A tale from 2002/Who here knew?

[Ani Yun Wiya]

August 9, 2002 somewhere in Miami-Dade a car went into a canal.
August 10, 2002 the PD halued it out.

In the trunk they found a metal strongbox.
In this box they found 2500 more year 2000 ballots.

Anyone know if these ballots were also in the category of "uncounted".

[IDUDOYOU]

1. No way, is this really true?

Shocking if it is true!

[1monster]

3. I remember hearing about it when it happened, but the official attitude

seemed to be, "So what? The election is over and has been decided. Get over it and let's move on."

[preciousdove]

2. Link to old DU post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forum_archive_html/DCForumID60/10159.html

[preciousdove]

5. From BuzzFlash but a search found no reply...

http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/2002/10/10_mail.html

Dear Buzz --

Here's one for some of the BuzzFlash readers in Florida:

I checked out the Danny Schecter/Salon/PBS story you ran on Tuesday (or was it Wednesday?). Schecter refers, at the tail end of the story, to a report on a website from "Flori-DUH" that in August 2002, divers retrieved a locked metal box containing 2500 uncounted ballots, 1600 of which were for Gore. Schecter provides no link to this website or story. ----

"A car was being dredged up after sinking in a canal in Miami Dade County on August 9th, 2002. Divers who found the car also found a locked metal box that when opened contained uncounted ballots from the November 2000 election. The large majority of the presidential votes in the lost container were for Al Gore. Of the approximate 2500 soaked ballots over 1600 were for Al Gore. The election of 2000 just won’t go away…. Local police spokesperson Jeanne Pierre Dorvil stated that the matter would be investigated."

By doing a google.com search, I found just one other article that included the same information, and that was in "The Boston Statement" at www.TakeBackThePresidency.com. Section A-12 -----

On August 9, 2002, more than a year and a half after the election, divers in search of a sunken car discovered a locked metal box that, when opened, contained uncounted ballots from the election. Of the 2500 soaked ballots, over 1600 were for Gore. Counting this ballot box alone would have erased Bush's official "victory". How many other ballot boxes from heavily Democratic precincts were taken from the polling places and dumped into the water?

The only other site cited by google was Schecter's weblog, but after perusing numerous dreary pages of that, I found no reference to the Miami-Dade sunken ballots. A subsequent google search on the police spokesperson's name turned up nothing as well.

So I wrote to the TakeBack website Wednesday night and got this reply:

"I got the info on the car from a web post from someone who heard it on a Miami-Dade radio station. I have written to him and asked him to give me the name of the station so I can track it down. He said he would - I haven't heard back yet - he needs some tweaking."

Now, because I'm a hopeful but very suspicious person, I think this whole thing is probably bogus, even though I really really really want it to be genuine.

So, would it be possible for BuzzFlash to ask Miami-Dade Floridians if anyone knows anything more about this story, or if they have a contact through which to question this police spokesperson some more? I don't even have an idea of which police department it was. . . . . . . .but if the police were involved, there should be a formal report, correct?

Peace,

Linda Hilton
Arizona

[preciousdove]

6. Rev Marc Dorvil vs Miami Police

Sat May 26 2001 16:51:49

Miami, Florida
Police cleared in death of preacher in custody -- (Sun Sentinel) To the dismay of many Haitian-Americans, the Miami-Dade County State Attorney's Office said on Friday it has closed its investigation into the death of Marc Dorvil, the part-time Baptist preacher who died May 14 after a violent confrontation with eight police officers in North Bay Village.

[preciousdove]

8. Edner Dorvil in Bush Publicity Stunt?

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/10/31/State/Democrat_confronts_Bu.shtml

[preciousdove]

10. DORVIL, Roland, Lieutenant; Haiti; (individual)

The following changes have occurred with respect to the Office of
Foreign Assets Control Listing of Specially Designated Nationals
and Blocked Entities since December 7, 1993:

http://www.treas.gov/offices/eotffc/ofac/sdn/sdnew94.txt

COMMUNITY HEALTH AND DRINKING WATER POSTS (a.k.a. MINISTRY OF
HEALTH UNIT FOR POTABLE WATER; a.k.a. POCHEP; a.k.a. POSTES
COMMUNAUTAIRES D'HYGIENE ET D'EAU POTABLE; a.k.a. PROGRAMME DE
SANTE DE L'EAU POTABLE), Petite Place Cazeau, P.O. Box 2580,
Port-au-Prince, Haiti
CONATEL (a.k.a. CONSEIL NATIONAL DES TELECOMMUNICATIONS; a.k.a.
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AGENCY), 16, Ave. Mie Jeanne, Cite de
l'Exposition, P.O. Box 2002, Port-au-Prince, Haiti
CONSEIL NATIONAL DES TELECOMMUNICATIONS (a.k.a. CONATEL; a.k.a.
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AGENCY), 16, Ave. Mie Jeanne, Cite de
l'Exposition, P.O. Box 2002, Port-au-Prince, Haiti

DORVIL, Roland, Lieutenant; Haiti; DOB 20 Oct 53 (individual)

[preciousdove]

11. Just sent email requst for report to MD Fire and Rescue

:shrug:

[coralrf]

4. There was a thread on it...

and it went no no no where...as it should have. It was bogus and intended to get Dems in a rant that could be shot down as a hoax. Rove at his not so best.

[Eloriel]

7. Good God.

Ani, you are certainly fast becoming a treasure trove of information.

Hats off to you!

Eloriel

[Ani Yun Wiya]

9. Just curious....

After seeing this on a list somplace last year I tracked down and called the person who had originally posted it.
He told me that he had heard about it early one morning on the radio where he lived in Florida.

I was never able to find the "police spokesperson" though.

Thanks.