Would you forgive Hillary for another four years of Bush?

[Trek234]

A lot of people are saying Bill excused Bush (to put it nicely) the other day on behalf of, or to directly benefit, Hillary. Mainly her prospects of running for President in the future. i.e. 2008

This doesn't really make a good deal of logic to me... Personally I don't think Bill and Hillary would be traitorous enough to both the party and the nation to do such a thing. But let's just say that they would. That Bill and/or Hillary and those supporting such a plan are trying to covertly get Bush in for another four years solely to get Hillary in to office afterwards.

So, we arrive at the second reason this doesn't work out logically for me. Would you forgive Hillary for such a thing?

Seriously - would you forgive Hillary (and Bill) for having us suffer another FOUR DAMN YEARS with Bush so she could get in to office? Would you vote for her after that??? (assuming elections are still legal that is)

I really hope those saying this is what is going on are wrong. Should it turn out to be true, however..... well, it would just be pathetic if Hillary would allow such a thing for personal gain.

[DemBones DemBones]

1. NO! eom.

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[JI7]

3. and i believe that was his point

if the strategy was to elect hillary, this would not be the way they would do.

[JI7]

2. hillary WANTS an investigation into niger uranium

hillary clinton wants an investigation into the niger uranium claim made in the state of the union address. i wonder what those who claim bill clinton said it was a mistake because he wants hillary to run in 08 would say about this. and i agree with you. it's very hard to believe. first off, bill clinton has also said good things about the candidates who are running right now. he is one of the few who keeps saying bush was not elected by the people. you should hear him talk about the economic policies of the administration. and even on the niger/uranium thing he still said we should deal with problems in iraq now. how does dealing with what is going on in iraq now help bush? do you think bush is doing a good job there ?

[Jivenwail]

4. No

I don't think Hillary is presidential material, period. She's been a huge disappoint to me, personally. She's enabled Bush at every turn, saying little to dispute his dismantling of our rights and her vote to allow this SOB the right to invade a sovereign nation was purely and totally POLITICAL. No other reason. Disgusting, as far as I am concerned.

I have not read all of Bill's statements in support of Bush on Iraq, only what has been discussed here of late. Regardless, the Bushies are still blaming him for 9/11, as a result of the report that came out yesterday...that most, if not all, the intel failures occured on Clinton's watch. If Bill is excusing the lies that the current misadministration has been telling and passing the blame on, then I am extremely disappointed in him.

I would never support Hillary's selling out this country for 4 more years of Bush just so she could run in '08. I would never support her. No way, no how.

[Kahuna]

5. I would forgive no one for making us suffer..

more bush.

[CWebster]

6. If it was undeniable, even then,

don't you think many would go to great lengths and labor over long rambling, drawn out discourses full of pathetic excuses and desperate rationale to deny it?

[Prodemsouth]

7. No

And my hope would be that the voters of NY toss her out of the Senate, if she is a party to such a scheme-. If indeed this is plot for a free shot in 08. According to the Clinton's: The Bush'clan-called then Governor Clinton and told him they would give him a free ride if he waited until 1996 to run. If he ran in 1992 they would go after him in the media, and be hounded. You think that he went back to them and said lets make a deal this time

[birdman]

8. Excuse me !

Which Bill Clinton did you watch for 8 years ?

This is a guy who threw millions of poor Americans overboard
in 1996 under the guise of "welfare reform" because he didn't
want to deal with the issue in the 1996 election.

He abandoned his pledge to gay Americans in the military when
he met with some resistance.

He endangered his administration and political agenda to get hummers
from a star-struck Valley girl. Then when the story broke he rewarded the loyalty of those who stood by him by sending them out onto
the talk show circuit to deny charges that he knew to be true.

Clinton was light-years better than the despicable little shithead
in the WH today but don't tell me that he would be driven by loyalty
to the party or country. The Clintons are all about themselves and
their priority now is getting Hillary in the WH.

Evaluate any political decision they make in that light and
you won't be wrong.

:eyes::eyes::eyes:

[booksenkatz]

9. Love em or hate em...

I just don't see the Clintons as having the amount of power/influence that you suggest. Bush is going to get another 4 years (or not) based on how much the Dem nominee, and the majority of the Dem party itself, is willing to FIGHT to get him out of there. One or two people within the party "actively working for Bush" ~ if that is the case ~ won't make a difference, I don't care who they are. The Dem party has never been united in agreement on anything as far back as I can remember anyway. I can't think of a single Dem that speaks for the whole party and can influence great swaths of voters in such numbers. Not even Bill or Hillary.

Wait, there's one more thing that's going to influence whether or not Bush gets another 4 years: electronic voting machines. But that's another thread.

[Jeebo]

10. The question is moot ...

If Bush gets another four years, this country is done for. Finished. Kaput. The Bush cabal is rapidly destroying the United States of America, and another four years is all they will need to finish the job. In 2008, after eight years of the Bush cabal, this country will be no more. What will be in its place will be unrecognizable as the country you and I know. It will be something sinister, feudal, theocratic, bankrupt, and Big Brother-ish. If there are any more elections by then at all, they will be shams, facades, mirages, controlled by rigged voting machines and other means ... I could go on and on and on, but I've been up all night and need to get some sleep. But all of this makes your question moot. Hillary won't be ABLE to run in 2008 after eight years of the Bush cabal -- not in a fair election, anyway. And even though your question is moot, I'll go ahead and answer it anyway: If Hillary by neglect or design is responsible for Bush getting another four years, NO, I could NEVER forgive her for that.

Ron

[quilp]

11. Do we know what else Clinton said?

Our media is very quick to air anything that helps Bush no matter what the source. It is equally reluctant to air anything negative about Bush no matter what the source. In the 911 report about Saudi "blank pages", has any of the media mentioned the Saudi-Bush connection?