Biden's running for president. What's your opinion of him?

[yurbud]

Poll question: Biden's running for president. What's your opinion of him?

[Rowdyboy]

1. He's not among my top 20 favorites but I would reluctantly vote for him if

he's the nominee

[FreedomAngel82]

40. Same here

And also depending on who his VP would be too. I wonder who it would be. I know on the "Daily Show" he said he would like John McCain. First of all I'm pretty sure McCain still wants to be president so if he had the choice to be the presidential nominee of the republican party or Joe Biden's VP he'd go to the republican presidential nominee in a flash! And second of all I don't trust McCain. Believe it or not I trust Biden more than I ever would McCain. I read earlier this month or late last month that McCain met with Falwell. As long as Biden doesn't go down that route than I can support him. I've never heard him talk about religion. (Oh and Biden is kinda cute and seems to have a nice personality but he's way too old for me)

[Rowdyboy]

43. I forgot about that remark about McCain as vp. I would likely refuse to

vote for any ticket with McCain on it. I'm a Democrat, and I expect my party to nominate Democrats. If they start nominating Republicans, I'll rethink my 33 year party identification.

[Johnyawl]

48. I agree, Rowdyboy...

...I was looking for the "I'll hold my nose and reluctantly vote for the asshole" option.

No way in hell I'll vote for a repug, either directly or by abstention.

[LSparkle]

2. He has to explain that bankruptcy bill vote ... and ATONE for it first

before I'll consider supporting him.

[yurbud]

7. he could make up for it regulating credit card interest and tying to prime

or let everyone in the country slap him.

[LSparkle]

LOL! Either one works for me!

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. If Biden wasn't so full of himself

and entrenched in maintaining the status quo I would consider it? In the meantime this country needs some major changes and I doubt Biden is the man for the job.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

4. Don't know jack shit about Biden, really.

What's he for?

[Debi]

25. His response...."What do you got?"

If it means he'll get some press, elbow rubbing with heavy hitters and an invite to the White House he'll be for neutering the wild Jack-a-lope!

[leftstreet]

5. Impossible to package. Looks like a waterbed salesman.

LOL - no offense to waterbed salesmen.

[deadmessengers]

6. Not in the primaries

I couldn't support him in the primaries, no way, no how. However, if he were nominated I would support him simply because I'd support any Democrat in the general election.

[yurbud]

10. every time he makes noises like this, I send him a fax telling him he's an

embarassment.

[Gato Moteado]

8. ain't got a chance

with guys like wes clark in there, biden ain't got a snowball's chance in hell.

besides, haven't we learned yet that to win in this rigged electoral system, both democratic candidates have to be from the south....especially the guy at the top of the ticket.

[Catherine Vincent]

9. LOL! What is he doing in that picture?

I don't know if I could trust him. Doesn't Gannon have something on him?

[yurbud]

14. Yep--he's got pics of right after the hair plugs were put in

[yurbud]

19. He does a mean Bela Lugosi imitation

[LSparkle]

21. LOL! (see my reply below -- I was thinking the same thing)

[LSparkle]

20. "I put a spell on you ... "

[FreedomAngel82]

41. For all we know it could be a bluff

I'm still wondering about that myself. :shrug:

[cornermouse]

11. No thank you.

[Double T]

12. Sometimes he acts like a republican, sometimes he don't

[yurbud]

15. which way do you think he will go when it matters most?

[Double T]

26. Within your question lies the problem with Joe Biden.....

therefore, back to my original post

[mattclearing]

13. Biden Sucks Ass!

[Spinzonner]

16. Who's going to 'write' his speeches this time ?

[LSK]

17. its official? are you series?

[bvar22]

18. Running another "centrist" Anti-LABOR candidate

will complete the destruction the Democratic Party.

[Debi]

22. Joe Biden isn't running for President

He's running for running for President so he can get his mug on all the Sunday morning tv shows and feel important.

Anyone want to start a pool on when he'll drop out of the race THIS cycle?

[tularetom]

23. He's worthless as tits on a boar hog

but I'd vote for him in the general election over any repukelican I can think of.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. His vote on the Bankruptcy Bill made me lose ALL respect for the man.

Shame, shame, shame on him for that vote. He'll never win the nomination. He's a Bush ass kisser. He's supported this DISASTROUS ILLEGAL INVASION of Iraq from day one and now he wants MY support? Sorry dude. You have to be a DEMOCRAT to get my vote.

[saracat]

27. MY opinion exactly!

[Talismom]

37. Me three! and when I saw that Robert Byrd had joined him, I felt like the

selling of the nation was almost complete and I might as well just give up.

[Bryan]

28. Good caps, bad plugs

The man is a plagiarist and a de facto lobbyist for the credit-card industry. The smarmy, lascivious grin he wore on his puss as he patronized Anita Hill during the Thomas confirmation hearings is burned into my memory. He would be a disaster as our nominee.

I'm not worried about his chances, though; we have the deepest bench of strong potential candidates in my memory. If Biden insists on running, Clark/Edwards/Obama/NAME OF YOUR FAVORITE HERE will make him look like a Liebermanesque also-ran.

[Debi]

29. So....no JOEmentum? So sad n/t

[MoonRiver]

30. Talk about the ultimate flip flopper!

The Repukes would have a hay day eating him alive. :thumbsdown:

[shenmue]

31. Why is he trying to do a Martian mind-control trick on the woman?

The claw! The claw!

Aaaaaaaaaaagggghhhh!

[spanone]

32. Biden is a lifer politician. He gives me the creeps. His hair is scary.

his ego won't allow him to show his bald head. bad implants. he used to do the 'comb-over'.

[leftofthedial]

33. better than bush

but he represents the international financial corporations, not us.

[NNadir]

34. I can't stand him, and he won't be the nominee, but I will vote for the

nominee whoever he or she is.

35. He is not progressive

just for example - his stance on healthcare is just to put restraints on HMOs.

""""Sen. Biden believes that families and their doctors should make medical decisions, not insurance companies. That is why he has taken on HMOs to prevent them from limiting needed treatment options or prescriptions. He has also supported stopping hospitals and banks from profiting on personal information. Medical records should be kept private between doctors and patients, not sold to salesman and marketers.""""

I like his smile though, and watched him a lot when I was younger. He and Kennedy were the bulldogs of the Senate, getting tough on persons up for confirmation, like Rehnquist.

[trof]

36. My opinion: Slick.

[helderheid]

38. 2 words: Russ Feingold

http://russforpresident.com/

[FreedomAngel82]

39. You missed the "I'm not sure" option

I get weird feelings with him. Isn't he a PNACer? One minute he's on one side and the other minute he's back on ours. :shrug: He seems like an okay person and all that but I'm just fishy. :shrug: I personally am rooting for Feingold, Warner, Kerry and/or Gore if he decides to run. Right now my dream ticket is Warner/Feingold.

[NorthELiberal]

42. Biden is a candidate that can actually win.........

He's tough, knows his foreign policy.........

[Bluebear]

45. ...knows all the CEO's of MBNA

Know thanks!

[yurbud]

47. yep, he can win corporate donors, he's tough on people who work for a

living, and he knows how to do the kind of foreign policy his corporate donors like.

[Pithy Cherub]

50. .... a big carnival stuffed elephant.

:puke:

Welcome to DU!

[bvar22]

52. Joe?....Joe?

Is that you, Joe?
Been meaning to speak to you about those plugs....not cool, Joe.

[alfredo]

44. I have real mixed feelings about him.

He has some baggage. I remember when he was busted for "borrowing" some lines from another speech. To be fair, I don't know if he wrote the speech. He also had that brain tumor soon after that. So there could be health questions that could hurt his chances.

On the up side, he is a fine public speaker. I have found myself agreeing with him on some issues. He is a snappy dresser.

Snowball chance in hell.

[KoKo]

46. I would leave the Country before I'd work or vote for that Preening POS!

I saw him on C-Span where he was preening, adjusting his socks, taking off his wrist watch to calibrate it all the while smiling stroking his hair and flashing his "tooth whitened" pearlies at his audience at the American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Relations Institute or whatever the hell Right Wing "Think Tank" Group CNN was featuring Biden as a panelist.

His whole body language made me sick. It's all about "HIM"...."HIM" and his son Beau Biden who just announced a run for Delaware Attorney General (I think it was). Anyway...he's got two sons and he figures "hell or high water" he's going to create a "BIDEN DYNASTY!"

:puke: again. He had his chance to support Democratic Grassroots and at every turn he went "DLC/New Democrat" Who needs his sorry hair transplants. I sure the hell will get out of here thinking about him serving after the Chimp!

[GreenArrow]

49. He's a good argument for term limits

.

[MrSlayer]

51. Isn't he tied to the PNAC in some way?

I thought I read on here that he signed one of the PNAC documents. I can't seem to find anything about it on Google though. Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

[LittleClarkie]

55. Connection tenuous at best

Not even sure, I'm told, if that letter originated with the PNAC.

At any rate, I believe it was a condolence letter to Russia after that terrorist attack where so many children died.

[MrSlayer]

56. Thanks.

I've often heard it said as solid fact.

[AntiCoup2K4]

57. It IS a solid fact.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm

And note that Biden isn't the only so-called "Democrat" who signed this one.

As far as speculations about the origin of the letter, it is on the PNAC website, and known PNAC founders are among the signators. They claim it as their letter, and I see no reason to argue otherwise.

And even if a document was on a NON-PNAC website which had a document with the same set of signators, it would still be inexcuseable. Democrats should not be cooperating with these traitors, period.

[LittleClarkie]

61. Do you know who all those people are?

Here is a link to what looks like the original letter, with the titles next to the names of each signatory. You get a better sense of who signed the letter, and where they came from.

http://www.freedomhouse.org/pdf_docs/russiastatement.pdf

I found it more informative than the one on the PNAC site.

Do you imagine those former diplomats, foreign ministers and the like are also PNAC sympathizers?

[MrSlayer]

62. And there it is.

Thanks.

[LittleClarkie]

58. Here's the opening paragraph from the letter

As citizens of the Euro-Atlantic community of democracies, we wish to express our sympathy and solidarity with the people of the Russian Federation in their struggle against terrorism. The mass murderers who seized School No. 1 in Beslan committed a heinous act of terrorism for which there can be no rationale or excuse. While other mass murderers have killed children and unarmed civilians, the calculated targeting of so many innocent children at school is an unprecedented act of barbarism that violates the values and norms of our community and which all civilized nations must condemn.

It is solid fact that Biden's name is on the letter. It is also solid fact that it is on the PNAC site. I've had one person dispute that the letter started with the PNAC. But even if it did, if this is the only letter he signed of theirs, I'm having trouble working up a good lather about it. It's a sympathy letter. Now if he'd signed on to their manifesto or something, I'd be creeped out. But no.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm

My problems with Biden stem more from his glory-hound tendancies. It is said that the most dangerous place in Washington is between Joe Biden and a camera. I don't doubt it.

[LittleClarkie]

59. Here's a different link to the letter, with the signatories identified

http://www.freedomhouse.org/pdf_docs/russiastatement.pdf

I see more than a few dignitaries and such. Hmm. Now I'm curious. I guess I'll have to keep digging.

[MrSlayer]

63. Yeah but the rest of it is hardly sympathetic.

Is his line that he accidentally signed it without knowing the contents? Thinking that it was indeed a sympathy letter?

[Qanisqineq]

53. I think he sounds like the Smuckers man

from the commercials. When I listen to him I think, "with a name like Smuckers, it has to be good." But that's just me.

[Bouncy Ball]

54. When I read the title of this thread, I let out a huge, gusty sigh.

I don't know what to say except, my God, can't we have a true progressive for once?

They don't have to have fucking dredlocks and wear tie-dye and shit.

Just BE a progressive. Be a liberal--the politics of kindness as Garrison Keillor would say.

Hell let's run Garrison Keillor. He's compassionate, smart, liberal, got fire in his belly and he tells one hell of a story.

[6000eliot]

60. Pro war=no vote

At least from me.