Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Bush's Bad Intelligence - Stovepipe by Seymour Hersh

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:51 AM
Original message
Bush's Bad Intelligence - Stovepipe by Seymour Hersh
I've seen this referred to but not link over the last few days. I read it last night in the New Yorker. It's a must read.

<snip>
The point is not that the President and his senior aides were consciously lying. What was taking place was much more systematic—and potentially just as troublesome. Kenneth Pollack, a former National Security Council expert on Iraq, whose book “The Threatening Storm” generally supported the use of force to remove Saddam Hussein, told me that what the Bush people did was “dismantle the existing filtering process that for fifty years had been preventing the policymakers from getting bad information. They created stovepipes to get the information they wanted directly to the top leadership. Their position is that the professional bureaucracy is deliberately and maliciously keeping information from them.

“They always had information to back up their public claims, but it was often very bad information,” Pollack continued. “They were forcing the intelligence community to defend its good information and good analysis so aggressively that the intelligence analysts didn’t have the time or the energy to go after the bad information.”
</snip>

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:59 AM
Response to Original message
1. And a nice related piece by Robert Parry
CIA analysts have pieced together the real story but can’t get it to the president. “The president is basing his decisions on some really bad information,” analyst Jack Ryan (Ben Affleck) pleads to a U.S. general. “My orders are to get the right information to the people who make the decisions.”

Though a bit corny, Ryan’s dialogue captures the credo of professional intelligence analysts. Solid information, they believe, must be the foundation for sound decisions, especially when lives and the national security are at stake. The battle over that principle is the real back story to the recent dispute over Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction. It is a story of how the CIA’s vaunted analytical division has been corrupted – or “politicized” – by conservative ideologues over the past quarter century.

Some key officials in George W. Bush’s administration – from Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz to Vice President Dick Cheney – have long been part of this trend toward seeing intelligence as an ideological weapon, rather than a way to inform a full debate. Other figures in Bush’s circle of advisers, including his father, the former president and CIA director, have played perhaps even more central roles in this transformation.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2003/102203.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:12 AM
Response to Original message
2. My FAVORITE magazine
Go to USS - University Subscription Services to get a good discount - this is one weekly mag that all DU would enjoy having come to their homes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
3. kick
hopefully this won't sink out of sight this fast, like most important articles do (it seems only the sensational threads stay afloat)

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ModerateMiddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. kick
We just read this article, and though it is very long, it really is important.

Read it.

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 11:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC