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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:27 AM
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I just saw a real Christian on c-span...James Winkler...
Did anybody else see him? He kicked butt on the right-wing radio jock he was on with. He was awsome. Here is the website http://www.umc-gbcs.org/site/pp.asp?c=fsJNK0PKJrH&b=849409
He said the budget cuts that hurt the poor was, get this, IMMORAL! YAY! Finally some GOOD Christians willing to take a stand. He even said 15 Christians got arrested in front of the capital for protesting the budget cuts. I hadn't heard about that. I just e-mailed him to tell him how happy he made me. Maybe there is hope after all.
Merry Christmas to all the GOOD Christians at DU and in this world.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:30 AM
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1. The Best Christian I know Of
Or at least the person who lives like a real christian is the Dali Lama.

Think about it.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:40 AM
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3. My ol mom had questions about a period of Jesus' life
which no Sunday School teacher, minister, priest of theologian could answer. She finally came to the conclusion that Jesus had spent that time in the east, studying ;)

She encouraged us to study as many faiths and paths as we could. She made sure to keep up with what we were listening to so she could be on guard for any cult dangers. She told me to listen to teachers from other disciplines and compare the teachings. Some concepts, she insisted, will be common in almost all spiritual teachings. 'There, will be the kernnels of truth! Look for those. Focus on those. Understand those things which are common to the many paths.'

She did a lot wrong, but Mom got that bit of parenting oh-so right. Thanks, Mom.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:41 AM
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11. He actually reminds me of Santa Claus
I saw an interview he had with Barbara Walters and He was so jolly and up lifting. He is an absolutely wonderful man of the highest order of beings. To him there is no heaven and hell only a steady progression to Nirvana.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:35 AM
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2. I didn't see it but I heard it
Wife had it on in the other room and I heard a lot of it. It got me thinking that the problem is that real christians have allowed the term to be highjacked by a lot of charlatans with slick expensive suits and giant pompadours, prancing around on stage and scaring the hell out of the yahoos. Real Christians have been too passive in asserting their beliefs and it's a pleasure to hear one like Winkler stand up for wht he believes in.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:44 AM
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4. The problem for 'real' christians
is that christianity isn't something you talk about, it is something you do.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:53 AM
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6. This guy was calling the budget cuts to the poor immoral
He said the budget is a moral document. I really like that idea. He also said he was against the Iraq war before it started.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:03 AM
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9. Amen!
And the teachings are the teachings are the teachings-what I mean is that all spiritual paths basically say the same thing; love your neighbors as yourself.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:51 AM
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5. He made that radio jock look really stupid.....
He was good at shooting down their stupid talking points. I hope he gets more TV time.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:56 AM
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7. Do all Methodist churches share these beliefs? They sound wonderful. nt
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:00 AM
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8. I have yet to hear ONE televangelist/radio preacher mention the
Beatitudes. The electronic preachers spend far to much time on 'sin' and the ramifications of such, than on the radical approaches to social ills that Jesus spoke of. They seem to have overlooked the notion that hypocrisy is a far greater danger to humanity than is sex.

The electronic preachers are nothing more than money making machines; raking in cash from people who seem they feel they can 'buy themselves into heaven'. For every Crystal Cathedral, for every eye appealing TV set, hundreds, if not thousands, could be given a hand up, a meal, a blanket when it is cold, a kind word and an ear to hear what problems lie within.

Those that do such things do it quietly. They come from every faith, as well as those with no faith at all. They move within the 'under-society'
that they wish to see dissolved; they see a problem, and rather than pontificate at how it is the 'individuals fault' that circumstances are as they are...they hold out a hand of hope and friendship. Those that work silently with no fanfare on the problems of society, regardless of religious/nonreligious background are the true saints of humanity.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:54 AM
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12. The RW preachers have reduced Christianity to a set of rules about sex,
because they know that harping on sex all the time is the way to get people's interest and burrow into their psychological fears and feelings of inadequacy.
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SkiGuy Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:35 AM
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10. I like that Isaiah 10 quote he just gave!
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:59 AM
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13. the religious man across the table from Winkler was an insane bully


he was rude, in your face, with his insane demands. 'where in the Constitution and Bible does it say we should pay for anybody's heat in the winter' he demanded of Winkler over and over again. he thought the govt. shouldn't help anybody with anything. that the churches should do the helping.

what a nasty acting man he was. and Winkler told him so as the segment ended. good on Winkler.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 12:57 PM
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14. "I was naked and you clothed me", etc. Matthew 25?
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