Al Haig: "Carter Overthrew The Shah of Iran"

[CO Liberal]

He just made that claim on Sean Hannity's radio pukefest. Said that was why he resigned as the head of NATO.

I don't recall that - I thought it was the fundamentalist Muslims who overthrew the Shah. Anyone care to weigh in on this??

[htuttle]

1. They hauled Al Haig out to criticize Carter?!?

They ARE getting desperate.

All I can say to his assertion is: Bollocks!

But then, what do I know...I was never 'in complete control' of the government, like he was.

[alphafemale]

2. Another lie - By my memory... He was in the US for cancer treatment

at one point. And the extremists demanded he be returned for trial.


Knowing that would have been a quick death sentence for him we refused.

Then the embassy was seized.

[pw]

6. What has Al been smoking?

What a coplete lunatic.

[CO Liberal]

3. Hey, Wait a Minute.....

Didn't the "students" occupy our Embassy in Tehran because the Shah was allowed to come here for medical treatment? And if we helped the Ayatollah Khomeini rise to power, why did they keep our people held hostage for 444 days?

I think that just like his old boss Ronnie Raygun, Al Haig's brain cells are beginning to vaporize......

[meegbear]

4. Dunno ...

But I found this online:

Al Haig was Commander in Chief of NATO for more than 5 years. He had an illustrious war record. He served as Chief of Staff to President Nixon and to President Ford (I knew him well in both positions), was Secretary of State under President Reagan and was the man who said that "I am in charge here" (he wasn't) on the occasion of the attempted assignation and wounding of President Ronald Reagan.

I had dealings with him when he was in the White House both during the Nixon years and for a short period of time for Gerald Ford. After he left the government in both the military and the civilian side he went on the Board of Directors of Allegheny Ludlum which became Allegheny International. I knew him there as well since I had been a consultant to Allegheny International for more than decade and so I knew him in government service and in civilian life.

He never gave me the impression of being a strong man. The moment there was trouble he was up and out or at least that was true of my experience with him. I never knew him to take a position on anything. He always struck me as the type that gets along because they go along. When Allegheny got into big trouble he immediately resigned from the Board of Directors. When there was a controversy in the White House over something I did and said I would do his advice was to leave it alone and do nothing. He refused as Chief of Staff to take a stand on most important issues.

He resigned suddenly as Secretary of State in 1982 under the Presidency of Ronald Reagan and to this day if you look up the resignation in the Journals one and all say there is no explanation for is sudden resignation. I think I know the reason he resigned.

President Ronald Reagan, the old fox, had come to the conclusion that we could destroy the Soviet Union by outspending them on defense and we could push them to the economic wall and cause an internal peaceful revolution. He was determined to follow that policy and did. If I know Al Haig that would have caused him to resign since such a policy had to be insane, dangerous as well! But Ronald Reagan did just that and there is more than enough literature to prove it!

Haig is and was living proof that you can go far if you don't stand up too much.


http://www.rinfret.com/ah.html

[RedSox02]

14. Let me get this straight

He resigned suddenly as Secretary of State in 1982 under the Presidency of Ronald Reagan according to that link, yet says he resigned when Carter overthrew the Shah (which Carter didn't). So he is basically lying twice.

[gratuitous]

5. Whaaaaa???

Are these assclowns for real? Or is this one of the "revisionist historians" I've heard so much about lately?

I'll just bet Hannity didn't see fit to correct General Delusional, considering he has no personal memory of that time.

The desperation is getting almost palpable now. Make sure you've got your loins properly girded everyone, it's just about battle time and we know these bastards don't fight fair at all. Fortunately, the truth is a pretty effective weapon and defense, all at the same time.

[damnraddem]

7. Khomeini and his fundies overthrew the Shah.

The U.S. government backed the Shah to the end. Carter got tarred by the seizure of the American hostages and by the failure of the rescue attempt.

Reagan's government then played footsie with the Iranians to get support for overthrowing the Sandinistas in Nicaragua -- remember Iran-Contra? Some claimed that Reagan's people had negotiated with the Iranians before Reagan was elected, getting them to not release the hostages while Carter was president, so ensuring Reagan's win. Who knows?

[Ripley]

8. Geez, last week it was Truman.

that they were tarring and feathering, this week Carter. I betcha next week it will be LBJ.

They sure sound ridiculous attacking former Presidents with made-up crap and dead Presidents for personal writings in a diary.

Hopefully all of this attacking will turn-off even MORE people who voted for the Smirk.

[DrBB]

9. Well, let's see. First WE installed Pahlevi

...back in the 50s--our first adventure in "regime change"--when we didn't like the socialist government that had been elected there. Earning us a generation's worth of hatred and resentment among the Iranian population. Which finally exploded in 1979, in a popular uprising. The Shah sought protective exile here, which Carter allowed. How that could add up to Carter "overthrowing" the corrupt bastard, I don't know, but if he had I'd honor him for it. I suspect what Haig means, if anything, is that Carter didn't go to war in Iran to PROTECT the doddering corrupt and oppressive son of a bitch, so therefore "overthrew" him. Right wing pretzel logic, as usual.

[madrchsod]

10. the fuck`n right wing of

this country is trying to rewrite history..the fuck`n idiots ..al -i`m in charge- haig..hey why don`t you and that slut anthrax can go fuck each other in some slimy alley...gee ,do i sound pissed???you bet i am. they know they`re screwed with bush in charge so they have to discredit carter. carter is doing more good for the world than any of these slugs ever will..carter set in place all the advanced weapon system that were funded and developed in the 80`s that ronny and his puppeters took credit for...oh ya-sean- you can have sloopy seconds on your lover annie....

[Ekaterina]

11. Al Haig

is completely deranged......but that aside, what was their purpose for dragging this corpse of a topic out of the ground?? Not enough "timely" news??
Jeesh.

[cmd]

12. This is the first time I heard that

And I was alive and alert during the entire Carter administration.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

13. Al "I'm In Charge!' Haig?

ROTFLMAO!

[ellie]

15. Further proof that you

neither have to be smart nor in command of the facts to be a repuke. These people make this stuff up on the fly. It's quite breathtaking to behold.

[drscm]

16. Will you guys quit picking on Al and confusing me with revisionist facts?

eom

[Cujo]

17. Who cares who overthrew the Shah?

He was a murdering bastard...no better than Hussein only the US loved him. They over threw the previous goverment to put that bastard in power and that led to the fundamentalists rise

[haymaker]

18. The US loved Hussein at one time too,

don't forget. As long as we get their oil, thenwe don't care who they kill. Or fuck. Or eat.

[bluestateguy]

19. Al Haig

Didn't Homer Simpson support him for president in 1988?

This clown is so 1981. Maybe somebody should ask him what he thinks about those brank new ATM machines or those keen video cassette recorders. Geesh! Who is this guy? Where do they get this guy?

[JohnKleeb]

21. I dont know

The simpsons really wasnt on the air in 88 but they did have these shorts back then.

[tom_paine]

20. Ha ha ha -- they tell so many lies they know some will slip through

I'd say it was funny, except that I have to live here.

"Hee hee hee. It's funny because I don't know him!"
--Homer Simpson, watching TV

[trof]

22. The shah came to the U.S.

for cancer treatment.
With Carter's blessing, but what else would he do. The shah was our (installed) ally.
While he was out of the country, Kohemani (or how the hell ever you spell it) came back to Iran from his exile in Paris and the revolution was on. The shah had brutal secret police and was not loved.
The shah died in the U.S. (I think) and never returned to Iran.
That's how I remember it, anyway.

on edit-Carter overthrew the shah? Total bullshit. I think Haig is getting a little past it. He's the same guy who announced he was "in charge" when Reagan was shot. In fact he wasn't. V.P. Bush was.

[JohnKleeb]

23. Puke thats a bunch of bullshit Mr. Haig and btw (also a story)

I thought us commie anti religion Liberals would hate a fundy like the Aytollah. Also Sean real credible source like using a well known criminal to testify against a well liked and well respected clergyman.
The story
My dad grew up in Arlington, Virginia in the 50's and 60's. He went to Catholic school for a while then when he was about 13 he went to Public School. I looked at his old year book and saw Al Haig Jr dead serious I am if I can find the year book I might try something. My dad's dad and Haig did not know each other my big dad as he is called before and after his death was in the NLRB and Haig I dont know what he did before Reagan. These two guys Haig and Howard Kleeb, my grandfather were totally different guys obviously Howard Kleeb was a lifelong democrat and opponent of Reagan. He was far older than Haig too also now Big Dad died in 1979 so I guess God didnt want him to see Reaganomics if you think weird maybe but I think if he were still alive he could go on Hannity and blow him and Haig out of the water. Sorry for the rant but just saying.

[patdem]

24. The 'October Surprise' does anyone remember?

http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0591/9105011.htm

[Brian Sweat]

25. Was haig even "head" of NATO

during the Carter administration? What exactly does he mean by head of NATO. I am pretty sure he resigned his commision well before Carter became president. Wasn't he Nixon's chief of staff or something. If he was no longer in the military, he could not have been SACEUR. Is there some type of civilian head of NATO?

[JohnKleeb]

26. He was in the military I had no idea.

He did something for Nixon yes. I dont think there is a civilian posistion for the head of NATO whatever Haig is a sleaze like most of em.

[Patriot_Spear]

27. Only an ignorant dumbass would make a statement like that...

The Shah put down FOUR uprising previous to the last one which installed Khomeni- why didn't he stop the last one too?

BECAUSE HE WAS DYING OF CANCER. He didn't care anymore. The above question puzzled CIA analysts at the time too; until his condition became public knowledge- by then it was too late to do anything about it.