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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:08 AM
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Now I know why Eisenhower left his warning
I used to think maybe he knew the Bush people and those involved now. I still don't know for certain because he does leave some strange things (such as with Social Security and their plans). But if you want the reason, I'm sure of now, that he leaves about the military is because he knew about this for a fact that something like this would happen again. How did he know? Google Operation Northwoods. Malloy mentioned this tonight and I haven't heard of this before. When reading about it a lightbulb went off in my head and I knew than why Eisenhower left his warning to America.
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DrDoubleplusgood Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:02 AM
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1. Yeah
Funny chain of coinkydinkjs under Ike and JFK:

Eisenhower warns about the "military-industrial complex"
Kennedy turns doen Op Northwoods
Kennedy gets shot
Vietnam escalaed-who was entrenched with the same interests as the current cabal.

Ike was a repub-do the repubs today think Ike was just fuckin' around about that MIC stuff?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:43 AM
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5. And they also had the plans on the attack of the country
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:43 AM by FreedomAngel82
Staged of course. Maybe this is where the PNACers got the plan(s)?

Link: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html

I still think Vietnam is why Kennedy was killed. While Kennedy was being burried and the funeral Johnson was off shaking hands to continue it. I think he was involved too personally. In the plans they mention hijacking planes and even planned to kill John Glenn.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:28 AM
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2. I'm with you on this 100%
The interests that underpin the M-I complex are largely based upon the huge profits of gearing up for wars and then subsequently fighting them. The US economy is heavily slanted towards the production of military hardware on the domestic front. Other nations are huge exporters of arms; the UK is one of the players in that dirty business I'm ashamed to say.

The third party that is rarely mentioned, however, is the influence of international capital. Just look at how Hitler was financed for a start. Big profits were made in the run up to, and during, WW2. The part played by big business makes for unsettling reading.

Anyone who looks at the history of warfare will come across this theme time and time again: Warfare makes big profits as well as advancing geopolitical aims. The latter are largely predicated upon cornering resources.

It's all about the mutual self interest amongst this unholy triumvirate (wrong word but it will do) of military manufacturing, big money and geopolitical strategy. They all need each other.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:38 AM
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3. Wars, and the chickenhawks who love them
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:38 AM by upi402
Don't forget the greedy, fear-filled, power whores who exploit the susceptible masses with propaganda.

They have the TV, therefore the power.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:41 AM
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4. The Bush Criminal Empire made Ike President.
Chimpy's Nazi bankrolling grandpa, Prescott Bush personally introduced Eisenhower to Nixon, and then Bush and his associates (including some ex Nazis that Nixon got through immigration) took over the Republican party which they control to this day. Though Eisenhower probably rejected their agenda far more than the others (Nixon, Reagan, Ford, and of course Poppy and the Chimp) he was very aware of what they were up to, hence his farewell speech about the military industrial complex.

Operation Northwoods was suggested during the JFK administration (He told them exactly where they could stick it) but I wouldn't be surprised if Ike was aware of similar plans.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:46 AM
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6. Right then, THOSE...
greedy, fear-filled, power whores


-that's her then-
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:47 AM
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7. Oh sure with Ike
I always had this huge feeling that Ike knew the Bush people and now you showed he did. What really got me was when he mentioned Social Security and now what Bush is trying to do to it. Since he was right about everything else I hope he's right that we won't see these people again.
I find Eisenhower's whole warning very interesting and amazing.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:50 AM
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8. And Ike did very little to stand in the way of those people while
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:52 AM by 1932
president.

Among MANY other things, he covertly channeled a billion dollars to the French to help them fight in Vietnam until he took over the fighting for them. Early on, IIRC, he sold US weapons to them.

For a good book on Ike and the military Keynesians Ike didn't get in the way of, read Richard Parker's biography of JK Galbraith.

Incidentally, Ike did nix plans to use nukes in SE Asia, IIRC, because he thought it would encourage China to start a war with the US -- I forget the details. It's in the Parker book.
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