Bush Will Pull The Troops Out of Iraq Next Year

[Yavin4]

In October 2006, the majority of U.S. troops will be pulled out of Iraq right before the mid-term elections. Everything this WH does is politically motivated. They will let our soldiers die in Iraq for another 10 months before they pull them out in order to get maximum political hype out of it.

[bbinacan]

1. No doubt. n/t

[Zinfandel]

2. This is an absolute.He has to save his majority in Houses or his ass will

be up for all sorts of crimes....

[MercutioATC]

3. I'm not buying it.

He could have released more oil from the strategic reserve to keep pump prices lower. He didn't.

He could have planted WMD in Iraq. He didn't (because, I believe, the idiot expected to find them there despite whet the inspectors told him).

He could have made any number of smart POLITICAL moves that he hasn't...and that scares the hell out of me.

Bush isn't some diabolical mastermind, he's a deluded moron who really BELIEVES he's doing the right thing.


As long as he's in the driver's seat (yeah, I know that's debatable) our soldiers aren't coming home.

[Yavin4]

6. The BIG Difference Between All of That And Now Is..

his party's ass is on the line. If he loses the Congress, the subpoenas will start flying. Everyone in that WH will be giving testimony before Congress, and that could lead to impeachment of Cheney, Bush, or both.

If troops are still dying in Iraq before next year's election, the Republicans are dead, and anti-Gay marriage amendments won't save them.

[Zinfandel]

14. Exactly correct! Bush is fucked if he doesn't keep a republican majority

in the House & Senate...Doesn't mean he won't increase troop in Iraq strength after the election.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. Exactly

And they'll find some way to keep some troops there (or militias like that group in New Orleans, BlackWater or something like that) so they can get the oil.

[soliddemocrat]

8. So what'd i miss?

Hello Everyone, It has been a long time since i last logged onto DU and all i can say is that President Bush is a complete asshole there's no way in hell that he's going to take the troops out of Iraq just for credibility of an election. There's just no way he would do that he's too dumb to do that and i believe any democrat in this nation would know that. For President Bush there is no time table for the War in Iraq it's just a constant slaughter of troops and terrorists and iraqi civilians day in and day out. The day Bush pulls the troops out of Iraq is the day Bush grows a brain but to be honest he doesn't have a brain anyways so it doesn't really matter. You see Bush the Son of Satan and during his first term in office Bush took a trip to hell and he had his brain removed by Satan and then Satan threw it in the fire and then Satan said "Go my son go torture and kill those hundreds of thousands of people in the world and walk among them." And Bush just said "Ughhhhhhhh yes master" :). And that's how we got the dumbest President on the face of the planet. So anyways i'll let you go, i'm going to see what else is going on on the boards. I hope to hear from you soon,good luck in all you do.

[MercutioATC]

12. Was there something resembling a point hiding somewhere in there?

:shrug:

[niallmac]

4. I think rather the announcement will be made.

If he literally pulled out all the troops Iraq would devolve into anarchy faster than an Intelligent Design journal club.

[cliss]

17. I agree. If Bush pulls out all the troops,

Iraq will implode on itself. Right now, U.S. troops are a convenient target. We're the "bad guy". Recall, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Once we leave, then they will start to turn on each other (the Sunnis versus the Shi'Ites).

And what the hell will he do then? After the mid-term elections, then will he cart them all back to restore order? What a god-damned mess he's created. No real good way to get out of this.

[Buns_of_Fire]

26. I think that's more likely. "Announcements" are easy to retract.

"Hey, we PLANNED to withdraw troops, but we just got new information from sources-which-must-not-be-named saying that blah blah blah, so it is with great regret and disappointment that we must temporarily delay our planned departure from Iraq until the situation stabilizes."

It's so easy for those lyin' sacks o' shit...

[splat@14]

5. I agree that he probably will under pressure from his keepers and those

in congress. However, I can hear his tantrum over not completing his war due to his sick perception of his legacy. He still thinks he's a "war time president" as opposed to an incompetent boob that must be controlled in order to salvage the neocon effort. Lives are a secondary concern at best.

[goclark]

10. I think he will pull out after the Iraqi's get to cast their votes

He doesn't give a blink how he leaves that country.
Watch him, the troops will be coming home within 4 months.

Then he will say that "that was my plan in the beginning but we could not endanger the lives of the troops by telling the exact date."

With the pressure he has now, he can not continue much longer with his little bully game.

He is toast

[FreedomAngel82]

22. That could be it too

I still think that they'll be ready for 2006 midterms since going in was timed for 2002 so they could run on it. They'll have their "votes" and than Bush will say the new Iraqi president is wanting us to stay even though 80% of the country wants us gone. Than in the spring of 2006 he'll have some fake "Mission Accomplished part two" and they'll use "see? we spread democracy!" line for 2006 and 2008.

[Selatius]

7. Do the people who PROFIT off the damn WAR WANT IT?

What if the corporatists in charge today have a "I've got my piece of the cake now; go fuck yourself" mentality as far as the rest of the GOP goes? If anything, the GOP was simply a vehicle for these bastards to gain power, and once the vehicle is no longer needed, they bail out and let the vehicle slam into the wall and retire to some place with no extradition treaty with the US. If their game is greed--and I think it is--then I feel they will keep the troops in for as long as possible and forget about the GOP's prospects. They're going to retire rich regardless of the GOP surviving or not. May as well milk the war for all the money its worth.

Nevermind a ruined GOP, the flag drapped coffins returning home from Iraq, and the tens of thousands of dead civilians. The simple fact of the matter is money was made. That is what counts to these people. That's good for their bottom line. Who cares if Cheney, Rumsfeld, or Bush go down? They're all fucking puppets. The real masters are the ones who never held any political office. They instead funded the GOP's rise and these servants of theirs into positions of power.

The more bombs are made and used, the more money goes into their pockets.

[soliddemocrat]

11. That sounds like republicanism

Hello Again, That sounds like republicanism talking using the war for money? That's just totally dead wrong, we're not fighting this war for oil or for money. Those troops are supposed to be with their families not out fighting this damn war. I mean if God intended us to be in this war to begin with he would have told us so but is that what God said? Hell no it was never in his plans to invade another country. Right now the entire world hates President Bush and the United States. We live in the crappiest country on the face of the planet because we have some fucker in office who doesn't have his head screwed on right. And i can't stand living day after day with the realization that we have this stupid republican who spends every day talking shit to us acting like he knows everything when in reality he is the threat to humanity. I can't stand him he is the son of satan. He is from the depths of hell and God have mercy on us all that he will get out of office and Satan will strike Bush down and burn him in hell. I hope to hear from you soon,good luck in all you do.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Uh okay

I believe in God but God has nothing to do with what we do. That's called freewill. And republicansim? No hon. This is reality. They are using this war for greed and money. Read the PNAC plans. It's all for oil and look at the Carlyle group.

[dargondogon]

9. Or he'll just tell Fox that he has already done it, and all the other

channels will parrot it.

[soliddemocrat]

13. He's never going to pull those troops out

Bush is never going to pull those troops out, The chances of Bush pulling the troops out are as slim as the chances of winning the lottery: you lose all the time. I can't stand the fact that we have a President with no brain and no sense of rationalization who hacked his way into office like a baby stealing toys from a little girl and just saying "No they're mine they're all mine." I bet his first words when he was a baby were "We fight terror dada" Bush's Mom: Ohhhhhhhh look George he said his first words Senior Bush: Let me see Baby Bush: We fight terror dada. Senior Bush: awww isn't that cute lets give him a small toy gun. Baby Bush: Bang bang bang bang hehehehe :) i fight terror. My God how brain damaged can you get? Very brain damaged obviously it's no wonder why he was never in the service. So anyways i'll let you go. I hope to hear from you soon,good luck in all you do.

[Zinfandel]

16. The only fucking way Bush won't reduce the troops is if they know...

they (republicans) can steal the House & Senate races, that they know, will fall into the democrats hands, through their electronic voting machines!!!

Bush can also just increase troop strength with any excuse what so ever...right after the election, right after Bush secures both houses via the election in republican hands.

What he can't do is afford to do, by absolutely no means is lose his republican majorities, then he's fucked big time...

As long as there's oil in Iraq, there will always be some US troops there on the US bases that have just been built

[FreedomAngel82]

24. Than you don't know politics

[Lerkfish]

15. i hope so, but doubt it

the neocon agenda REQUIRES permanent bases in iraq. the people BEHIND the people will not allow numbnuts to mess with that. they'll replace bush before they withdraw. follow the money, folks

[soliddemocrat]

18. Whatever neocon means

Whatever the hell neocon means i didn't see that word in the dictionary, not that i bothered to look because as somebody with above average intelligence i know for a fact it's not in there :). Democrats creating new words in the world of liberalism,another thing coming into the left wing party. If we're going to start creating words start writing the dictionary and putting some meanings with them.

[Lerkfish]

27. um...do a little research, maybe?

you're way behind here.

look in the research forum under neocon.

welcome to DU, not a great way to start by mistakenly charging the "left wing party" with creating words the right wing came up with.

I think you've made a wrong turn somewheres.

[maqbroom]

19. Difficult maneuver

Well, he might want to, but he's got to hang onto his hardcore somehow, and they wouldn't like to see the army come home, it seems to me.

[newyawker99]

25. Hi maqbroom!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Remember that

going into Iraq was timed perfectly for the 2002 midterms so no doubt in my mind Bush will have some fake "Mission Accomplished part two" so they can use it for 2006 and 2008.