Stupid, drunken frat boys outside torturing a wild animal

[BuelahWitch]

I was roused out of sleep by the sounds of hooting and glass breaking.
I looked out my window and saw about 7 guys after some poor little possum. The way our yard is set up the thing couldn't get away from them. It ran along a wall and they kept throwing things at it. Bottles and big rocks. I think they killed it.
I screamed at them to leave it alone but of course the fuckers didn't listen. Then they got into their expensive white car with a sunroof and drove off before I could call the cops on them for disturbing the peace.
Maybe people don't care about possums, but it could just as easily have been a cat. It doesn't make me feel any better to see it.
Has anyone else experience anything like this and what did you do about it, if anything?
The little fuckers need to be in Iraq, NOW. Let them try and kill something that's big enough to hit them back...

[NYC Liberal]

1. That's what our current pResident was doing back in his fratboy

days (well not that they've really ended). I don't know what could bring people to do that, no matter how cruel they might be. Assholes.

[Lengsel]

2. Good God

Man, I'm so angry tonight. I'm just so frustrated and pissed off about everything.

I just can't understand why people have to be such dumb pricks. Being drunk is not an excuse. I've never tortured anyone or anything. What is wrong with these people? I felt guilty for stepping on a roach.

Keep in mind I am NOT IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM an animal lover. But this crap just doesn't make sense.

[BuelahWitch]

3. No, they are just destructive

I think I know who is responsible for the rash of broken glass in our parking lot now too, including my cracked windshield
And I still care more about the animal than my windshield, even if it is wild. it's still a living thing...

[gardenista]

4. What is frightening is that those little pricks will probably be in

positions of power someday.

Too bad you couldn't get the license plate number.

[BuelahWitch]

7. I could only see the top of the car from my window

Sorry, no way was I going out there.

But I'll be looking for them from now on.

[gardenista]

13. Sorry you had to witness that. It's just disturbing.

I hope the possum got away.

May be worth calling the cops tomorrow just to get a report on file, in case this was part of a night-long series of assholish activity.

[BuelahWitch]

14. I think they killed him on the wall

One of them said that he thinks he "knocked it out" but I'm pretty sure it was dead. I'll check tomorrow when I go take out my trash.

And thank you for your sympathy.

[AlienGirl]

19. Opossums are actually very sturdy

I have seen an opossum survive being hit by cars. Their skulls are extremely thick and crush-resistant. I predict if you go look the opossum will be gone, after having "played possum" till the threat was gone.

If he's still there and is injured, he may need help, so you should go check tonight.

Tucker

[driver8]

22. That is a great idea! Please go and check on him, and let us

know if he is ok.

[BuelahWitch]

24. He appears to be gone

I hope you're right.

Still, it was very disturbing to see and it made me physically ill.

[AlienGirl]

30. If he's gone, odds are he's okay

Yeah, it's awful to see stuff like that. :-( I can't give any special advice for what to do about asinine humans, but I know what to do about animals in trouble.

Tucker

[Toots]

60. Opossums have a way of making yu think they are dead

It is called "Playing possum"

[FlemingsGhost]

5. Overcompensation

Poor self esteem, and probably psycho-sexual insecurities.

Pity them. They are not living "satisfying" lives, and the weight of their personal issues will molest them like ... well, like they were a defenseless creature running from drunken frat boys.

Karma is a ruthless bitch, sometimes.

[renate]

32. I know what you mean by "karma's a bitch"

but (and I suspect you share my feelings) I LOVE karma for exactly this reason.

Karma is not vengeful but instructive, not a bitch but a teacher. These frat boys will someday learn what it's like to be defenseless and pursued. And they will thereby learn a little bit more about compassion.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Call 9.11

if you are lucky they will be able to respond, and do soemthing about it, ain't kidding there

[BuelahWitch]

9. They're gone now

I'm going to wait up a bit to see if they come back. The first whoop out of them I'm on the phone to the cops

[frogbison]

8. Turtle in the road

A few years back. There was a box turtle in the road, so I swung my car over to the side as quickly as possible, parked, and ran back to move it. I was almost up to it when a pickup came by and SWERVED to hit it, right in front of me. I was so upset!

That says volumes about their souls.

[BuelahWitch]

11. See I don't understand how they can do that

I almost hit a fox once on the way home. At least, he ran under my car as I was exiting the interstate. I was sick. I didn't think I hit him, but I wasn't sure.

And no one cares much about wild animals here. I found a baby bunny dying in the yard a few years ago. Called some vets and they said let nature take it's course.

[AlienGirl]

15. Wildlife rehabbers near you

http://wildliferehabber.com/contacts.php?country=US&state=KS&stateln=Kansas

Lawrence KS
Andrea Yourtee Email (No recent updates)
Wildcare
Active Volunteer
small_mammals large_mammals RVS birds waterfowl raptors
Comments: I volunteer at Wildcare located near Desoto Kansas. I have been a wildlife rehabber since 1994. I am also a registered veterinary technicianand work at Gentle Care Animal Hospital in Lawrence Ks.

Everyone ought to know where to find help for wild animals. :-)

Tucker

[BuelahWitch]

17. Thank you!

I will store that link and try and get hold of them tomorrow. If they don't answer then Monday.

I'm also calling the Humane Society in case their next victim is a stray cat. Assholes like this hate cats...

[AlienGirl]

23. How to pick up an opossum

Opossums will hiss and look very fierce, but they actually don't bite very often. The safest way to pick them up is grab around the base of the tail with one hand, drop a towel over the possum's head, and scoop the possum up with your other hand so that your hand is under his neck and his body is along your arm. This gives you pretty good control over his head, and a good grip. The towel will keep him calm.

If the opossum is there, and is injured, put him in a warm, dark box for the night and take him to the rehabber tomorrow. The biggest danger is shock; warmth and darkness minimize that.

Tucker

[Pavulon]

48. Warrants a beating

I went to a small school in NC. Someone threw a bag out the window of a moving car in front of my passengers and me. I stopped because something looked wierd. It was full of kittens. We picked up a few that were not dead.

We followed this person to the grocery store and beat the crap out of them with a golf club, a putter. White trash piece of shit. He got what he deserved. Luckily I was not arrested. Was a stupid thing to do. All of us could have been kicked out of school and the guard. Someone called the police who called an ambulance but no one turned us in. Luck.

Senseless killing is disgusting. Hunting is fine, I grew up hunting.
That person could have taken those cats to animal control 2 minutes down the road.

I can say as an adult gainfully employed I would have chased the turtle killer down and made my point clear.

[BuelahWitch]

53. I'm not so sure I wouldn't have done the same thing

If I were a physically larger person. I was thinking last night I wish I didn't throw so poorly or I would have started chucking books, pots, pans, whatever at the motherfucker.

In any case I'm telling the apartment manager about them today. Don't know if they'll care about the poor animal, but I will say that their aim could miss someday and they could do some serious property damage.
We need them or their friend out of this building.

[Pavulon]

58. I keep a marine spotlight around

At night it will disorient someone and cause night blindness. Not harmful. They cost $30 for a very bright light.

Spotlighting people and letting them know you are calling the police is a non aggressive way to intervene.

Neighbors are a problem because they can mess with your property. Calling the police for noise complaints or when you see people drive off drunk is legal and keeps you car from getting keyed.

[CatBoreal]

63. Had that happen to me once...

...I was riding on a country road and saw a car swerve for what I could see was no reason.

The bastard drove over a painted turtle.

It was bleeding and it's shell was cracked open, but I picked it up, put it in my windbreaker and rode home as fast as I could. My dad and I tried to patch up the shell with duct tape, and I put it in a box with a towel and some lettuce but it was dead the next morning.

I still cry about that to this day.

[Beam Me Up]

10. No they do NOT need to be in Iraq, and neither does anyone else.

Little shits that they are, putting live amo in their hands is not going to make them any smarter or more humane.

[BuelahWitch]

12. They have a wish to kill

Let them be in a position where someone else wants to kill them just as badly.

[Journeyman]

16. And you seem to have a wish that they be dead as well. . .

but they're probably drunk and will awaken tomorrow with a hangover (and a little regret, if they're compassionate people). But will you feel or be different tomorrow morning?

[BuelahWitch]

20. So you care nothing for that poor animal they tortured and killed?

If you want to kill, go at least where you'll get a fair fight. That's what I'm saying.

[Journeyman]

31. Go back to sleep. . .

tomorrow is a better day. . .

[NeoConsSuck]

41. I've been drunk more times than I care to admit..

I've never felt the need to torture or kill an animal.

Don't blame the alcohol.

[LisaL]

74. Oh lordy. If one thing is clear, is that they are not compassionate

people.

[Raksha]

18. They need to be in jail, not in Iraq.

Re >>The little fuckers need to be in Iraq, NOW. Let them try and kill something that's big enough to hit them back...<<

With their sadistic "aptitudes," they'd probably end up as guards at Abu Ghraib or some similar place where the victims CAN'T fight back.

[BuelahWitch]

25. Ok that I can agree with

[Pavulon]

49. Correct

No one wants to be in any unit combat or otherwise with glaring assholes.

I dealt with heavy equipment for the ANG. My concern was being injured by the few morons. The rest of the guys generally found ways to get rid of them or straighten them out.

These guys deserve a beating.

[driver8]

21. I am suddenly sick to my stomach. What a bunch of ignorant, cruel

assholes.

That really pisses me off.

Poor little possum.

[minkyboodle]

26. frat boys are death for animals

I remember while I was a student at LSU one of the dumbass frats had a "barnyard party" and they were actually sued and punished for killing a chicken and breaking a goat's leg while trying to dance with it. Satire aside I feel your pain as you tried to stop the assholes from harming the poor possum and probably the fuckers succeeded in harming it. My only advice I can give to you is to do what I have done with situations like that in my past. Go and seek a local animal rescue/rehabilitation center and volunteer. Do good for those that you can and try to put those who you can't help out of your mind. You can sit and stew all day about the bastards and what the hell goes through their mind when they do these things but really I can tell you from experience its much more productive to get out there and do what you can to help what you can and try to put that awful nights experience out of your mind. I have had a similar experience and I do share your anger.
Scott

[BuelahWitch]

27. Ok, said possum is NOT dead

I'm finally at the point where I think I can go back to bed. And you know really, I don't want to see those kids die in Iraq. But I also don't think they should be allowed to go around hurting innocent animals and destroying property (ie. breaking glass on driveways) without being punished. But no one cares much about the animals, do they?

Thanks for all the info, especially on the wildlife rehabbers!

[AlienGirl]

34. Caring about the animals

Some people do.

Story about an opossum:

It was a week before I delivered my younger son, and I had just been in the hospital with what turned out to be false labor. It was about four in the morning and we were on our way home from the hospital after the contractions failed to turn into anything. In the middle of the road, there was an opossum who had been hit by a car and was badly injured.

My (now ex) husband stopped the car, and I jumped out, towel in hand (I happened to have a towel with me in case my water burst) and dumped about $900 of computer parts out of a box in the trunk so I could use the box. The opossum had some damage to his shoulder and possibly his neck. I toweled him, stuck him in the box, and we sped off to the emergency vet.

When we got there, the wildlife vet was not on duty and the vet tech didn't want to wake him up. The opossum was in obvious pain, so I stood there and threatened to go into labor right in the waiting room unless they called the dang wildlife vet to come treat the possum. Long story short, they relented and called him in.

The opossum lived. :-)

Tucker

[driver8]

38. That is a great story! Good for you...saving that possum's life.

I wish there were more people like you in the world!!

[AlienGirl]

77. I have an inability to pass up animals in need

I've done wildlife rehab. :-)

Tucker

[longship]

28. Love your avatar

Kukla, from the creative mind of Burr Tillstrom.
The Kuklapolitans. I watched them on the tube regularly.

Here's a look back:
Kukla, Fran and Ollie

Thank you for the visit to my childhood.

[BuelahWitch]

29. Thank you!

Check your PM for another KFO link.

[Lithos]

33. The sad truth is

Wife abusers and other violent criminals tend to have a rather high rate of animal abuse at a young age.

L-

[applegrove]

35. Disgusting!

[Crunchy Frog]

36. I saw some horrible things when I was working in wildlife rehab.

One of the worst was a baby crow that some kids had attached firecrackers to and set off. When we first got him, he would scream and tremble whenever anyone came near him, though he eventually became very affectionate and did make a full recovery. I don't know why people shouldn't care about possums. They can feel pain and fear too.

Definitely call the cops whenever you see something like that. In my experience, they very often will intervene. They can at least scare the crap out little shits like that, even when they can't do anything else. Next time you should get their licence number.

Youre right. Those assholes do need to be in Iraq, though on the other hand, I wouldn't really wish that on the Iraqis. These are most likely the sorts of people who are engaging in torture and shooting kids.

[lvx35]

37. Well, think of it in perspective.

I hate to be the PETA guy here, but a few moments of terror at the hands of fratboys isn't very bad at all when you look at the lives of livestock we eat every day. Pigs kept in cells the size of their bodies their entire lifes, feed the flesh of their family members, yada yada. I mean the story makes me sad, but don't lose perspective.

[NMMNG]

39. I used to live in an apartment that backed up to a brook

Behind the brook was the community playground, so there were always kids around. One day I heard a big commotion out back so I looked out the window. Four or five boys were throwing rocks at a large turtle in the brook. They kept yelling "Hit it! Get it! Yeah!" etc. I opened up the window and told them that if they didn't leave that turtle alone, not only would I tell their parents, but I would report them to the police for animal cruelty. They shouted some obscenities at me as they ran away. After they were gone I went out and moved the turtle further downstream so hopefully he could carry on unmolested should they return.

I despise people who are cruel to animals. :mad:

[misanthrope]

40. Unfortunately...

...you hit upon the truth of the matter in your anecdote.

Think those kids learned that behavior from watching adults throw rocks at turtles? Doubt it.

Humans are just naked little monkeys who are really good at only two things: fighting and f#cking.

[Solly Mack]

42. My husband saw his soldier throwing a rock at a rabbit, so my husband

picked up a rock and threw it at his soldier - clipping him good.

The soldier yelped, looked around, saw my husband standing there...asked him "Why?"

My husband told him: "Anything you do to a helpless animal I'm going to do to you"

I love my husband.

I also love opossums.

[xchrom]

43. damn, now i love your husband too!

what a guy.

[Solly Mack]

44. LOL! He came home that evening still livid

from the morning. He dearly hates anyone that harms an animal.

[xchrom]

51. yeah, me too -- i rarely open threads that are about

harm to animals -- i just can't take it.

it's the one thing that gets me where i live.

[BuelahWitch]

55. I love your husband too

Can we clone him?

[G_j]

47. thank you for sharing that

your husband sounds like an awesome guy!
Cruelty is cruelty. IMO, It is only a step from abusing a rabbit to committing crimes against humanity. Just look at Bush.

[Solly Mack]

50. It really is

that aspect bothered my husband as well - if he would do that to a rabbit, what would he do to a person

As for Bush, the only thing I can conclude is his parents didn't care he was torturing animals or they didn't know....somehow I get the feeling they didn't care. Just knowing he did torture animals would have been enough for me to never trust the man - if I didn't know anything else about him.

[G_j]

54. Cruelty Connections

http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/abuse_connection.php

Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.

If you break it down to its bare essentials:
"Abusing an animal is a way for a human to find power/joy/fulfillment through the torture of a victim they know cannot defend itself."

..more..

[mwb970]

45. This seems to be what America is becoming.

A young GWB blows up frogs with firecrackers. An older GWB killed a record number in his Texas death chamber. Dick Cheney advocates torture.

I doubt that the possum's tormentors were liberals. Welcome to the "culture of life".

[durablend]

68. Undoubtedly the car had a

"*/Cheney04" bumpersticker SOMEWHERE on it.

What's even more sickening is that this was probably just practice for when they go after the REAL targets (us)

[BuelahWitch]

70. I have no doubt they'd probably do the same to a homeless person

These types of people don't care. They're bored, looking for "fun."
I was up till almost 4 in the morning because I was so livid, and I have to work today.

[ComerPerro]

46. That's what I think whenever I see fratboy idiots

Hey, dumbass! Drive your daddy's SUV over to the nearest recruiting center and get your ass to Iraq!

[BlueIris]

61. Same here.

Grrrr.

[Lefty48197]

52. The GOP will want to recruit them as candidates

after all, they're the party of God and family.

[CoffeeCat]

56. Our possum story...

I store staples and dry foods in the shelves in the garage. One night, I heard--from inside the house--something scratching and clawing in the garage.

I opened the door and found a bag of Goldfish Crackers torn up. Half of them were gone. My husband insisted that a mouse did it. I told him, only if it was a 10-pound mouse! This bag was clawed open.

The next night, I went out to the garage. Sitting in the middle of a garage, on a rake was a VERY large possum. He was white, with fluffy fur and little beady eyes. Absolutely adorable. He waddled over to the other side of the garage and hid under a shelf.

We called our girls (ages 3,4) out to the garage. They could see the possum under the shelf and they fell in love with him. He was so cute! They named him "Cupcake." We called animal control. No one came for two days. We left more Goldfish in the garage, and a bowl of water. We opened up the garage door, and I saw him waddle out during the day.

My children read about possums on the Internet, and we printed out pictures. One of my children asked for one thing that Christmas, a stuffed possum. She named him "Squeaky" and she still sleeps with him every night.

This incident happened two years ago, but it was something we will always remember.


I'm sorry that some of the "Cupcakes" of the world experience such senseless violence. It's incredibly sad.

I just hope that my husband and I---by teaching our children to love and respect animals--are raising people who will never, ever do what those malicious frat boys did.

[BuelahWitch]

62. That is a sweet story

I'm glad that you were kind to that poor animal. :hi:

[shrike]

64. Poor possums

One of those animals motorists seem to love to hit.

[AlienGirl]

76. Another possum story

At my house in Olympia, I had rats. One night I saw what I thought was one of my rats running loose in the living room. I got up to catch whomever it was and put them back in the cage--and saw it was a baby opossum, post-weaning and just starting to be away from his mom.

He lived in the closet for a couple of days. I tried to make friends with him, and discovered he liked PB&J sandwiches. Eventually I moved him back outside. He was a really cute little guy. :-)

Tucker

[BreweryYardRat]

57. Good Lord...

Jeez, that's awful. Those bastards need a good beating.

[lonestarnot]

59. Torture of any type to anything enrages me!

[proud2BlibKansan]

65. In Lawrence?

damn

I am with you - they need to take that aggressive attitude and go to Iraq.

[BuelahWitch]

66. Yep in Lawrence

"Crack alley" area of town. I don't know why they don't have an apartment on the posh west side...

[Straight Shooter]

71. Because on the posh west side they put on their presentable face

But when they come to a place where they can operate anonymously, the mask falls off and you see what vicious despicable cretins they really are.

Socrates said a society is judged by how it treats its animals. I think Socrates would have respected you immensely, classicfilmfan.

[BuelahWitch]

75. Every time I see an animal in trouble I see my pets

I don't care what kind of animal it is, wild or domestic. I have been so lucky to have had so many loving pets over the years.

It's my belief we were put here to protect the animals, not torture and kill them.

[UDenver20]

67. What makes you think they're in a Fraternity? (seriously)

Or were they just obnoxious little rich kids?

[BuelahWitch]

69. At least one of them was

He had on a sweater with some kind of weird lettering on it. Def. obnoxious, rich little fuckers though.

[0007]

72. I walk early every morning. On this morning it was still on the dark side

when I saw this young cat crossing the street, then all of a sudden a car came around the corner and made every effort to run over the cat.

It was the paperboy making his morning deliveries. I let the paper know I was extremely unhappy.

[BuelahWitch]

73. Good for you!

Why do they get such joy out of killing something so much smaller?

[entanglement]

78. Frat boys are the worst

Rich, smug, arrogant punks who think the world exists only for their amusement; I willing to bet my life that they were College Republicans