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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:19 PM
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How many think Lieberman will bolt to the Repubs?
I wouldnt think so beforehand, but lately he's been saying a lot of "Democrats deserve to lose if they nominate Dean.."

Makes me wonder....
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:21 PM
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1. his actual voting record would make him an unwelcome
republican...

I don't like how he sucked up to Bush immediately after the 2000 election fiasco...I also didn't like his performance in the debate against Cheney...

But compare him to a prick like Santorum and he looks like a bleedingheart liberal..(like me!)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:24 PM
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2. Again?
He made a conscious decision to be a Dem-Repub when he first ran for office in Connecticut. It has been a very effective strategy for him. He gets both Dems and Repubs to vote for him because he is a centrist. It works well for him in his state but it doesn't sell to America at large, in my opinion.
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:25 PM
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4. True...
I think he is resigned to the fact that his consituency will always be Conn, and not the US as a whole.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:49 PM
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12. To be fair (not that I like him even a little), his primary responsibility
IS to the state of CN. That is what Senators (and congresscritters) are
constitutionally charged to do. Their allegiance is to constituents of their respective states (in theory, if not in practice) which perhaps unfortunately results in 'pork barrel' politics. The two senators in my state (Oklahoma) have thus far in their careers have rarely represented MY views and desires, but apparently they're doing their "job" since they keep getting re-elected. And what they do is not in the best interests of the USA (in my humble opinion) or of myself (in my well-informed opinion), but their activities obviously please enough Okies to get them returned to office.

Sure, it's "trickle-down" democracy, and it sure as hell ain't perfect but it's what we's got, as it were. :-(

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:24 PM
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3. Don't think so, he'd get recalled
Which might not be a bad thing.
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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:40 PM
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10. Yea
Just like Jeffords got recalled.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:58 PM
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26. You cannot recall a United States Senator
There is no provision in the Constitution for this process and state law cannot trump federal law for federal offices.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:29 PM
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5. He wont
it points more to the DLC breaking away from the DNC...

At least we may be seeing the splintering of both the RNC and the
DNC
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:32 PM
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6. ...Lieberman's a Democrat?
Wow.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:36 PM
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8. snort...
:evilgrin:
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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:36 PM
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7. I think he might IF
The democrats get too liberal for him. (i.e. Kucinich gets the nomination)

I'm sure there are some other possibilities too....
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:38 PM
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9. Another bullshit thread
I won't even bother going through the motions again. There is no way that Lieberman would switch. I've spent years here defending the man against the same lies and arguments that people make about him daily. I'm tired of wasting time from my keyboard.

And I say this as a Dean supporter.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:49 PM
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11. Thanks Carlos...
For sparing us the agony... :)
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HPLeft Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:50 PM
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13. He makes sense to me
I hope he keeps saying it.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:50 PM
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14. Why bolt to the Republican Party?
He has his cake and eats it too. He gets to be a DINO AND use the party to capture democratic voters. All the benefits of both parties! Why waste all those democratic votes when you dont have to?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:53 PM
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16. That's it in a nutshell...
He stands for nothing except political expediency.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:50 PM
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15. mind posting a link?
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 08:51 PM by Bombtrack
because I really think you made up him saying that
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 09:00 PM
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17. Wasn't making it up
However two speeches did get mixed up in my mind. The first, cited in the Newsmax article, has Lieberman railing at Dean. The second doesn't mention Dean by name, but he says "(Democrats) don't deserve to run the country" if they move left and embrace "the failed solutions of the past."


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/10/150822.shtml

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/10/dems.candidates/

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zubeneshamali Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 09:59 PM
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18. Lieberman has the best defense policy
of all the candidates. His position hasn't flipped like some others who initially backed Bush when they thought that's where the votes would be.

Lieberman would have made a fine V.P. He'll make a good president, or at least would have. Although I'll vote for Lieberman, I pledge to vote to support the winner of the primary in the general election.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:01 PM
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19. wouldn't change much of anything
he already votes and talks like one.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:20 PM
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20. He's jewish
Didn't you get the memo? Jews, blacks,hispanics, asians etc. have no place in the Repuke party. He may agree with their policies, but he could never be a "made man" (to borrow a term from the movie Goodfellas) in the Repukes because of his lineage. He knows that.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:26 PM
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22. Tell That to Arlen Specter.
Tell That to Arlen Specter who's a Jewish Republican.
And to Clarence Thomas who's a Black Republican.
And to David Dryer & Lindsey Graham who are a homosexual Republicans.
And to Phyllis Schaffley who is a Republican woman.

And...
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:33 PM
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25. The difference being....
-Specter isn't as public about his religous beliefs as Joe is-- not by a long shot.

-Thomas, well let's just say everone has a crazy uncle. Some people have crazy uncles named Tom.

-Dryer and Graham are not "out" publicly or else they would be kicked to the perverbial curb.

-Phyliss Shaffley is irrelevant.

-I haven't read JC Watts' latest book, but from talking to a few freeps who picked it up with glee and ended up not liking it tell me that JC felt he was never fully embraced by the Repukes. To hear Watts question, even remotely question, race regarding the Repuke party speaks volumes.



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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:23 PM
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21. Lieberman Won't Bolt.
But I fully expect him not to be able to take potshots at whoever the Democratic Nominee is. It is simply his petty, jealous nature. If was completely comfortable attacking Al Gore, and if he's been comfortable trashing Dean, Gephardt, Kerry, Clark, then why would anyone think he would refrain from hamming it up for the cameras and attacking our Nominee next summer. Expect it.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:27 PM
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23. Lieberman won't bolf, but Joe Biden should!
He and Feinstein love the PATRIOT Act so much, that they should join the GOP so that they join John Ashcroft's prayer meetings.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:27 PM
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24. No but,
Democrats will have an opening for sellout senator once Zell Miller retires. Maybe Lieberman has his resume ready.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:59 PM
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27. Another day, another silly Lieberman thread
Lieberman will not bolt to the Republican party.

No way.

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zubeneshamali Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:06 PM
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28. You have hit the nail with the hammer
It's absurd to think that Lieberman would abandon his party, as if he was another turncoat like Jeffords did when he bolted. :thumbsup:

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LightTheMatch Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:16 PM
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29. NO!
sheesh! enough of this silliness.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:24 PM
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30. Lieberman is friends with Al Gore...
Holy Joe is essentially a decent guy and a good DEM, we just disagree with him on a couple of issues- no way he will switch...
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:41 PM
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31. Of the over 300 elected Republicans at the federal level
there are literally zero with his record on the enviroment, civil rights, gay rights, women's rights including abortion, and opposing Bush's appointees. Even if you take out opposition to Bush appointees he is still more liberal than any Republican at the federal level. He opposed the tax cuts (both) while Jeffords voted for at least the first one. It is beyond absurd to call Lieberman a Republican.
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