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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:41 PM
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Yet another disgusting comment @ Xmas
My cousin and her husband are moving to Baton Rouge, so naturally, the subject of Katrina came up.

He (the husband) said "It's good, now we can rebuild the ninth ward the way it should've been all along, only the worst parts of town got hit"

I said "How can that be good? Thousands of people lost their lives and everything they own. It's basically ethnic clensing what you're talking about doing."

His response "Only 1,100 people died, and the death toll keeps dropping as they find out people were just missing."

I said "But thousands more are still missing."

Him "They're not missing, they're just displaced."

I then asked "So, tell me how this is a good thing again?"

Him "I'm not saying it's good that people lost everything and *some* died. What's good is - do you know what the murder rate was? 7,500 a year. Do you know what it is after katrina? 2. There have been TWO murders since Katrina - now we can finally clean that area up and invest in the land and make it the resort town it should've been."

I glared in disgust, and shook my head - then there was distraction and the topic was dropped. Later I overheard him telling my dad that he thinks he pissed me off - then they patted each other on the back about how there will be a silver lining to all this (the rebuiling of NOLA - without crime) and how the displaced people can find homes elsewhere and FEMA will help by giving them nice trailors to live in.

I refused to open my mouth again. It's not pretty when I'm drinking and I get started at family gatherings - it ends up being 20+ rethugs screaming at me, and my mother trying to pull me away. (I'm the *ONLY* reformed republican in the group).

What a disgusting racist piece of shit.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:43 PM
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1. 7500 murders a year???????????
Where?

That is so outrageous I don't even have to look it up to know it's complete bullshit.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:47 PM
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3. I don't even think they have 7500 murders in the whole south...
in a year! More so 7500 idiots a month who reach voting age (I mean, conservatives of course)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:24 PM
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17. Well if NY has around 500, then this would be 15 times that many
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:47 PM
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4. FYI, it was less than one a day but very close to one a day
which is awful but, wow.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:51 PM
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7. Yeah... 265 is 'close' to 365 ... only 100 off.
:eyes:
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:56 PM
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10. I believe murders were up in '05 pre-Katrina
265 murders a year in an area with population of Orleans Parish (480k + or -) is a lot. I believe it works out to just more than .7 murders a day. And it topped 400 at least once in the 90's.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:50 PM
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6. 265 in 2004
Never let a falsified statistic get in the way of a right-winger. :eyes:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:32 PM
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18. Lol and it was 274 in 02...what an asshat!
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:45 PM
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2. He tried to give
a generic answer - 7,500 murders a year in a "20-some mile radius around NOLA" - I knew it was bullshit but didn't have the numbers to challenge it.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:47 PM
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5. Here are all the crime statistics for NOLA-(important to have a source):
Edited on Sun Dec-25-05 03:56 PM by beam me up scottie
New Orleans murders in 2004: 264

http://neworleans.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm

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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:52 PM
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8. The horrible ninth ward he's talking about
is an area where the majority of homes are owned by the occupants, not rented by them. It is an area of lower middle class, working class, and working poor. It has the best work ethic in town: ninth warders are the people who make hour long commutes on public transit to work in people's homes while they raise their own families. Anyone who would make the sort of comments you describe is beneath contempt and way, way too chickenshit to ever come into Orleans to see the "progress" he celebrates.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:54 PM
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9. wish him a year of peace and happiness
and hustle your cousin out of there for her own good!
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:57 PM
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11. Next year come to my house
We only had one republican and he didn't dare open his mouth. The family here are VERY vocal when it comes to being liberal and proud of it.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:58 PM
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12. your cousins are pulling yr leg
there was a terrible terrible gang war going on in new orleans before katrina but no way it was 7,500 murders a year -- it was barely 1 per day and this w. things like offing the 7 yr old to prevent her from testifying

the best part of town, lakeview, the tax base, is utterly destroyed, so i can assume your cousins are NOT relocating to the red stick from new orleans but from somewhere in la-la land or else they are just teasing you relentlessly if they think you'll believe only the 9th ward destroyed

everyone would like to see a NOLA w/out crime, wouldn't you, but you can't let red meat bait you like this, they are laughing their ass off they got a reaction

sometimes you gotta laugh or you gotta cry, their way of obtaining humor is sick, but what do you do

they prob. are racist shits, but it sounds like they also know how to push yr buttons w. it

ignore shitheads, don't feed the trolls, you know the drill

i will tell you a secret abt cousins -- you don't have to socialize w. them if you don't want, they are not yr mom


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:11 PM
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16. Racists, huh?
They're gonna love it when NOLA turns into Los Angeles. Because, I recall, weren't Mexicans brought in to work below minimum wage once George gave the corporations permission to pay less?

Ask the genius how much fun it will be when everyone speaks Spanish? He hasn't even thought of the implications of displacing NOLA's working class professionals.

How is New Orleans going to be a resort town when the black population that made it famous is replaced by the same Hispanics we have all over the rest of America. New Orleans was unique among American cities. Now, it's going to look and sound like any other mall.
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 05:27 PM
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21. ya but
I agree with the part about not having to socialize, but the rest is, excuse me, BS. I admire the OP especially the restraint, I'm afraid Someone would have needed a shower to clean off the spittle I'd have been all up in their face.This sort of SH*t has to be confronted and loudly.I'm surprised that the offender didn't end up with someones thumbs buried in his eyes up to the trapezoid bone.
I'd probably gift the offender in this case with a small after xmas present his very own white sheet robe and conical hat.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:59 PM
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13. @$#%&*?!
Insane.

"Only" 1,100? What the fuck is wrong with him?

:wow:

:dunce:

Idiot.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:00 PM
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14. it's a leg pull
we cannot expect wingnuts to have a highly evolved or sophisticated sense of humor
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:03 PM
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15. Unfortunately -
It was not a leg pull.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 05:48 PM
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23. good lord
i don't want to say your cousins must have a really low IQ but if they were really serious and not just screwing w. you they are shockingly w/out brain
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:43 PM
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19. thanks for the reminder
I quit going to family events many years ago. Now they are all dead and gone. I miss them yes, but I don't miss the arguments. Sad that it has to come to this.

They have no clue, no heart, no soul. Sad at best.

Get the hell away from there ASAP is my advice to you.

:kick:

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 05:02 PM
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20. Good Lord
that would be over 20 a day.

Somehow I think not.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 05:47 PM
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22. not even close
good lord, we were tearing hair because it looked like it was closing in on one murder a day, bringing us back to the glory days of the reagan/bush crack-dealing era

there has never been 20 murders a day in orleans

i'm not sure there has been 20 murders a day in detroit, a city many times the population!
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:52 AM
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24. too bad
You didn't have a good comeback like, "We're talking aboutg New Orleans, not Baghdad right"

-smak-
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CatFelyne Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 02:46 AM
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25. Re: disgusting comment
Hmmm...Let's see, I've been here in Baton Rouge at grad school since before the hurricanes, and I think there may be a small comfort in that they are moving there. We now have a huge increase in population due to the influx of evacuees, by some sources up to 50% increase. And you know, the majority that I've personally talked to are staying in Baton Rouge permanently. That also includes many businesses that have relocated.

Point I'm trying to make is that by moving to Baton Rouge, your cousin is surrounding himself with those people he is so vocal in despising. The moment anything even close to this comes out his mouth around most people here, well the reaction by locals will be umm....unpleasant to say the least.

Best wishes to you and yours this holiday :-)
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:43 AM
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26. Welcome to DU WahooJunkie


And I sympathize with you if those are the asinine attitudes you have to put up with. Rest assured though, here you are among friends. :pals:
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