

[SahaleArm]

24. Kick - something more postive

:kick: