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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:35 PM
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This is not a "leak"; this is treason...
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 01:40 PM by TruthIsAll
The myth about the Plame "leak" is that it is no different than those of insiders blowing the whistle on malfeasance - bribes, payoffs, political retribution, dirty tricks.

So when Bush and his apologists say that the leaker(s) may never be found, because reporters will always protect their sources, he once again obfuscates the real issue.

This is NOT a leak; this IS a treasonable offense. Here the lives of CIA operatives have been placed in danger. Here the WMD investigations have been compromised. Here the leak is NOT to expose malfeasance; here the leak IS the malfeasance.

That is a distinction which many fail to make. The outing of Wilson's wife as a CIA operative is a crime which has been committed to perpetuate the treasonous Bush lies used to justify the Iraq War. It is slandering Mr. Wilson who dared expose the lie. It is meant to intimidate others who might also tell the truth about Iraq, 9/11 or WMD - or anything else.

No, this is not just a leak to expose WH internal friction or to telegraph changes in domestic or foreign policy.

This is not even a leak. This is treason.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:39 PM
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1. Well put,
you are exactly correct.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:44 PM
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2. Control the terms and the terminology of the debate: it's a felony, and,
if anyone insists on using the word leak, it's a "felonious leak",
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:46 PM
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3. excellent point
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 04:12 PM
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22. Duly noted. Watch for a change in my sig line.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:48 PM
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4. Yes, but the truth doesn't matter any more. Only the spin matters.
The issue itself is irrelevant -- it can always be obfuscated. The only thing that matters is controlling the public presentation. As long as you control the media, you control the presentation.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:38 PM
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11. Well, Democrats/Liberals should control the spin. And the spin should be
that treason matters.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:54 PM
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5. I have defended Novak for reporting this
Based on the principle that it's the government's duty to keep their secrets and the press's duty to reveal them. But Novak's backpeddled (he says it wasn't a deliberate leak but just something that came up in conversation) so I say throw him to the wolves. He has become part of the chorus of BFEE apologists who are minimalizing this baldfaced act of political intimidation. They are all traitors after-the-fact for doing so.
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ByeDick Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:07 PM
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14. Novak can report and keep quiet, but NOTHING else

If Novak really thought he was just writing a "news" article (which is doubtful), he may have a First Amendment argument.

But if he is doing ANYTHING OTHER THAN keeping quiet about the identity of his traitor, for the purpose of throwing off any current or possible investigations, he can and must be charged with obstruction (to start with).

This includes half-truths and semantic games.

More here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=521232

Bye Dick
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:02 PM
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6. This is my post on another of your "Traitorgate" threads!
"Sorry! But I say Fuck themedia! It'sTreason! I don't care

who did it!"




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bring_em_home_bush Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:11 PM
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7. ~
O, what a fall was there, my countrymen!
Then I, and you, and all of us fell down,
Whilst bloody treason flourished over us.
William Shakespeare
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:16 PM
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8. I don't believe...
...that Bush is talking about the two WH leakers when he says they'll never be found. I believe he is talking about the "senior administration official" who ratted out the WH leakers to WaPo.

Parse his words:

Q Mr. President, how confident are you the investigation will find the leaker in the CIA case? . . .

THE PRESIDENT: . . . Randy, you tell me, how many sources have you had that's leaked information that you've exposed or have been exposed? Probably none. I mean this town is a -- is a town full of people who like to leak information. And I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official. Now, this is a large administration, and there's a lot of senior officials. I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to know the truth. That's why I've instructed this staff of mine to cooperate fully with the investigators -- full disclosure, everything we know the investigators will find out. I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is -- partially because, in all due respect to your profession, you do a very good job of protecting the leakers. But we'll find out.

Aside from the fact that his first sentence is pure GIBBERISH, note what he says here: "And I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official. Now, this is a large administration, and there's a lot of senior officials."

He's not talking about those who disclosed Valerie Plame's identity to the press. He's talking about the person who told The Post about the leakers.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:17 PM
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9. What has this Fraudministration done that was NOT treason??
Perle and Wolfowitz are agents of a foreign government. The "terrorists" are 25 year business partners of the Bush family. Rummie personally delivered weapons materials to both Iraq and North Korea. Vote tampering in Florida before, during, and after the "election". LIHOP or MIHOP 9-11.

I'd be more surprised to find anyone in the Bush Criminal Empire who wasn't guilty of treason!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:27 PM
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10. Two traitors on the White House payroll...
... plain and simple.

And if they aren't outed, the only way to be sure we get rid of them is even simpler. Oust Bush/Cheney. That way we are sure the traitors no longer draw checks from the country they betrayed.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:43 PM
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12. You're right - it's "Traitor-gate"
I'm not going to refer to the person as the leaker, any more. I'm going to always use the term "traitor" instead.

Thanks for the posting this.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:57 PM
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13. Guess what this is not even on a lot of people's radars, anywhere...
Sad to say. Been talking to someone this weekend who is from a small county about 60 miles from a large metropolitan area. 48,000 population with a small daily paper at that county seat. They have cable access -- and several times a week buy the major metropolitan newspaper...

No idea who Plame or Wilson are, when this started or what it is about really. Interested in my explanation and able to understand how it might totally compromise our intelligence on WMD. The person has been concerned that Bushco will 'plant' WMD in Iraq and was able to see for themselves and mention to me how this outing might blind the people who would actually 'see' that plant occur, thus making a plant of weapons look legitimate.

But my feeling is that if this average, slightly better informed than average person, had to have me 'break' this 'news' to them and explain it ???

There has been nothing about it in that local paper. If every small county in the country is like this ?

That county has LOTS of bankruptcies being filed. More than this person has ever seen. Appears to have a major meth problem in the county with rumors and suspicions that law enforcement people are aiding and abetting it. (Deputy sherrifs whose wives are nurses aides, and with lots of child support to make-- driving Cadillac Escalades and having accidents far from home with lots of cash in their possession)

Oh I am just rambling...
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ByeDick Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:19 PM
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15. Why Small-Town & Big-Town Folks Should Care

The most (nationally) relevant factor in this scandal is that a high-level Bush administration official is HELPING would-be terrorists and or spies.

The Bush official is HELPING nuclear terrorists and other world interests to get nuclear (bomb) materials.

No matter what the motive is, that's the relevant fact of the matter.

Valerie Plame's apparent job was to prevent this activity, and she and her work have been obstructed, tainted, and endangered by a high-level Bush traitor.

More here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=521232

Bye Dick
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:45 AM
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33. Here's something that would help get out the word
Someone here at DU posted this link. http://www.ajr.org/NewscategoriesByState.asp?MediaType=1&Type=StateNews&Cat_id=2&start=1&State=

It's where you can find links to most newspapers in every state. They suggested that we find the email addy for and contact the managing editors or at least find a significant individual close to decision making at each paper to wrtie to. And send them information we think is important.

At the time, it was Greg Palast's article about the Arnold/Enrom connection. Now, perhaps it's time to send them an email about Traitorgate.

What I did was to create a new group of contacts in my Outlook Express. It took me about a 1/2 hour. But now, I can send an email to all those editors with one click. I included every single paper in my group, no matter how small or conservatve the paper.

Btw, I never heard back any complaints from my mail regarding Palast's Arnold dicoveries.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:25 PM
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16. *sigh* Please don't call it treason
To 99% of the population treason is defined as the actual levying of war against the United States, or to swaring loyalty to our enemies, or to giving them aid and comfort. Sadly, very very few people consider these "leaks" to rise to that definition, and will never consider this a treasonous offense.

If you insist on calling it treason, people will simply write you off an an "extremist". Most people in the U.S. aren't paying attention to this right now, so we need to make this palatable and understandable to the average Joe Sixpack as a criminal offense against one of our nations defenders...not as a partisan attack against the White House.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:38 PM
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17. It is Treason
Call a spade a spade. These are criminals that have taken over our government. Without the proper titles for their crimes, the best we can hope for is for them to get their hand slapped, then business as usual.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:51 PM
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19. outing a CIA WMD agent is pretty "comforting" to our enemies
wouldn't you say?

and jeez, the way that Ann Coulter throws the word 'treason' out over any slight disagreement, I'd think that if anything the word has lost its power...
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:55 PM
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20. What would the pubbies be calling it ...
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 03:56 PM by gulliver
... if it weren't the Bush Administration with traitors on the payroll, but the Clinton Administration?

No one expects the leakers to be charged with "treason." Calling it "Traitorgate" is just a way of keeping it in the public eye. And it is arguable that the "traitors" in the White House abetted the enemy.

The Bushies really want this episode to be thought of as a leak for a number of reasons. First, they want people to think that a leak of, say, a Bush-condemning FBI memo by a whistleblower and a leak of a CIA operative's identity are equivalent in some way. It helps the Bushie argument for their gang-like secrecy and avoidance of accountability.

Second, they like the passive-sounding "leak" more than the deliberate dirty trick of "exposing a CIA operative." The Bushies want this to be thought of as a general information management problem rather than what it is, a deliberate, dirty, illegal trick whose perps are still collecting government checks.

And the perps have a boss (Junior) who is not even looking for them.

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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:06 AM
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30. Present and former CIA would call it that. I don't the 99%, either.



Possibly "simple" treason rather than aggravated.

"giving them aid and comfort. "



"I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust
by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most
insidious, of traitors."

--George Herbert Herbert Bush, 04/26/99
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:47 PM
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18. I called C-Span this am and called it treason
Said I was sick of reporters calling it a leak - that the Wilson's and their children had been placed in jeopardy for the rest of their lives and that they would probably have very short lives.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 04:05 PM
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21. So true.
I wonder if the laws we grew up with even apply anymore. We are on the verge, if not completely into, a totalitarian fascist take-over of this country. At this point I doubt that US citizens can do any more than place that proverbial finger in the dam. Our international (former) friends will eventually put a stop to the neocon dream. Whether it be in the form of simply waiting until rightwing imperialist adventurism devastates the US economy; or former true believers turn in disgust against their masters; or, in the extreme case, an international military coalition brings US to our knees, ala Hitler's Nazi Germany. I am afraid that unless the citizens and media wake-up soon we will face the later scenario.
:scared:
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 04:18 PM
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23. It is both a leak and treason
Clearly a leak and certainly treason.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 02:52 AM
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24. We can't let this treason be minimized by Rove and his media lackeys.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:02 AM
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25. Some Idiot went too FAR
"Good sounding" idea was flawed to the Point of Treason.

"Now what!!???"

" Get the masons, Best damn stonewall builders money can buy"

"But its not working??"

"Lets use Denial, dats the best approach, just keep denying"

"Maybe they will go away"
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:05 AM
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26. "Traitorgate" is going to stick to the Chimpadministration and someone's
head will roll.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:09 AM
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27. Prolly some low level guy who falls on the sword.
Maybe Rummy the Dummy. He da guy being used. Would you buy a car from HIM??
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:19 AM
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28. Rummy's too proud to go out like that. He wants to be revered by
American sheeple. Lyin' Scooter Libby will likely take the fall before it's over.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:26 AM
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29. If King George sez Fall, will Rummy do it??
Only if the payoff is enough.

He knows too much and Bush/puppet Masters know it

Maybe Mongo?
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:18 AM
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31. Another take on probable 1st leaker: VP's office
Reports originally said (erroneously, as it turned out) that Wilson was sent to Niger at the behest of the Vice-President's Office. Who would Novak have called first in those days following Wilson's July 6, 2003 Op-Ed in _The NY Times_? The Office of the Vice-President, naturally.

Immediately after his July 6 op-ed in the _New York Times_, Joseph C. Wilson was thought to have been sent to Niger in February of 2002 at the behest of the Vice President (later vigorously denied by Dick Cheney, September 14 th on Meet the Press, see link #1, below). (This misunderstanding may have arisen from a clumsy reading of Wilson's Op-Ed, in which he wrote that he "was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report." and "The vice president's office asked a serious question. I was asked to help formulate the answer." See quotations in next paragraph that indicate mistaken in early July that Wilson was sent directly at behest of Cheney.) Robert Novak, _Chicago Sun Times_ columnist and televison commentator, by his own admission "was curious why a high-ranking official in President Bill Clinton's National Security Council was given this assignment" (link #5). Those are the facts. From those facts, can we deduce who Novak would have called first? The Vice-President's office, of course.

Some proof of misconception in second week of July 2003 that VP sent Wilson: Ray McGovern reflects this misconception in a July 14 open memorandum to Bush: "There is just too much evidence that Ambassador Wilson was sent to Niger at the behest of Vice President Cheney's office, and that Wilson's findings were duly reported not only to that office but to others as well." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4107.htm . As does Will Pitt when he writes on July 11: "Wilson was dispatched in February of 2002 at the behest of Dick Cheney to investigate the veracity of the Niger evidence." http://www.agitprop.org.au/nowar/20030711_pitt_bush_you_are_a_liar.htm . Ian Macpherson writes, similarly, "Now it appears that Wilson was sent to Niger at the behest of none other than Vice President Cheney's department" http://www.netnacs.com/downunder/archive/du-0026.htm . Steve Perry continues the error even at the end of the month: "It was Wilson who traveled to Africa in 2002 at Dick Cheney's behest" http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/sperry/stories/storyReader$517 .

So . . . Novak would have called Cheney or, more likely, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Cheney's Chief-of-Staff (or, perhaps a staff member directly below Scooter). To find out "why a high-ranking official in President Bill Clinton's National Security Council was given this assignment," Novak would have gone to the presumptive "assigner."

How would the conversation have gone (using Scooter Libby as the contact)? They would talked about Wilson's editorial, why the State-of-the-Union Speech referred to Nigerian yellow-cake uranium and why Powell didn't mention it at the UN, and how Cheney had never sent Wilson on any mission. Then Scooter explains, telling Novak that Cheney, the previous winter (Feb. 2002) had asked the CIA to look into the reports of uranium sales to Iraq from Niger and that it was the CIA at the VP's behest who had sent Wilson. Then Scooter lets it drop, "Well, did you know Wilson's wife works for the Company? Let's see . . . yeah, right Valerie Plame. Word is that she was the one who had him sent to Niger." Novak's ears perk up (all he hears is "nepotism," missing the real insinuation: that Wilson put his wife up to having him sent because he had an anti-War agenda or because he was anti-administration and wanted to put the breaks on the early momentum toward the Iraqi war). Novak checks spelling ("P-L-A-M-E"), thanks Scooter, hangs up. Checks second source, etc.

It's important to realize the purpose was to discredit Wilson as a maverick-with-an-agenda, getting his wife to send him on a mission the results of which would undercut Bush's designs on Iraq.

Paul Krugman, as he so often does, gets to the marrow: "both the columnist Robert Novak and Time magazine say that administration officials told them that they believed that Mr. Wilson had been chosen through the influence of his wife, whom they identified as a C.I.A. operative."
( http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism@lists.panix.com/msg47823.html ) The purpose, therefore, was NOT revenge, NOR punishment, but to undercut Wilson's credibility. (To be fair, Krugman later, inexplicability concludes: "So why would they do such a thing? Partly, perhaps, to punish Mr. Wilson, but also to send a message.") IN the July 22 Newsday item (see link in Timeline) Wilson also admits to befuddlement: "They were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising," he said. "There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason," he said. "I can't figure out what it could be."

Given the circumstance of the following summer (2003) when everyone was questioning the existence of WMDs, considering that someone who had investigated one of the claims Bush made in his State-of-the-Union Speech just undercut him in a July 6 NY Times op-ed piece, Scooter's plant was artful and effective, despite Novak's dull-witted interpretation (nepotism). It was clever about crushing anyone (Libby is more circumspect and pragmatic than Rove). The purpose was not primarily to inflict revenge upon Wilson, nor was it necessarily a warning to others who might take similar public stands, but to undercut an opponent who had momentarily risen in their midst. Bloodlessly, swiftly.

I know that if the purpose of the leak was revenge or a warning to others, the political damage to the administration would be worse. Since no one is likely to go to jail since bar for conviction under the operant law is rather high, all we can hope for is political damage. But mistaking the motive may well lead us in the wrong direction and allow the entire story to gradually dissipate in the short-shelf life of public attention. As it is, the administration will have to account for a coordinated attempt (2 leakers) to discredit a man who has ably served five administrations and was even labeled "courageous" by George Walker Bush. Perhaps those charged will tell investigators who else was in on the meetings where the strategy to discredit Wilson was hatched. (It was certainly coordinated and continuous, as attested to by the July 17 and 22 similar stories in Time and Newsweek–see timeline, below) Perhaps not.




TIMELINE:


(More detailed and much fuller timelines, distracting for our purpose, can be found at: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/US/uranium030714_timeline.html and http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=niger_timeline )

ca. 2001

Wilson: "I was invited out to meet with a group of people at the CIA who were interested in this subject. None I knew more than casually. They asked me about my understanding of the uranium business and my familiarity with the people in the Niger government at the time. And they asked, 'what would you do?' We gamed it out--what I would be looking for. Nothing was concluded at that time. I told them if they wanted me to go to Niger I would clear my schedule. Then they got back to me and said, 'yes, we want you to go'" (qtd. in link #2).

2002

February: Joseph C. Wilson is sent to Niger to investigate rumors of sales of yellow-cake uranium to Iraq. His trip lasts eight days: "drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current government officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place" (from NY Times, 6 July 2003, qtd. in http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/cia-gate.htm ).

March 9: "CIA reportedly sends cable that does not name Wilson but says Nigerien officials denied the allegations," according to ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/US/uranium030714_timeline.html

2003

January 28: George W. Bush's State of the Union Address.

June 12: Walter Pincus reports in the _The Washington Post_ that an unnamed retired diplomat had given the CIA a negative report concerning uranium sales from Niger to Iraq. ( http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/Bush-Iraqi-Uranium-Forged12jun03.htm )

July 6: Joseph Wilson publishes his Op-Ed in _The New York Times_ , criticizing the administration for allowing Bush to make the Niger-uranium claim in the State of the Union Address. (Link #4 for the Op-Ed.) Richard Leiby and Walter Pincus write an article discussing Wilson's work in Niger and quoting his unfavorable administration comments: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/135174809_intel06.html

July 13: Robert Novak publishes his column in _The Chicago Sun-Times_ in which Valerie Plame is identified as a CIA agent. Novak writes: "Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me his wife suggested sending Wilson to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him" (qtd. in link #3).

July 17: Time magazine publishes the same basic story, also attributing it to "government officials."

July 22, Newsday also confirms "that Valerie Plame ... works at the agency on weapons of mass destruction issues in an undercover capacity." Link:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/iraq/ny-uscia0722,0,6160519.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

Sept. 14: Dick Cheney on Meet the Press denies knowing Wilson and seemingly goes out of his way to say "I don't know Mr. Wilson. I probably shouldn't judge him. I have no idea wh hired him and it never came..." Russert interposes: "The CIA did." And Cheney responds, "Who in the CIA, I don't know." (Link #3) (Why is Cheney going out of his way to volunteer this information? Wilson seems similarly perplexed; in an interview with Ann Goodman, also in link #3, after Goodman says "He (Cheney) also said that he didn't know who had sent you, raising questions about the whole legitimacy of your mission to Niger," Wilson says, "I heard that. I don't know what the Vice President was trying to get at in that. )

Oct. 1: Robert Novak publishes his column in _The Chicago Sun-Times_ recounting the entire story from his vantage. (Link #5)



* * * * * * Laws * * * * *

1917: Espionage Act (thrice amended since).

1982: The Intelligence Identities and Protection Act

Both are discussed by John Dean at http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030815.html




* * * * * * Links * * * * *


Link #1: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/1555209
Link #2: http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=823
Link #3: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/1555209
Link #4: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm
or http://truthout.org/docs_03/100203B.shtml
Link #5: http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak01.html



* * * * * Bibliographies * * * * *

http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/cia-gate.htm (a bibliog. of articles criticizing the admin.)
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:41 AM
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32. Anyone who protrects Traitors should be prosecuted.
Hard to beleive there are TWO people in our government who have committed TREASON and all the stops are not pulled out to find them.
Patriotic reporters as well as supporters should not allow America to be undermined by Traitors. Patriotic duty is above all a responsibility.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:08 AM
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34. It's the corporate media that keeps this story hidden.
If this were a Dem administration, it would be on 24/7. Hell, impeachment would already be happening!

I'll never forget when Keith Olberman originally left MSGOP and went to ESPN, he said the reason was he was leaving was he was sick and tired of talking about Monica Lewinsky all the time.

So, in other words, he was told to talk about Monica Lewinsky - it wasn't his choice.

Unless the media changes, there will be no change in the madness.
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