So, if Bush would make same decision knowing what he knows now,

[cantstandbush]

then faulty intelligence is a moot issue. Am I the only one who gets this?

[tuvor]

1. Not anymore. K/R

Thanks.

[spindrifter]

2. Nope!

What we all need to come to grips with is that we live in an irrational world, governed by a delusional chimp.

[DELUSIONAL]

3. He's a rich frat boy --

he doesn't care what the world thinks.

Probably Rove took this to a focus group.

bushie WANTS the fact that he lied about "intelligence" to be a moot issue.

The media whores have their marching orders --

[Montauk6]

4. No, it sunk in loud and clear when I first heard it.

I just hope all the liberal talk stations add this to their audio montages which include the famous mission-accomplished and I-don't-think-about-Bin-Laden soundbite.

But the real ballsy question to Bush would have been "Suppose PNAC did not support an invasion of Iraq, Mr. President (sic), would you have still ordered the invasion?"

[giant_robot]

5. If he knew then what he knows now...

...he would never be able to sell the war to the american people without lying or misrepresenting the evidence, which he probably did anyway.

[upi402]

6. 2+2=bushit, good deductive reasoning O/P!

It's something we all knew, but it didn't hit me until your post;

HE ACTUALLY, FINALLY... SAID IT!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast:

[cantstandbush]

7. I am really puzzeled as to why the Dems didn't jump all over this.

The media is dead in this country and so is the two-party system. We need a people's party with courage as well as compassion and a toughness to the corporate Dem and Rethug pigs on 24/7.

[karynnj]

12. Kerry did when asked on Anderson Cooper

Heidi: Senator Kerry, you believe that the Bush Administration hyped and exaggerated the intelligence leading up to the war. Today the president talked about the faulty intelligence. Let's go ahead and listen to a bit of that speech today. (showing excerpt of Bush speech about wrong intelligence) What do you think of his comments?

Kerry: Well, I'm glad that he's finally, after several years acknowledging what many of us have been saying. But the real issue is not just whether or not the intelligence was wrong,it's why intelligence that they knew was wrong, was used in order to exaggerate the situation. That is still unacknowledged and unresolved

(This is from a transcript typed and posted on the john Kerry Group)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=273x58971#59001

[kentuck]

8. Excellent!

And absolutely true! If Bush would do the same thing now, knowing that the intelligence is bad, what does that say? Would he still lie about WMDs and nuclear materials knowing they did not have them? For what reason would he decide to invade Iraq?

[cantstandbush]

9. The answer is obviously yes, he would lie again and he was hell bent

on invading Iraq and shamelessly used the cover of 9/11 to do it.

Cindy Sheehan and her active supporters should be all over this statement with protest signs.

[kentuck]

10. Somebody should ask him the question :

Mr Bush, knowing now that there were no nuclear materials from Niger, knowing now there were no WMDs or nuclear threat, knowing now that Saddam was not a threat to US or his neighbors, knowing now that you could save tens of thousands of lives, would you still invade Iraq?

[Liberal In Texas]

11. He would make the same dicision, but have virtually no support and not be

able to do it.

The ends justify the means, in other words.

[mindwalker_i]

13. The conclusion

is obvious. WMD were never the reason we went to war, links to al Quada were never the issue or showing them to be false claims would make a difference in the decision to go to war. This brings up the rather obvious question of why we did go to war. There has been plenty of speculation on this.

The conclusion that I hope everybody in the armed forces comes to is that while the president's decision might not change, theirs should. As a democracy, the people should have at least some insight into why the government makes decisions and I am of he opinion that the reasons to go to war definitely fall in that category. With the reasons given to us all shown to be completely wrong and also shown to not be the real reasons, it is morally imperative that the people don't follow the administration unless and until this is cleared up. This goes especially for soldiers who are killing based on the decisions of the administration.

-mwalker

[cantstandbush]

16. Not only shown to be wrong but immaterial to the loss of 2100 US soldiers.

Why the hell people aren't in the cold streets after that statement by Bush is really astonishing. It means that most Americans don't give a damn about anything as long as it doesn't interfere with their creature comforts. I feel like riding in my wheelchair right through the streets of Washington DC with a huge sign that says, "Impeach the bastard!"

[BuyingThyme]

14. Moot for Bush, but only because the intel wasn't faulty.

(He needs it to be moot.)

[flordehinojos]

15. not only that. what kind of responsibility is he accepting?

he is still blaming the thing on faulty intelligence. he hasn't had the cojones to come out and say, Dear Stupid People of America and the World, I lied to You All Because I am Bush and I can!

[Loonman]

17. God told Bush to attack Iraq

The only half-assed intelligence he cared about was the kind to fool the American people.

[Toots]

18. What he is saying is he will act upon any rumor with American lives

He pretty much said he could not wait around to make sure the facts were correct. He is going to act when he thinks it's time based on his opinion no matter what the real truth of the matter is. To me this will be admissible evidence in court. What has been done in the name of America is a Crime against humanity, a War Crime...

[kentuck]

19. It is a crime...

But he's the President of the United States and he has been given legitimacy by the Congress to lie, steal, and kill.

[cantstandbush]

20. And still no outcry from the media or the public! Un-freaking-believable!

[cantstandbush]

21. I just want to keep this pumped until I can start a movement of protest

about this outrageous statement that the media has ignored almost completely.