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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:40 AM
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Propaganda email from Gen. Abizaid being passed around by Military folks
My family, includes some retired high ranking Republicans from the Reagan and Bush Administration and some high ranking military folks. They send me regularly the propaganda that is getting pushed on them. This one is an email from a General Shoomaker that passes on a speech from General Abizaid who is heading up the war effort in Iraq. (Don't worry, its "Unclassified". :) (That's because they want the masses seeing the propaganda).

Thought you all might find this interesting...They are all certainly working hard to try to convince themselves, aren't they? They are even so bold as to make a reference to Nazism and Communism.

It's laden with statements such as "The ideology of Al Qaida is out there and it has not taken hold in any country in the Middle East. We need to make sure that it does not and
we are doing that, but it will be a long problem with a long commitment."

I'd love it if any DUers find factual inaccuracies in this that I can counter to this email.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________


Caveats: FOUO

CSA Sends:

This is as clear as it can be stated - please get these words out to all of the men and women in your organizations. I encourage you to personally carry this message to the American People. As Soldiers, we have the most credible voices in America. We need to lead the way.

Thanks for your leadership and for all you have given. Cindy and I send our very best wishes to each of you and your families as we serve together during another Christmas Season in the Long War.

With Warmest Regards

GEN Schoomaker
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All: Notes from a student at the Naval War College on GEN Abizaid's recent speech:
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General Abizaid (Commander, U. S. Central Command whose responsibilities include Iraq and Afghanistan) spoke to the Naval War College last week. The audience comprised primarily War College students who are mid-grade/senior military officers. The majority of these officers have served in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, so there was a real understanding of the dynamics of the region... BS would not sell to this audience.

Here is a short summary of General Abizaid's comments, from contemporaneous notes:

He is amazed as he goes around the country and testifies before the Congress how many of our countrymen do not know or understand what we are doing or how we are doing. There are very few members of Congress who have ever worn the uniform (of our Armed Forces). He said that the questions he gets from some in Congress convince him that they have the idea that we are about
to pushed out of Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no relation between this and the reality on the ground.

As he goes around the region and talks to troops and junior officers he is very impressed by their morale and their achievements. They are confident that they are capable of defeating the enemy. You will never see a headline in this country about a school opening or a power station being built and coming on line, or a community doing well. Only the negative things will get coverage in the media. He told the mid-grade/senior officers to go to their local Lions Clubs when they go home and tell the people what they are doing. If they don't get the word out, the American people will not know what is really happening.

The insurgency is in four of 18 provinces in Iraq, not all 18. You do not hear about the 14 provinces where there is no insurgency and where things are going well. The insurgency in Afghanistan is primarily in Kandahar province (home of the Taliban) and in the mountain region on the Pakistani border. The rest of the country is doing well. Iraq now has over 200,000 soldiers/police under arms and growing. They are starting to eclipse the US/coalition forces. Their casualty rate is more than double that of the US. There are more than 70,000 soldiers under the moderate government in Afghanistan and growing.

He predicted that the insurgencies in the four Sunni provinces in northern/central Iraq and in Southwestern Afghanistan will be there for the foreseeable future, but they will be stabilized and become small enough so the moderate governments will be able to keep them under control.
2006 will be a transition year in Iraq and that will see the Iraqi forces take much more of the mission from the US forces. This is necessary to bring stability to Iraq. We need to be fewer in numbers and less in the midst of the people for the moderate Iraqi government to succeed.
Our primary enemy is not the insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is alQaida and their ideology. We are at a period now that is similar to the 1920s where Communism and Nazism had not taken hold in Russia and Germany. The ideology of Al Qaida is out there and it has not taken hold in any country in the Middle East. We need to make sure that it does not and
we are doing that, but it will be a long problem with a long commitment.

He said that we are focused on the things that we (Americans) have done wrong, like Abu Ghraib, and not talking about this enemy. We need to talk about this enemy. al Qaida is all over the world. Their goal is to get the US out of the region and come to power in the Islamic countries of the region. From there, their goal is to establish a Caliphate (under a single Islamic ruler) that goes from the Atlantic in North Africa to Indonesia in the Pacific. Fifty years after this happens, their goal is to rule the rest of the world.

Since Desert Storm in 1991, US forces have not lost any combat
engagement in the region at the platoon-level or above. al Qaida has no beliefs that they can defeat us militarily. They see our center of gravity as being the will of the American People. That is influenced by the media and they are playing to that. They don't need to win any battles. Their plan is to keep the casualties in front of the American people in the media for long enough that we become convinced that we cannot win and leave the region. This would be tragic for our country.

The battle against al Qaida will not be primarily military. It will be political, economic, and ideological. It will require the international community to fight too. We must not let alQaida get hold in any country. It will result in our worst nightmare. Picture life in Afghanistan
under the Taliban, that is what Al Qaida's ideology has as a goal.

If you look at the geography (of al Qaida), there is no place to put a military solution. They are networked and they are all over the world. They are a virtual organization connected by the Internet. They use it to proselytize, recruit, raise money, educate and organize. They have many pieces that we must focus on: the propaganda battle in the media, safe houses, front companies, sympathetic members of legitimate governments, human capital, fighters and leaders, technical expertise, weapons suppliers, ideologically sympathetic non-government organizations (charities), financers, smugglers, and facilitators. A lot of their money comes from drugs.

We are winning but we have got to maintain constant pressure over time with the international community and across the US government agencies. No one is afraid that we can't defeat the enemy. Our troops have the confidence,the courage, and the competence. We need the will of the American people to be sustained for the long haul.

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:46 AM
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1. What a pantload
He's connecting Al Queda and the Iraqi and Afghan insurgencies while trying to act like he's not. And I love the part about how Al Queda knows they can't defeat the U.S. militarily. Keen deduction there, Dick Tracy. That's why they're terrorists. Duh.

Oh but he's right about how the terrorist networks operate over there. Kinda sounds like what John Kerry said in that New York Times Magazine article when he said we needed to treat it like a law enforcement issue. But he got excoriated for it.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:52 AM
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2. Bwaaahaahaa!
This paragraph from the above propoganda piece made me laugh - all they can do is use scare tactics and continue to tie Iraq to terrorism.

"He said that we are focused on the things that we (Americans) have done wrong, like Abu Ghraib, and not talking about this enemy. We need to talk about this enemy. al Qaida is all over the world. Their goal is to get the US out of the region and come to power in the Islamic countries of the region. From there, their goal is to establish a Caliphate (under a single Islamic ruler) that goes from the Atlantic in North Africa to Indonesia in the Pacific. Fifty years after this happens, their goal is to rule the rest of the world."


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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:03 PM
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4. Scary thing is that this propaganda piece is what they are encouraging the
Uniformed Officers to pass around to supposedly "educate" folks.

They must really have little respect for the soldiers and American people if they think that they can have them believe this crap. I believe the vast majority of Americans and certainly our soldiers on the ground there must realize what a load of crap this is.

Fear tactics, misinformation, tieing terrorism, tieing in why need to "stay" there is only to justify this unjustifiable war.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:58 AM
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3. Brian Lamb built the first hour of Washington Journal on this e-mail
this morning. Asked for people who had served in Iraq to call in with good news stories.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:08 PM
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6. So, what are those good news stories? Seriously...
Did we bring any power plants up today? Did some schools that had been previously bombed get re-built and opened up today? Did no women or children die today on the way to the market or school?

I'm just curious what "good news" there is...and can they honestly say that the lives of our US soldiers is worth it? Can they say that the budget cuts here in the US that are hurting our citizens are worth it to fund this war and "mission" to stop the spread of Al Qaida? (Oops, wait, what percentage is it really that they say the makeup of the insurgency is of Al Qaida?)

Are we being successful? What is success again? (That we kill more of them and stop them from taking over the world? What are the measurements of success?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:08 PM
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7. Did anyone call in who was legitimate?
I'm guessing there's not a lot of "good news" stories (and stories is what they'd be) coming out of Iraq right now.
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:03 PM
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5. 2nd line....
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 12:05 PM by LoKnLoD
As Soldiers, we have the most credible voices in America.


Colin Powell...anyone? :sarcasm:

Oh and props to them for rebuilding the fucking schools and such that we bombed in the first place.

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