Get on over to Talking Points Memo! lol great news!

[tibbiit]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

(July 23rd, 2003 -- 8:06 PM EDT // link)

According to a story just hitting the wires by UPI's Shaun Waterman, the report from the joint congressional 9/11 inquiry, which will be released tomorrow, concludes....

and!!!

July 23rd, 2003 -- 7:25 PM EDT // link)

Interesting insider info on the CIA-NSC war from today's Nelson Report ...

CIA TORPEDOES THE NSC

-- and the war has just begun, intelligence community sources warn.


Excelllent, just excellent! Makes my day.
tib

[DagmarK]

1. Oh this IS a fine day for news on talkingpoints........

thanks for the heads up.

Guess what? it's also Monica Lewinsky's birthday! (according to morford!)

I loved this:

As one Administration source put it, privately, today: "Between Tenet and Hadley, Condi now has the choice of saying she's a fool, or a liar…if not both. Bottom line is she failed to protect the President…look at all this lame stuff about him not being a 'fact checker'. It's just incredible."

**** I vote for condi admitting she is both a fool AND a liar......

[DagmarK]

2. Oh but wait...........this is really SCARY: Wolfowitz head of the CIA?????

"reported talk of trying to replace Tenet with Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz"

That is a FREAKY scenario...............a mind-blower.......and ticket to Canada right away!!!!!!!

[tibbiit]

4. Wouldnt the cia pragmatists hate his guts?

(wolfowitz)
This is a non starter now imo! But indeed if it came to pass... a horror, and many more innocent people will die.

[DagmarK]

13. "this will never come to pass" is not in my vernacular ANY MORE!

Sorry.......anything can get through the senate and house these days.........

But the "pragmatists" might take care of the problem quietly (and at night). No doubt.

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. Don't worry, he would never get past

a Senate confirmation hearing at this point.

His current position did not require congressional approval as far as I know.

[diplomats]

6. This makes my day, too!

I suspected the Niger story was the tip of the iceberg, to use a hackneyed phrase, and this is proof. And now we have the 9/11 report. It is time to "move on" - to more scandals! BTW, what gets me is that quote that says Bush needs to step in to stop the CIA-WH war. I imagine Chimpy still living in his messianic fantasy world and refuses to believe what's going on around him.

[Stephanie]

11. Krugman predicted this

Last week, he said they would try to replace Tenet with someone who would stonewall any investigation into bush lies WRT Iraq. But appointing Wolfowitz is even more egregious than that Kissinger-9/11 appointment.

[blm]

15. That would open up a whole can of worms

during the confirmation hearings, wouldn't it?

[aquart]

23. It's only the simple truth.

Probably why she can't say it.

[Blue-Jay]

27. Off topic warning

Speaking of Monica: A few years ago on her birthday, I sent her a dry cleaning coupon, just for laughs. She didn't write me back, and I'm still crushed.

[Cush]

3. best part

<<<<"The Iraq/Niger debacle is but one of "a whole series of stories which are ready to break", a source told us today, adding, "I've never seen such hostility and disdain as now being expressed between the White House and the CIA. Never…" >>>>

[diplomats]

7. Yes

that heartened me, too.

[Fleshdancer]

8. Another black Thursday for the WH?

As our "leader" likes to say...BRING IT ON.

[DEMActivist]

9. Does anyone see the irony....

In Poppy Bush's CIA taking down the Puppet Son?

Or, perhaps, as I've said before....there's no irony in it.
Perhaps Poppy doesn't appreciate that the Puppet Handlers (Rumsfeld & Cheney) slipped the leash after 9/11.

[robbedvoter]

14. As the commercial goes: "This is not your father's CIA"

yeah, I did notice the irony. I was watching "All The Presidents Men" tonight thinking: this cannot be all! There has to be more!"

[Pepperbelly]

10. very interesting ...

Lanny Davis is right. We should move far past those 16 words.

[diplomats]

12. Yes, because there's a lot more

where that came from.

[Stephanie]

16. Anyone know what this Nelson Report is?

This is scary:

-- today, while no one wanted to speculate about Rummy and Cheney, in the absence of new disclosures, disparate Administration sources confirm that it is "generally accepted" that Tenet will be fired from the CIA, if only because of what he started last week.

What was that called under Nixon, when he fired the special prosecutor?

[Pathwalker]

17. The Saturday Night Massacre.

Please be on the alert for an unidentifed spherical onbject rolling DOWNHILL...drip, drip,... DON'T DRINK THE POOL WATER! gulp.

[Stephanie]

20. Thanks! And wasn't The Saturday Night Massacre

the beginning of the end for Nixon? I think that event finally tipped the scales against him, as far as everyone realizing just what a dirty game he was playing. Right?

[diplomats]

18. Marshall quotes it frequently

I think it's some sort of insider national security/CIA report.

[Stephanie]

19. thanks

Interesting, he's focused on Asia:

http://www.hillnews.com/news/031203/nkorea.aspx

Chris Nelson, author of an influential daily newsletter focusing on Asia, the Nelson Report, said, “Congress was slow to recognize that the Bush policy of aggressive non-engagement risked producing the crisis that we now face.”

[berry]

24. Here's a link to the Nelson Report--it's a blog

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/chris/

It's mentioned here and there, always as highly reliable and with lots of insider info. Worth keeping an eye on, but Josh Marshall usually also alerts us if Nelson comes up with something special.

Oh--also should say that though his insider-ness probably is in relation to Asia policy, his blog is general. So today something about Uday and Qusay. Also heads-ups about articles in the press and other blogs.

(My only gripe with it is that even when I enlarge the type to the max, it's hard on the eyes.)

[anamandujano]

21. great read

thanks for the cheer

[hang a left]

22. Just one point about billy

You don't think B Clinton knew this was coming out in this report? Don't worry about the WMD move on, oh but wait no al queda-iraq connection well then this is a little more serious than I thought!

[tibbiit]

25. I think thats a big part

And it sticks in the craw of the pundits to say his name in (fake) admiration, which has got to be fun for him to watch... and they (rw demon pundits) will have to go easier on him when the report comes out maybe... surely his administration will be mentioned?

I think all three are likely the case:)
tib

[robbedvoter]

26. Bingo! After reading this stuff I re-evaluated my take on Clinton's

remarks last night. He must know - so moving on from SOTU would just mean focussing on ...other juicy stuff...