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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:59 PM Original message |
John Kerry, it is not about winning. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kerry said we can only succeed politically, not militarily. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Something that America cannot achieve; there is no winning |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. POLITICAL achievement, not military war. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. blm, I undrestand the distinction you are making. However, |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Where does Kerry say force them, lie to them or bribe them? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Where did I say that Kerry said or proposed that? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. But your the title of your thread says Kerry. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. The real issue has always been the IWR, as far as I am concerned. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Answer this: If IWR is to blame then Bush is NOT to blame, right? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. In the lead up to that vote, * harped on the theme that Saddam |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Blame IWR and Bush is off the hook. It's not Bush failing to implement |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. This was a response to your previous post |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. * and the Congress both had alot to do with starting the war, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. OK |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. And that is why Kerry's plan is different than Bush's and based on earnest |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. exactly |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Then you heard it wrong. He stressed POLITICAL SUCCESS and specified |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Well I just heard him answering questions |
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1620rock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well said. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. skidmore you said EXACTLY what was on my mind |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. Where does Kerry say he wants to stay and fight a war? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Please read what I have said carefully. I have given my |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'll leave it up to others |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Well, that's a sure loser for Dems at the ballot box. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. Here was my take, esp after hearing Rush talk about backpedalling |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Good counterspin, yes. But the stain of this war on the |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. I will admit that the one thing wrong with the Kerry plan is that |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Absolutely. |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. stop overreacting, please |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Good post. n/t |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I disagree strongly. The constitution gives the power of war to |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Well, if you haven't noticed |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm advocating that the people get their government under |
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jenndar (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I really like the concept you articulated here. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. damn, you are smart. i am going to listen to you more often |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Nice! |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. No noms yet? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Thank you for your support. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
31. The elephant in the room |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Thank you, sister. Absolutely right on target. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No one cared about 'bringing Democracy' to the Iraqi people before |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. More precisely, no one cared about it until they couldn't continue |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well, exactly! You were more precise than I was, the results being the |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. do you mean GEORGE LAKOFF, IT IS NOT ABOUT THE FRAMING? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Give ME a break. Where do any of the Dems who |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
44. Victory is not impossible but the real enemy must be exposed. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. here is the plan |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. What about the U.S. companies that are there making money? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 07:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Exactly what is the "seriousness of our situation." Much of the |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:03 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Exactly as you say. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
48. I don't blame Kerry but he knew Iraq was not a threat and either agreed |
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