HELP finding quote of * saying he had secret sources he couldn't share

[Roland99]

I remember a couple of years ago when the Propagandist and his cabal of warmongering chickenhawks claimed, at one point, that they had intelligence which made them, essentially, 100% certain Saddam had WMDs but that they couldn't share that info with the public.

Does anyone have links to those statements??

TIA!

[ThoughtCriminal]

1. I think it was Cheney who said that

See if that helps the search.

[bigbrother05]

2. See this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5340848&mesg_id=5340848

[Roland99]

4. Yeah...I saw the Cheney quote in there. Seems I remember something else

attributed to * or Rice maybe and I seem to recall the phrase "100% certainty" as part of it.

[bleever]

3. Rummy said there was "bullet-proof" evidence of

ties between Saddam and al-Qaeda, then later backtracked, saying he had believed the CIA's evidence (and what evidence was he supposedly talking about?).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3717024.stm

[watrwefitinfor]

5. What about Blair and the secret intelligence?

Does anyone remember that? How Blair seemed to remain unconvinced, but Bushco kept saying when he saw the evidence he had Blair would change his mind? I can't remember if someone went to England, but I rather think Blair came over here and was shown the goods, and immediately changed his mind and became *'s poodle.

I don't have any dates or links, but I remember this happened.
I'm going to go do a search, too.

Wat

[Roland99]

6. I know it's out there. I'm searching other boards where I've posted, too

but it's proving elusive.

[watrwefitinfor]

7. Is this helpful?

Why the CIA thinks Bush is wrong
From the Sunday Herald, 13 October 2002 issue:

http://www.sundayherald.com/print28384

...

What Bush could not have guessed was that his claims that Iraq was intent on attacking the USA had already began to unravel. The denouement started a few days before, on Thursday, October 3, when Senator Bob Graham, chair of the Senate intelligence committee, metaphorically donned his hob-nailed boots and began delivering some well-aimed kicks to the head of George Tenet, the director of the CIA. The CIA, Graham said, were monkeying with democracy. The agency was not telling his committee what they needed to know about the Iraqi regime. Tenet was damaging the ability of Congress to assess the need for military action.

...snip...

Later on October 3, after Graham met with Tenet, his mood had changed -- Graham seemed to be cooler, calmer. He said the meeting had been frank and candid. What Graham wanted was a flavour of the classified National Intelligence Estimates, prepared by the National Intelligence Council, whose analysts report directly to Tenet. On Monday, October 7, around the time Bush was in Ohio cheerleading for war , Graham received just what he had been looking for -- it came in the shape of a letter from the CIA director. It made astonishing reading. Two days later, on Wednesday, October 9, the Senate intelligence committee voted to make the full text of Tenet's letter public.


Tenet's letter said he was declassifying selected material to help the Senate's deliberations on whether or not to support the president over attacking Iraq. 'Baghdad, for now, appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or CBW (chemical and biological weapons) against the United States,' the declassified material read.

...snip...

Lee Hamilton, the former chairman of the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee, added pointedly: 'It's an overwhelming temptation to manipulate intelligence to serve policy and, to some extent, I think that's what's happening here with Iraq.'


Much more, and a really great read so many years later - but I don't know if it has to do with what you were searching for.

Wat

[Roland99]

8. Good article and it unravels some of Sen. Kyl's claims in my other thread

but it's not what I was looking for.


Thanks, though. ;)


I'm trying to compile a lot of stuff for my blog:
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/12/everyone-had-the-same-information-eh-then-how-does-the-propagandist-explain-this/

It would help out my last statement about the "secret sources" if I could cite the quote.

[watrwefitinfor]

10. How about this? It's a Cheney quote

that seems to hint at what you are talking about. Seems I'm all around it, but can't quite pin it down.

Why Trust George W. Bush?
Posted by David Corn, September 13, 2002.

http://www.alternet.org/story/14102/

In a recent interview, Vice President Dick Cheney uttered a troubling remark. He stated that when it comes time for the administration to convince Congress of the need to go to war, the White House will not tell Congress all it knows: "There are certain pieces of information that are highly classified and need to remain highly classified."

But longstanding procedures exist that govern the sharing of classified material with Congress. Yes, Congress does leak, as do the White House and the Pentagon. Which is why in rare occasions an administration is allowed to limit the number of need-to-know members of Congress to a bipartisan group of the four ranking members of the House and Senate (sometimes the four ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees are also trusted). For Cheney to say the White House might possess information relevant to initiating a war and not inform any member of Congress is a bold power-grab. To do so might indeed risk a leak. But the Constitution grants the power to declare war to Congress and does not state, "In certain instances, the President may say, 'I know more than Congress, but I'm not telling, and, partly based on this information, I am taking the nation to war.'" Cheney seemed to be readying the line often used by national security officials: If you only knew what we know.

Wat

[Roland99]

11. Yeah...that rings some bells.

thanks.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

9. Strange! I was just recalling that myself and did a Google search

but couldn't find the quote. I too believe that it was a statement by Cheney that he had access to or was privy to intelligence that he could not share, etc. I'm sure someone will find it and post it.